Oh, goodie, a public book burning

[krispos42]

Regional revival tackles community standards
Pornography, Harry Potter books burned at monthly meeting
By Kristi Richie • [e-mail] • June 7, 2008


About 30 people gathered for a regional revival Friday night that included a book burning as a statement to reach out to local residents.

"It is allowed for Harry Potter to be taught in our schools, but not the Bible," International House of Prayer pastor James Crawford said during the Shreveport Regional Unity of Faith Revival.

That is one reason pastors from several denominations and races ripped pages from "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone." Those and pages from a pornographic magazine were put into a burn pit and set afire as praises bellowed from the congregation.

"As I tore the pages, I felt a generational curse of immorality and perversion breaking off my family," Adriane Banks said. "I felt it."

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http://shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080607/NEWS01/806070336&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

Love the pic that goes with the story:

Sieg Heil, yo!

gee, looks familiar...

[Muttocracy]

1. lately I can't figure out if we're in the early 20th or early 21st century

One minute we're YouTubing and you might think anyone can be a serious contender for president.

The next we're back to raw racism, sexism, and good ol' book burnin'

Is that guy in the middle wearing a microphone?

I feel bad for the kids there :(

[annabanana]

38. early 17th?

It's a short hop from books to witches. . .

[FirstLight]

56. Yikes, don't scare me this early in the morning!

I am sill carrying those scars rom lifetimes ago!


Never again!!! ;)

[Beregond2]

2. This is such a failure of our educational system.

How can people in a democracy have so little understanding of what that means? Have our schools been so cowed by fundie nutbags that they don't teach kids about the importance of freedom of expression and the separation of church and state?

[Echo In Light]

41. It's the invariable manifestations of the broad corporate culture

Take a look at the pic in my sig line: all that shit serves to shape and coerce the public mind toward specific aims. It's not just the teachers/schools/curriculum - they are staffed and run by people who've likewise been indoctrinated into the corporate culture mindset, and despite best intentions, seek to produce like minded cogs to fit into the corporate machinery. It's much bigger than assigning blame to any one facet.

[MadHound]

77. You really don't know many teachers do you?

"they are staffed and run by people who've likewise been indoctrinated into the corporate culture mindset, and despite best intentions, seek to produce like minded cogs to fit into the corporate machinery."

What a fucking slap in the face of every single liberal, caring, hard working teacher out there, including those who post here. The vast majority of teachers in this country aren't conservative, aren't indoctrinated into the corporate culture, and aren't seeking to produce like-minded cogs for the corporate machinery. No, they are caring, educated, liberal people who are trying, despite the vagueries of public opinion and support, despite coming under attack from both the right, and sadly the left side of the political spectrum, and despite an every increasing social, mental, physical and economic burden, to produce well educated, well balanced, free thinking adults, and are still succeeding more times than not.

You really need to do a few things before you presume to speak on this subject again. First, get to know, I mean really know a great many teachers. Second, get to know the education profession. Finally get to know the burdens that teachers carry everyday, the attacks we suffer, the impossible roles we're supposed to fill, and how, in the face of serious opposition from idiots on the right and idiots on the left, teachers are still continuing to do their job.

Until you do these things, you cannot possibly understand, and have no right to criticize, the teachers that are giving their lives and souls to continue to educate the next generation without the help of the vast majority of this society.

As a teacher, I fully expect attacks from the narrow minded, anti-educated conservative set. However it always infuriates me when idiots like yourself attack from the left, accusing us of engaging in indoctrination, propaganda, brainwashing or worse. Perhaps you should come attend one of my fifth grade classes, perhaps you might learn something, perhaps some respect and manners:shrug: After all, you and your glorious anti-corporate philosophy had to spring from somewhere, did you ever thing that it was the products of your *gasp* education:eyes:

[Clovis Sangrail]

3. IHOP???

:rofl:

[krispos42]

6. IHOP?

:wtf:


You in a pancake mood or sumptin'?


Mmmm... pancakes...

[Captain Angry]

7. They had to do that on purpose.

Damn that's funny.

[krispos42]

19. Do what?

I'm not getting it.

:-(

[fishwax]

23. "International House of Prayer"

(IHOP) is the name of the group in the article ;)

[krispos42]

27. Oh, god, of course

:rofl:

Dammit, I've been staring at that picture going "did I miss something?" for quite a while now!

