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notfullofit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:49 PM
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Racial attitudes pose challenge for Obama
By CHARLES BABINGTON
Associated Press Writer

GREENSBURG, Pa. (AP) --

Joyce Susick is the type of voter who might carry Barack Obama to the White House - or keep him out. A registered Democrat in a highly competitive state, she is eager to replace George W. Bush, whom she ranks among the worst presidents ever.

There's just one problem.

"I don't think our country is ready for a black president," Susick, who is white, said in an interview in the paint store where she works. "A black man is never going to win Pennsylvania."

Susick said her personal objection to Obama is his inexperience, not his color. "It has nothing to do with race," she said.

If Susick is right about Pennsylvania voters, it presents a major hurdle for the presumed Democratic nominee. Democrats have carried Pennsylvania in the last four presidential contests, and Obama would have to offset a loss of its 21 electoral votes by taking Republican-leaning states from John McCain.

Polls suggest that Susick, a grandmother of three, does not represent most registered Democrats here or elsewhere. But there may be enough like-minded voters in Pennsylvania, whose last two presidential elections have been close, to tip it to McCain.

In the April 22 primary, Susick voted for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who carried Pennsylvania by 10 percentage points. Perhaps more troubling for Obama, one in four Clinton's backers told exit pollsters they would vote for McCain if Obama were the nominee; an additional 17 percent said they would not vote at all.

Obama has time and money to court these voters. Polls indicate some can be swayed. But the first-term senator is wading into unknown waters. Political scientists have reams of data about past elections, but there has been no test of how many voters make their ultimate decision based on race.

The answer may determine the presidency. Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Florida, with large numbers of white, working-class voters, could prove problematic for a black man even in a year that otherwise looks grim for GOP candidates.

Gauging voter sentiments about race is notoriously difficult. Many voters hide their feelings from pollsters and it is possible that some do not even realize race's influence on their behavior.

In interviews with 40 Pennsylvanians across three counties that Clinton won by big margins, only one person indicated opposition to Obama simply because of his race. But several others said their neighbors might do so. Some offered objections that are familiar, and suspicious, to Obama's aides and supporters.

A few, like Susick, suggested the nation needs more time to prepare for a black president - and perhaps a woman as well.

"I don't think we're ready for either one yet," said Doug Richardson, 62, a contractor from Latrobe. Obama "just hasn't impressed me," he said over midmorning coffee with a friend at Denny's. "His middle name bothers me a lot." That name is Hussein.

In Pennsylvania, as elsewhere, some people hardly hide their prejudices.

Robert Miller, 72, who lives in a government subsidized room in Bedford, said the Constitution should be amended so it will "not let any colored people run for the White House." He seemed unsure about his voting record in recent elections, but vividly recalled voting for Dwight Eisenhower in 1956.

Dixie Pebley of Johnstown, 71, explained her distaste for Obama, saying, "black doesn't bother me, but Muslim does." When reminded that Obama is a Christian, she conceded the point, but added: "He was born Muslim and raised Muslim, that's enough for me. He just scares me to death."



much more....
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBAMA_RACE?SITE=ALMON&SECTION=home&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:51 PM
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1. The coming election is largely a referendum on the character of us white folks....
It'll be interesting to see whether or not we pass.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:52 PM
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2. I have no problem with my character
I'm a white guy and I will vote for the democrat over the republican anytime and everytime regardless of election. If the (R's) nominated a black person, they wouldn't get my vote.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:57 PM
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5. Congratulations. Now we'll wait and see what the aggregate result is.
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notfullofit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 08:56 PM
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15. Yes we will. nt
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:52 PM
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3. OMG!
Obama is Black? I never noticed :P
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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:54 PM
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4. (facepalm)
He didn't PICK his middle name! For the love! Here, have some Kool-Aid with a yummy side of broken glass! why, Experts say it's good for your teeth!


(head plus desktop)
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 02:59 PM
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6. I saw this t-shirt...my head exploded
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:16 PM
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8. Ugh!
That is truly vomit inducing.
:puke:

Regards
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:03 PM
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7. These people will never be ready.
They are too full of fear.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:28 PM
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9. Fuck 'em if they are not ready to accept Obama. They'll be swept
under by change if they are not riding its waves.

:kick:
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:51 PM
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10. What is driving this obsession with "race" topics?
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:52 PM
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11. Probably all the racists.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:59 PM
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12. I believe that the many "racist" topic threads are meant to keep the focus
on the fact that Obama is an Africa American. They serve no good purpose.
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notfullofit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 05:33 PM
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14. If you
just Google Obama and 'race factor' you will get thousands of hits.

Hey, we made History now and want to make History again in November and if you omit the race factor then we have not made History at all.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:51 PM
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17. Race is always a factor. But, right now, the prime goal is to get
Obama elected. He naturally will be attacked on a racial basis. I know that. He will rise above that
and become America's President, the first African American and that will be a great thing for him,
us, America and the world.

Meanwhile, during the run up to the general election, if I see what appears to be disingenuous attacks
against our candidate on the basis if race, I will voice my opinion. I will call it as it appears to me.

Even though I'm an older voter, I have no preoccupation with Obama's racial origin. He is smart, articulate and is a good man. That's why I'm excited about his candidacy.

I'd like to see more discussion on DU about other issues, the one that need serious leadership to rectify.

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notfullofit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 05:01 PM
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13. Because I have been reading that...
It's something political analysts will be talking about a lot, whether it makes them uncomfortable or not.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:15 PM
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16. Obama calls upon us all
to utilize "our better selves."
This country has been wallowing in bush/rove's call for everyone to utilize their worst instincts, or as Roslyn Carter said of Reagan, he wants everyone to feel comfortable with their prejudices.
Obama will have to bring people along to this new way of being and thinking.

Can Americans rise to their best instincts? Can Americans let go of their grip on ignorance (as evidenced by the people in this article) We have before and I think Obama can bring it back.
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notfullofit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:28 PM
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18. I think
some of the older folks are just 'set in their ways' too old to change their opinions but the young folks are a different story and they will come out and vote more than ever before because the enthusiasm is there without the old biases.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 01:49 AM
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22. Have to agree
Had to hang around nursing homes the last few years and could not believe the words that were used by some of the residents - derogatory slang terms for minorities. It seems to play a large part of their lives. Not all though.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:39 PM
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19. A Hillary quote; "screw em"...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:42 PM
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20. I expect that Mr Obama has dealt with this sort of issue in the past. nt
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notfullofit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:57 PM
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21. You are right and so far he's handled it pretty well too. nt
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