Using fuel additive for increasing mileage CA-40g

[Demonaut]

anyone trying to save on gas might want to consider this, I have an 89 944 turbo and I've been using this additive I heard about on Ed Shultz's show and it seems to be working for me...was getting about 350 miles per tanks and now after three tanks I've been getting about 380+ miles per tank or from 18mpg before to 22 mpg after
I have no affiliation with this company but I thought I'd try it out and due to the increase in gas prices I'm pretty happy with the results.

AGAIN I have no financial ties to this company no affiliation whatsoever

[Fresh_Start]

1. can you provide a name so that I can try it for myself?

thanks

[AlCzervik]

2. i looked it up, here is the web site.

http://www.hydro-zoneinc.com/ca40.htm

[Fresh_Start]

4. thank you

I assumed CA-40 was the road he was driving...lol

[AlCzervik]

7. i thought it was one of our Congressional districts. :-)

[Ganja Ninja]

3. Here's a link.

http://www.ca40direct.com/

[Fresh_Start]

6. thank you

I assumed CA-40 was the rode he was driving on not the product name

[Demonaut]

5. it's in the header...ca-40g...I bought this stuff about 6 months ago

and started using it about two months ago....google it but make sure you get the measuring device...it's a pain in the ass to find 1 fluid oz bottles

[Fresh_Start]

8. stupid assumption on my part

I thought CA-40 was
http://www.westcoastroads.com/california/i-040_ca.html

[Gold Metal Flake]

9. I've increased my mileage 4MPG with no additives at all.

By changing my driving style.
I accelerate more gently from stops. I coast in neutral down long grades. I keep my speed below 70 on the freeways. Result: 4 extra MPG on my commutes and six on long cruises. From 28 to 32 in my Ford Focus across almost 10 tankfuls.

Cost to me? Not a damn thing.

[Demonaut]

10. time dude....it cost you time

but good for you, I should change my driving habits as well..except for drafting on big trucks..my windshield costs about $1200

[Gold Metal Flake]

11. Bullshit.

Time. My ass. It does not cost me time. I no longer zoom by people who are accelerating slower than I am just to come upon the ass end of a truck or be blocked by other traffic (requireing braking and thus the wasting of gas). I no longer have to brake and fight my way to the right when exiting the freeway because I don't speed just to pass people in the left lane. Street lights work the same way but I no longer race to the red. I arrive at work more relaxed.

I spend no more time on my commute than I did previously. I just save enough gas by changing my driving habits on my 40 mile round trip commute to end the week almost a gallon ahead. It's almost like getting one day's commute a week for free for me. And it costs me nothing.


On Edit: Sorry for yelling. I'm hip about drafting. Unsafe at any speed. Try some changes in your driving habits. Sure, my route might be more advantageous for my gains, but I'll bet you will see some additional gains.

[EOTE]

18. If that costs you no time, then you had poor driving habits to begin with.

I'm very judicious with my throttle and I lose extremely little efficiency to either braking or acceleration. I've been utilizing hyper-miling techniques for quite some time now, so your recommendations would do nothing for me. If I wanted to improve my fuel efficiency further, I'd need to use something else, such as an additive. I look at any fuel additive with a good amount of suspicion, but I certainly wouldn't denigrate someone else for offering a recommendation. Bad form.

[Gold Metal Flake]

19. Hmmm.

"I've been utilizing hyper-miling techniques for quite some time now, so your recommendations would do nothing for me."

So ignore the post. It's not for you. No need to spend the time to reply. :eyes:

"...but I certainly wouldn't denigrate someone else for offering a recommendation."

You just did. :rofl:

[EOTE]

23. No, I didn't.

I didn't denigrate you for offering a recommendation. I denigrated how you attacked the other poster for offering his. You were insulting him for offering a way of fuel savings via an additive. What's foolish about your response is that even if the additive works as it is supposed to, you would see a gain in fuel economy no matter how you drove. So if you were already hyper-miling, you should see a gain on top of that. If you want to promote more efficient driving techniques, go for it, but it's extremely foolish to think that it's an either-or type situation. It's just not.

[Gold Metal Flake]

26. I neither attacked nor denigrated.

You are the aggressor in this thread.

[madokie]

14. but the time is minuscule

back when I was a kid I was headed uptown to see my girlfriend and I was in a hurry so I was passing everything on the road, 30 miles later when I pulled in to buy gas the first car I had passed back there was going by. I couldn't have gained but a minute or two. That realization mighta coulda saved my life as I don't drive in a hurry anymore since then, knowing its only a matter of a few minutes difference anyway.