[jmowreader]

75. How much you wanna bet it's in an abandoned IHOP cafe?

[and-justice-for-all]

4. "It is allowed for Harry Potter to be taught in our schools, ..

...but not the bible."

A) What kind of school 'teaches' about Harry Potter? and B) both are FICITION.

Someone had to also BUY those books they through on the pyre, or did someone steal them for'em?

[ieoeja]

68. Never heard of English and Lit?

My kid has had to do twenty-five book reports each year since the 2nd grade. They are given a list of a couple hundred books or so and told to read something from one of them. These range from your classic Dickens to today's popular books ... like Harry Potter. The point being to get the kids reading.

For my kid it has back-fired terribly. He was a prolific reader and testing out at 9th grade reading level at the end of the 3rd grade. He is finishing 6th now and loathes reading. It is a trial to get him through the twenty-five every year. He says they required so much reading that he came to despise it.

[Silent3]

5. What we need is some gay Dumbledore porn to send them.

Their heads would probably explode before they could burn it. :evilgrin:

[krispos42]

9. The Bible printed on gay Dumbledor porn!

Watch their heads 'asplode in confusion!

"Must.... burn.... can't.... burn.... must.... burn.... can't.... burn..."

<splat!>

[hyphenate]

72. ....

Come on baby, light my fire! Try to set the night on fire!

If they can't handle Harry Potter, they certainly never would have managed Jim Morrison!

[Contrary1]

30. No way is Dumbledore gay!

[momster]

8. That Kid is Thinking

'Hmmm, can't wait to read it and find out what all the fuss is about...'

[Kerrytravelers]

10. You know, if a kid wants to bring a Bible to school and read, that is fine.

Kids can read basically anything they want, just so long as there isn't nude pictures (like Playboy.) Although, I did have a third grader sneak his dad's Penthouse to school one day. That was quite an experience.

[ulysses]

36. shhhh! don't tell them that!

It messes with their victimhood.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

11. taint much that I hate, but burning books be one of them.

I would literally give up a little finger to spend serious time in the Vatican's bowels, with someone who can translate, or in the now destroyed Alexandria library, again with said translator.

book burning - a mortal's sin, as defined by a confirmed agnostic.

[awoke_in_2003]

66. Remember one scene

in Day After Tomorrow. They were stranded in a library, burning books to keep warm. The Librarian was clutching the Guttenberg Bible. When asked, he said he was an atheist, but was protecting it because of what it was- the first mass printed book and the new ease of spreading knowledge.

[hyphenate]

76. One of the first films

I ever saw (with some adult clarity) was Fahrenheit 451--the original with Oscar Werner. I tell you--the book burning scenes terrified me. Strangely enough, one of the books that was on top of a pile was one I have always wanted to read, but haven't yet--Thief's Journal by Jean Genet. It's amazing that I can remember that after so many years.

[rusty quoin]

12. I've heard several interviews with David Sirota and his new book..

forget the name. He says that the popularist rising can go our way or their way. Things are up in the air.

[pnorman]

49. "The Uprising: An Unauthorized Tour of the Populist Revolt Scaring Wall Street and Washington"

Here's one such interview: http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/interviews/110
Here's another: http://www.creators.com/opinion/david-sirota.html
Here's his website: http://davidsirota.com/index.php/embracing-populism/
Here's the Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Uprising-Unauthorized-Populist-Scaring-Washington/dp/0307395634

pnorman
On edit: I just checked Audible.com,and it's available there!
Here it is: http://www.audible.com/adbl/site/products/ProductDetail.jsp?productID=BK_TANT_000660&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes

[IndyOp]

50. David Sirota's new book is "Uprising" -- he describes as the stage before 'movement'

I was just listening to a podcast of his interview on Laura Flanders' AAR show about the new book. I am really intrigued about it because it uses as an example the uprising in Montana that swept Brian Schweitzer into office.

David Sirota's new book is "The Uprising: An Unauthorized Tour of the Populist Revolt Scaring Wall Street and Washington." Due out on May 27th, 2008, the book is a work of investigative journalism. It is a firsthand narrative account inside America's new populist movement, from the streets of New York City to the halls of Microsoft to the deserts at the Mexican border.

http://davidsirota.com/

[Mojambo]

13. I feel profound sorrow for those kids in that photo.

Not much else to say about it. Very sad

[WorseBeforeBetter]

15. That's what I feel.

Look at that poor little boy. :-(

[ulysses]

37. imagine them in twenty years.

