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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:08 PM
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What if Pelosi is named in a suit alleging her complicity in war crimes?
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 06:09 PM by burythehatchet
Couldn't that remove her prerogative to take impeachment off the table?

on edit - I use "suit" in a generic sense, to include judiciary committee action, and so on.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:11 PM
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1. Do you understand why impeachment is off the table?
1) It's an election year
2) they don't have the votes

If we can get through this election, we might have the votes.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:17 PM
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3. If they aren't removed from office soon,
Bush will use the remaining months he has in office to start a war in Iran, pardon all his cronies who are now legally in hot water for criminal acts and make a lot of the fascist things he started permanent by using his executive powers. We may not have a country that will accept the results of this election by then, but a dictatorship.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:05 AM
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16. They wont' be removed from office
even if you could impeach and convict Bush, you'd have President Cheney.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:18 PM
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5. It Would Be Great To Force The Rethugs To Support A Hated President
If they support Bush, they dig their hole deeper. More likely, they'll (finally) figure out that tossing Bush is their best bet to keep from becoming an irrelevant remnant in November - just as happened with Nixon.

It's the Democrats who want to keep Bush in - he's a perpetual Christmas, a new political present under the tree almost every day. But he is a Constitution-trashing war criminal with the ability to launch a nuclear strike, so impeachment is an obligation.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:22 PM
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6. I understand that argument. I'm not a purist but I do firmly believe that these
crimes are a continuation of the many crimes of the past. The criminal enterprise has to be stopped; they are close to assuming complete dictatorial power. Bookmark this post and then look it up on the date that should be inauguration day, and let me know if they leave office.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:28 PM
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8. Last year wasn't an election year.
And we DO have the votes for impeachment. We're lacking in the Senate for conviction.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:30 PM
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9. Thats right ,and besides that
Pelosi knows that team Booo$h/Cheney have done NOTHING WRONG, its them Booo$h haters that keep calling for impeachment!:sarcasm:
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:20 PM
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11. After 7 years of seeing the Constitution
publicly spat on and this regime leaning closer and closer to fascism I don't give a shit if we don't have the votes. If for no other reason than History and Posterity it would be nice to make the attempt, quixotic or even doomed as it may be. Let History say, and our children and grandchildren know, that at least someone attempted to formally stand up to this vile bunch of thugs, even if the attempt failed. And if Bush bombs Iran within days of the election, or there's another big, domestic terror attack we may not "get through this election" as there may not be one.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:40 PM
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14. I'd rather make the attempt when we might actually be able to hold someone accountable.
I don't like what has happened any more than anyone else here or that I know of. But the fact remains that given the tone and attitude set by the Bush administration, we could be at risk of losing not only the White House, but several seats that can and will help to not only shore up public opinion and change the tone, but also give us the necessary votes to at least try. We only gained control in 2006, and with Lieberman being our control seat - it's just not something to risk - just yet that is. After the election, I hope to god we're able to fry the shit out of them all.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:57 PM
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15. 3) because cowards advocate letting criminals walk
NT!

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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:14 PM
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2. she and her 50 million in personal wealth will buy her way out. n/t
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:17 PM
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4. Ah, the Gold 'N Rule.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:23 PM
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7. My husband thinks they have something on her & that's why she's capitulated on draining the swamp.
I think they told her that a very well financed dem will challenge her if she doesn't play nice. Pelosi would rather be second in line at the trough than not in line at all.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 06:52 PM
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10. I think so too.
She actually seems to be visibly sweating every time she tries to explain her reasons and she's not very convincing because I don't think she has even convinced herself.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:20 PM
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12. Then you wake up, sigh, roll over, and go back to sleep.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 10:28 PM
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13. Don't know but there's definitely something wrong with "Drain the Swamp, Nancy."
She isn't why we put Dems back in power in '06.
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