CSpan discussing Dennis' articles of impeachment with Jim McDermott

[malaise]

He supports him. Says he's correct theoretically but not practically. WTF???

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[GreatCaesarsGhost]

1. only because a caller brought it up, but the host did say

they were going to discuss it later in the segment.

[malaise]

2. Another caller raises it

I love it.

[L. Coyote]

3. American people mistake re-electing Bush "apparently"

"The American People made a mistake in 2004 in re-electing Bush, apparently."

How about that "apparently"? Please explain, Mr. McDermott!

Does Congress actually also understand the election was fixed?

[bdamomma]

6. there is such a disconnect between them and us.

no, we have make alot of noise on this one.

[KharmaTrain]

7. We Are Where We Are...

Fixed or not, I still say that the 2004 elections shouldn't have been as close...and by being so, it made it easy for the election to be stolen. Kerry ran an inept campaign that fell prey to many regime dirty tricks and all but rolled over. Here's hoping Senator Obama has learned from that lesson and that the election won't be close enough for it to be grabbed.

That said, yes, 50,000,000 Americans did vote to re-elect fukstik...and IMHO they still have blood on their hands. Many now may have second thoughts or even deny they did vote for the scumbag.

This is why no one should take this election for granted. Fortunately Ken Blackwell is gone and there are more Democrats in charge of the voting machines this year than in 2000 and 2004, but now the GOOP is hellbent on disenfranchising black, hispanic and elderly voters.

[L. Coyote]

13. Remember, they started a war to alter the political landscape in the USA

as much as they did to steal the natural resources in Iraq.

The biggest impact in the USA of Bush's War on Iraq was to change who controlled Congress.
Creating the war is WHY the morons voted they way they did, to sufficient extent to bring about the "apparent" re-election.
Without the war, Bush would have been swept out by a huge majority, and they knew that in 2001 already!!!

[KharmaTrain]

15. Amen...

And it wasn't just natural resources. Many American corporations bought into the "hearts and flowers" game...getting big no-bid contracts to build cellphone systems and other "infrastructure" paid for by our tax dollars. You may remember Scott Berg, the poor soul who lost his head. He was an antenna contractor who had worked for Clear Channel who had a contract to rebuild radio towers...and the poor soul got into the wrong place at the wrong time. Of course General Electric brought many "good things to war" and the spoils went far and deep to friends of the booosh regime in the plunder of Baghdad. We will never know how much money was fleeced and where it ended up...but I remember the stories about the pallets of cash just lying around. This was greed on a massive scale and our corporate media had their hands deep in it.

Many in this country bought years of right wing memes and spin...you couldn't get away from it on the radio and television wasn't much better. Since so many were saying day is night, day must be night. Many have woken up...and to their credit I'm grateful they have and that there are enough of them to prevent Gramps from getting anywhere near the White House...or the election close enough that it can be stolen again.

Cheers...

:hi:

[malaise]

10. I loved that apparently

Pity he didn't go on

[L. Coyote]

12. It indicates they are well aware of the reality we have elucidated!

[KharmaTrain]

4. He Just Explained It...

As long as there are 33 GOOP enablers who will not convict, it's the same as an exoneration for this regime. Is that what people here want? That's how impeachment right now would play out.

McDermott hates this regime as much as anyone...he's been dragged through the mud many times by this regime and its slime machine. You'd think he'd want to impeach more than anyone else, but he sees the scoreboard and the numbers aren't there. That's why it's not practical now.

[bdamomma]

5. I wish some caller would say what Jonathan Turley told KO

Dems guilty of "passivity, if not collusion" in failing to impeach Bush.

and the corporate media needs to be hung to dry, speaking about tomatoes instead of this thuggish criminal regime we have.

[KharmaTrain]

9. They Still Haven't Come Clean About Other Complicity

I'm still waiting for a report on the Pentagon Pundits For Hire scandal. Or how about compelling evidence the corporate media was hellbent in favor of the Iraq invasion and now they pretend that they "asked the imporant questions". There's zero accountability from the corporate media and the more their complicity is brought out the more they ignore and try to change the topic.

Yes, Democratic complicity is related to how tanked the corporate media has been during this regime. Any Democrat who dared to speak out would be slimed...especially prior to '06 and the corporate media would echo the slime so much that it became "common knowledge" and "conventional wisdom". In the end it was the American public that was hung out to dry as Democrats who spoke out were attacked with little ability to defend themselves.

Impeaching booosh wouldn't impeach the corporate media...if anything they would turn it into a circus...just like they did with the Clinton inquisition.

There's no doubt this regime deserves to be impeached, but with a corporate media still more concerned with "access" and influence rather than truth and justice, a fair hearing of this regime's crimes is all but impossible. As I've said...our biggest enemy this election won't be the GOOP but the corporate media.

[bdamomma]

14. oh for sure, the media has been doing a great disservice to us all.

they are just continuing to catapult the * propaganda. We need to be protesting their corporate headquarters.

[KharmaTrain]

16. I Proposed That Years Ago

I thought it'd be nice to send Chicken Noodle News a little message if we got 100,000 or so of our friends together in Atlanta...or to have a nice picnic lunch at Faux Noise plaza in Manhattan, but you're attacking one arm of the octopus and letting the other 7 go free. This is the price we pay for the "deregulation"...and letting "free market" run amok. It's the era of the golden rule...ye who has the gold makes the rules and reserves the right to change them on a whim or retroactively.

Cheers...

:toast:

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

8. on may 14, 2007 rep mcdermott

on the floor of the House, demanded information on the blasts at camp falcon on oct 10, 2006 in Iraq. remember the video of the massive explosions, and the us government saying there were no casualties.
rumors at the time said there were 100s US dead and wounded.

[malaise]

11. I remember that well

So many lies, so many dead and injured.