:scared:

[AlCzervik]

14. i wonder how many times they looked at the porn before they burned it?

and at the Ihop?

[anonymous171]

18. That's what I wondered. What's a good christian doing with porn?

[AlCzervik]

20. i'm sure there was a lot of quality time with those mags in the bathrooms of their

fine fundamentalist homes. and i'm sure if any of them are married their wives are wondering why all the kleenex and hand lotion have disappeared.

[fla nocount]

31. Might as well burn them.

all pages were stuck together anyway.

[hootinholler]

67. Standard Biohazard protocol. n/t

[TalkingDog]

16. It's obvious that he started burning books

along about the time they started trying to teach him grammar.

"It is allowed for Harry Potter to be taught in our schools, but not the Bible"


That might be why he started burning books.

[anonymous171]

17. Who teaches Harry Potter in schools?

[uppityperson]

32. Maybe they think Hogwarts is real?

[Tesha]

40. It ISN'T? Damn! I was planning on applying next term! (NT)

[anonymous171]

21. Whenever I see these "pious" people, I'm always reminded of Matthew 6:1-18

"Be careful not to display your righteousness merely to be seen by people. Otherwise you have no reward with your Father in heaven." Typical fundy hypocrites.

[FirstLight]

55. You know, you have a point...

The fundies are the Sadducees of our era. Conform to the LAW of consumerism and hatred and fear.

And Jesus is still that "long haired hippie" talking about love and acceptance and peace.

god, 2000 years


...you'd think we'd have come a bit further? :scared:

This book burning is no different than the Iranian Flag burnings. Don't they see that?
Why you people got to be Hatin'?

[magellan]

22. These people are so messed up in their heads it isn't funny

What they're doing is a shameful testament to their own ignorance on so many levels. Like others here I feel most sorry for the kids, who are being raised in such an intolerant, unthinking environment.

[Gabi Hayes]

24. nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! they skipped the books, though, I think,

and went straight to people...cats, too.

[FVZA_Colonel]

25. I'm sure Goebbels would get a kick out of the fact that 40 years after this country defeated his,

it's continuing on the tradition he made famous.

[anonymous171]

26. How immature! We Catholics got over burning stuff CENTURIES ago.

[SirDaddybear]

39. So did we Protestants

These people are idiots.

C'mon.

[Sultana]

28. I bet they can't even read to begin with

Did they buy the books and magazines themselves?

That's kind of lame, if they indeed did pay for them wouldn't they be supporting "immorality" :silly:

[Solly Mack]

29. "I felt it." ROFLMAO

I felt the devil leave me - I felt it, I tell you. I felt it. It was like this burning swooooosh....and now I'm clean.


lolololololololol


Idiots.

[readmoreoften]

33. So did they commit the tee-tahs to memory before burning...

or are they returning to the porn store later?

[blondeatlast]

42. "Some people say" that there was a deft switch of hundreds of last week's "OK!" magazines

for the porn before the burning.

[rucky]

34. I'd be laughing, if people like this weren't my neighbors

and in such large numbers.

[comtec]

35. My first thought was of that kid thinking "My Harry Potters..."

Before I read the text.. and yup, sure enough, they;re gettin wiggy over HP.
why can't morans like this just die out and leave the gene pool like good dinosaurs?
The Darwin awards were made for like these!

[baldguy]

43. "Where one burns books, one will soon burn people."

[Marrah_G]

44. I feel bad for these people- they are brainwashed and allowing themselves to be taken advantage of

Of course the day they try and burn my little family of Witches (Wiccans)I won't let that pity give me a moments pause.

[pnorman]

45. View the video for: "Life and Liberty for All Who Believe",

from this website: http://www.theocracywatch.org/audio-video.htm

Among other 'soul-stirring" scenes, you'll see another example of children gleefully tossing books, magazines, and such, into a cheerfully blazing bonfire. Christo-fascists! :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

pnorman

[YankeyMCC]

46. F-ing nitwits!

[Blue_Tires]

47. forgive them, for they know not what they do...

god is love! NOW DIE IN A FIRE!!!!!!