[LSK]

17. how does it cost you time when you speed up to the next red light

instead of coasting to it.

I see so many people driving like idiots and somehow I always catch them at the next light.

You can do little things like not floor it on takeoff, coast to red lights, etc.

[rdenney]

27. Coasting an auto transmission will cause damage

for a short hill its OK but on a long downhill you are harming the tranny.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

12. Interesting - thanks

I note at the website that they say this stuff really cleans up the fuel system. There are certain fuel additives like acetone that can eat or corrode certain metals, especially in older cars. Hopefully, this chemical compound doesn't do that. I would check your fuel filter on your car for build-up (and clean it often) in the early days of using this additive until your fuel line is cleaned out. If this fuel additive is safe for the car and if it actually helps to more completely burn the gas that otherwise doesn't get burned and escapes down the exhaust, this is a good product for better mileage and also for cleaner emissions. I wonder if the cost compared to the better mileage you get is worthwhile.

[madokie]

13. let me see if this adds up, you added 30 miles total

and the mpg went from 18 to 22.

350 divided by 18 = 19.44
380 divided by 22 = 17.27

If I'm seeing this right I question the facts as written, explain please

[Demonaut]

16. actually your math is correct but before I used the additive I used to get

about 17 to 18 mpg when I calculated it by how much I put in...this last fill up I put in 18.14 gallons and my trip odometer read 399.8 miles which comes out to 22 mpg..thanks for correcting me my unscientific post.

[madokie]

21. Its just that when there is errors early on it makes it hard to take any of it seriously

I'll pass on putting additives in my tanks though other than an injector cleaner from time to time. That doesn't mean you have to do as I do though, huh.:hi:

[high density]

15. If they'd stop putting out E10 gas we'd all get higher MPG

That stuff is garbage.

[rdenney]

28. Since ethanol has half the BTU of gasoline you lose 5 % power per gallon.

[Xithras]

20. Yeah, increase your mileage while shortening your engine life.

The primary ingredient in CA-40 is CANOLA OIL. It improves your mileage by boosting the BTU rating of the fuel you're using. There are several other products on the market that do the same thing (heck, simple acetone can do it), but they're all oil based, corrosive to engine parts, and tend to be marketed at performance junkies.

CA-40 gets around the corrosive issues because it's an organic compound, but the downside is that you'll increase carbon build up in your motor. You'll see build up on your spark plugs, on your injector tips, on your valves, and in your catalytic converter. Yes, that mileage boost is nice, but any cost savings in fuel is going to be offset by that engine rebuild that you'll need after using it for a while.

If you want to try it anyway, you can just pour a very tiny amount of canola oil into your fuel tank (we're talking a SMALL amount) and get the same results for far less money. CA-40 mixes the canola oil with something else, but it's the canola doing all the work.

My dad swore by CA-40 and ran it in his car until he uncovered this info. He's a shade tree mechanic so the rebuild thing didn't worry him (his quote: "So I have to pull the heads every few years? No big deal"), but he's since switched to just using canola directly. Same mileage gain at a fraction of the cost.

[Gold Metal Flake]

22. This concerns me.

Any of the usual plant oils that are familiar to us will contain glycerine, the stuff that makes the oil thick. Extracted glycerine is used in the translucent gold soaps that are popular. Glycerine is what is removed from veg oil in the process of making biodiesel (basically, the glycerine molecules are removed and replaced by alcohol molecules). Glycerine does not burn well in a (relatively) low temp, fast burn environment like a gasoline engine. Nor does it burn well in a high temp, fast burn environment like a diesel engine.

Heating veg oil so that it thins and flows more like diesel is one step in using straight veg in a diesel. Heating also helps prevent the glycerine from sticking to the cylinder walls, combustion chamber, valves and rings, but it still will. When I ran straight veg in my VW diesel (a complete heated veg system) I eventually had to tear down and re-ring it because of carbon fouling of the ring lands due to glycerine.

Without some serious long-term testing of this stuff, the kind of testing that the automakers do, I would be hesitent to use such additives. I will admit that having been an car nut and car hobbyist since age 11 that I have grown distrustful of additives, so maybe I am too sensitive.

[Johonny]

24. MYthbusters

did I nice show on fuel additives. Indeed driving habits can effect your millage far more than additives and they don't cost you anything.

[Demonaut]

25. Granted but it tested only a few additives the results I'm

getting prove otherwise...combined with hypermiling I'm hoping for better yet. Cummins tested the product and measured a 12 to 24 percent decrease in fuel consumption, no link but you can google it