I love our party but...

[ccharles000]

Do you ever think that our party leaders take the GLBT, African American, and female base of our party for granted? Because they assume we have no other option but to vote for them. I will never vote repub but I think the party should not take my vote for granted.


PS.this is my 900th post.

[lligrd]

1. I Think They Take Most Of Us For Granted nt

[complain jane]

2. Good point. n/t

[Eric Condon]

3. Indeed. I'm a heterosexual white male, but I still feel taken for granted by the party.

See, I'm one of those pesky "liberals." At least this year, we can maintain some semblance of hope that the Party might shape up a little once we finally tell the DLC once and for all to fuck off.

[southerncrone]

5. My sentiments exactly.

We are all taken for granted.

& F-off DLC! :thumbsdown:

They have been the "problem" when they thought they were the "solution".

The day the DLC came into existence is the day the Democratic Party became the GOP in a dress.

[Fireweed247]

15. yes

:applause:

We must take out party back- the party of the people, not the corporations...

[New Dawn]

6. Basically...

If you are not a millionaire or billionaire "donor", you are taken for granted.

[RedCappedBandit]

18. agreed. nt

[zonmoy]

19. They take everybody but their corporate and other masters for granted.

Repukes are the same way in that department.

[Captain Angry]

4. Politicians of all stripes seem to have us all in neat little boxes.

Does my vote change when I go from the 25-34 to 35-49 age range? How about when I become a college graduate? Especially when I do it at 34?

What about when I live in a "red" state? But an urban area in the red state?

It's all crap. There are nearly 300 million people in the USA. Many are able to vote, most don't. It's a mess.

[ToeBot]

7. Of course, both sides do it. The main difference though, between the two parties...

the Republicans throw their ideological captives a bone every now and again.

[El Pinko]

8. I think if gays, blacks, women are considering voting GOP because dems don't kowtow enough...

...then they probably were not democrats to begin with.

Personally, I'd vote for a candidate with an ambivalent position on GLBT/race/gender who had a progressive stance on economic issues LONG before I'd vote for a "pro-gay/black/feminist" repuke pushing privatization and anti-poor/working class policies.

Left-right ideology, distribution of wealth, labor, kitchen-table issues will always come first for me. Social issues must take a back seat, because the right is all about transferring wealth from the poor to the rich. That is its PRIMARY FUNCTION. They only use gays and blacks, whether bashing/baiting them, or exploiting/pandering to them, as tools to achieve that end.

[Lyric]

12. "Kow-tow"??

I've never met a minority person in my life who expected any party or government to "kow-tow" to them. There's an enormous magnitude of difference between honoring and respecting our Constitutional and civil rights and "kow-towing". Does the Democratic party "kow-tow" to YOUR rights when they refuse to allow the Repukes to institutionalize Christianity? Do they "kow-tow" to the people who belong to unions when they support organized labor? Is it only the majority that deserves to have its rights respected and honored today?

It does not and SHOULD not be "either-or". I want my candidates to have good economic policies AND good social justice policies. Anyone who doesn't have BOTH, to quote you, "probably wasn't a Democrat to begin with."

[El Pinko]

14. Whatever. My personal priority issues have been totally neglected in recent years.

"Does the Democratic party "kow-tow" to YOUR rights when they refuse to allow the Repukes to institutionalize Christianity?"

Um, no, the slight majority of dems that stands up for separation of church and state do so because it is fundamental to the constitution.

" Do they "kow-tow" to the people who belong to unions when they support organized labor?"

The democrats support labor? That's news to me. Maybe compared to the GOP who are dead-set on destroying labor as a political force. The dems seem ambivalent to labor at best...

" Is it only the majority that deserves to have its rights respected and honored today?"

That's not my point. Economic issues are life-and-death issues. People go hungry and end up on the street or dead because of them. I view it as a crisis situation when those needs are not met, and they're not.



What more do you want from the democratic party? It has come a long way from when I first started voting, and I don't think it does take the groups you named for granted. If anything, it blows off working people more than anyone else. It soft-soaps them and then when they're in power, they give us crap like UNPAID family leave. But I know for a fact that the GOP would give us MUCH MUCH worse, so I vote for the dems - the status-quo party.


At least gays, minorities and women have enjoyed progress in recent years, unlike the bottom 40 or 50% of wage-earners.


As gays and minorites have made huge strides toward equality in the last 20 years, working people have been pummeled - their incomes decimated and handed over to the wealthy. Labor union membership has plummeted and good jobs sent overseas - and the democrats have done fuck all about it, but you don't see me threatening to vote GOP.


No constituency should be "taken for granted" by a political party, but that's the breaks. It happens. You think the GOP will do ANYTHING for minorities, gays or women? Maybe the ones with a shitload of money. The rest can fuck off as far as the GOP is concerned.

[Chovexani]

16. I will not vote GOP. The party simply won't get another dime from me.

But thank you for your concern, Miss Millie.

(If you don't understand that reference, I suggest you either read or rent The Color Purple.)

[Mojambo]

9. They assume correctly

Not saying it's right, but yeah, you have no other option.

None of us do.

[Selatius]

10. They have the luxury to take people for granted. It's a two party system. Gonna vote Republican?

Most black people and members of the GLBT community would not ever vote for the Republican over the Democrat.

You know what happens when they are disgusted with the Dem answer that falls short and is too little?

They stay home, and each decade more and more stay home.

This is why the US has recorded some of the lowest voter turnouts in the industrialized world. European nations put us to shame on this score.

The two-party system is a disaster, and it will only lead to the death of this Republic if nothing is done to correct it. Unfortunately, for people who hold power in the current system, they do not want things to change.

[Echo In Light]

13. Well stated

[Indenturedebtor]

11. You forgot to include "Non-CEO's" in your poll n/t

[rch35]

17. Its only partly the parties fault for this

its also the fault of the electoral system we have, which fosters a two party system, and in a two party system you have to constantly battle for the people that might switch sides, not the people that are least likely too.