[LaurenG]

48. People are STILL so fear based

:(

[progressoid]

51. I remember a college student breaking his albums in half because their Satanic influence...

One of them was a Dan Fogelberg album. :eyes:





Troglodytes

[TNOE]

52. Yea, teaching the Bible in school

Because kids really need to know and believe these basic tenets of society:

Numbers 31:17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

IT SAYS IN THE BIBLE THAT

IT’S OK TO THROW WOMEN TO THE MOB

Genesis 19:5. And they called to Lot, and said to him, Where are the men which came in to your place tonight, bring them out to us, so we can get to know them.

6. And Lot went out the door to them, and shut the door behind him,

7. And said, look, don't do this nasty stuff with these men.

8. I have two daughters which have never had sex ; let me, bring them out to you, and you can do to them whatever you want : only to these men do nothing; for they're my guests.

IT SAYS IN THE BIBLE THAT INCEST

IS OK FOR GOD’S SAVED ONES

Genesis19:34. The next day , that the firstborn said to the younger, Last night I had sex with father : let us make him drink wine this night also; and you go in and have sex with him , that we may preserve the seed of our father.

35. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and had sex with her father ; and he didn't realize she had laid down, nor when she arose.

36. Thus both the daughters of Lot were made pregnant by their father.

This is the kind of stuff that is banned from television, but it's in the Bible !!

[MedleyMisty]

54. That's all metaphor, apparently

and open to sunny happy good loving everyone is equal interpretation.

[Mr. Blonde]

53. I remember the first time

people started getting upset about Harry Potter and wanting to burn it or ban it whatever...I asked a teacher who agreed with that and he said he thought it encouraged immoral behavior and all that what with the witchcraft and stuff. I asked what about The Lord of the Rings? He said that was different it was a classic. In the interest of maintaining the GPA I let it go, but seriously, is that the only test? A book has to stay around for a while and then it can say whatever it wants? Even something as heretical as short people with hairy feet?

Sidenote: I think the Bible should be taught in schools. Not as religion, but as literature. Without a knowledge of the Bible you are going to miss a lot of the imagery and allusions in other classic work.

If we aren't going to teach the Bible then no one should have to read Greek myths either. That was their religion after all.

[krispos42]

57. Well said

I sometimes wish I'd had a similar class as a study of world religions, as opposed to studying to be a Christian. I'm woefully ignorant of the Bible and do not understand many references.

Thank God for Wikipedia.

[TNOE]

62. I highly recommend this site

it takes a scientific approach to Bible scriptures:

http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/

[Hydra]

58. I love the double standard in America

When I was going to school, the teachers spoke darkly about the Nazis burning books and the Soviets reading people's mail...

Now we do it, and it's ok?

I'm calling out ANYONE who claims we have moral high ground...in any way.

[lame54]

59. They had to go out and but the Harry Potter books but...

the porn mags were probably from their personal collections

[treestar]

60. Do they realize Harry Potter is fiction?

They seem to think it is some sort of religion! :rofl:

[Bill McBlueState]

61. What a load of shit.

It is allowed for Harry Potter to be taught in our schools, but not the Bible

Both books can be and are taught in schools. Any journalist who includes this quote in her report without clarifying the truth of the matter isn't doing her job.

[libnnc]

63. I remember in 9th grade some nutter came to town

to hold revival at a popular local church that many of my friends attended (Baptist...I was Methodist). He had all the kids so riled up they started burning all their records and cassette tapes. One of my friends burned all her Barry Manilow records...:eyes:

They were burning DuranDuran, Culture Club, YES, The Eagles...I tried to get them to give the stuff to me but they were worried about my soul :freak:

[ieoeja]

71. I'm worried about your soul as well.

So send me your entire collection of music.

To dispose of properly, of course.

[Evoman]

64. As soon as I read the title of the OP, I thought.....Religious Fanatics. It's always religion.

[LucyParsons]

65. Ahhhh, I'm so proud to hail from the Ark-La-Tex

:eyes:

[hyphenate]

69. ...

"As I tore the pages, I felt a generational curse of immorality and perversion breaking off my family," Adriane Banks said. "I felt it."



:rofl: These kind of idiots still exist?

(That was rhetorical--I don't need an answer!)

[nxylas]

70. "Harry Potter, but not the Bible" in schools

As far as I know, the Constitution doesn't prescribe the separation of children's literature and state.

[LanternWaste]

73. Is deleting a pfd file...

Is deleting a pfd file of a book the moral equivalent of burning it? :evilgrin:

[bertha katzenengel]

74. In Molly's words: I may urp myself.

Deeply disturbing.