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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-11-08 03:35 PM Original message |
SFRC hearing Thurs 2:30p on Oil, Oligarchs, and Opportunity incl. Z. Brzezinski |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. 5 minute warning bump... |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. Brzezinski speaking first (before opening statements due to 3pm floor vote) |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. Biden ? - how does current Russian govmt view issues of greater access to non-Russian Asian oil |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. discussing that U.S. and E.U. not working together on oil supply issues |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. Lugar - describing his recent trip to central Asia, impressions. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Zb - exec. branch has been less interested and effective than senators, others |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Lugar - who should be taking lead on this? ZB - president, SecOfState, multiple Depts. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
8. Nelson (FL) showing map of Russian control of petrol. in Europe |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. ZB - Russia will be tempted to use energy as political tool. Iran will not always be hostile to us. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Could Putins title change to Czar? ZB - interesting quip of titles and real power. nt |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
11. Lugar - general ? and followup on Iran - need to think for broad future, not separate countries |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. ZB - present character of Iranian regime is transitional - young people want change |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. at one time, had a GOOD relationship with Israel. If we're intelligent about it, will in future |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
14. Biden - what would be consequences of military confrontation with Iran (from U.S. or Israel) |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. ZB - short-term would destabilize our election process - rational national choice more difficult |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Thanks for this -- |
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mtf80123 (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Yes |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. BIG warning there - I was listening not watching but wondering about his facial expression |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Thanks |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
19. heard Nelson, Biden, Lugar, Hagel vote already so expect they'll be back soon - wonder if Kerry |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
20. Before next panel comes up, Hudson Institute is conservative, right? |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
21. Recess over, back from vote, Biden introducing next panel, Lugar stopped by press in elevator |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Biden - big ? = how can we form common western reponse to power of energy exporters |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
23. LF - was asked to provide info on Clinton-Gore admin perspective plus future |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. post-Soviet collapse era - strong collaboration led by Gore, others |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. warnings of geostrategic power potential of Russia and Iran back then; US lacking specialists then |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. lots of detail on US policy on pipelines from Caspian, other regional political strategy |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
24. damn I just tuned it |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. tried to hit some highlights - they usually get video archive up next day |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. This is the first time I have watch on my real player and it says I can record it |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. cool, though ZB's remarks earlier on Iran -> Election were kind of important! nt |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
32. LF - Future: organization behind policy determines success - Clinton-Gore one was good |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. US govmt has lost its focus - our poltical independence depends on our econ. indep. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
34. Baran up now |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. discussing maps, monopolies |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
36. RK - on Russian economic schemes, organized crime |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
37. Biden - how much gas to fill Nabuko (sp?) pipeline to be economically feasible? |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. GE, Bechtel, Shell mentioned as part of consortium in past |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. more discussion of U.S. role in politics of this under Clinton/Gore |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Biden - what should be next steps - if Bush epiphany or in new admin. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. then they say, well, let's just skip to new admin :-) |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Biden - poll of Americans last yr - 70% chose energy > Iraq as security issue |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
43. more difficult now than in 90s - stronger links to even food prices |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. delete |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
45. Biden - what's diff between organized crime vs. Putin etc. leadership in Russia |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
46. Biden - this committee will have little influence on rest of Bush admin |
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