I say we friggin BOYCOTT EXXON/MOBIL

[rateyes]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3319432

Yeah, we all need to fuel our vehicles, but we don't have to buy it from Exxon/Mobil. I say we wipe that smug look off the face of Rex Tillerson.

Piece of shit. When Exxon gets gasoline below $2.00 then we might think about giving them our business. And, when the mom and pop stores start losing money because they sell Exxon/Mobil gasoline, they'll be putting pressure on the company, too.

Piss on these unpatriotic bastards. No, we can't get them all, but we can get one of them.

[mucifer]

1. all the oil companys are evil. We need to have them investigated.

[rateyes]

4. We can still boycott while the investigations continue.

I say we put Exxon/Mobil out of our misery.

[cynatnite]

2. I haven't been to an Exxon station since Valdez n/t

[rateyes]

5. Good. Help others make that same choice.

[rosesaylavee]

25. Ditto.

Only deviated once a few years back when I was running on fumes and there no other choices in sight.

[Junkdrawer]

3. Haven't been in a Exxon/Mobile station for years...n/t

[rateyes]

6. See reply #5.

:hi:

[The_Commonist]

7. Already do!

But then, I don't own a car.
The few times a year that I rent one, I don't buy from Standard Oil.
Usually, Citgo.

[rateyes]

9. Let's talk to those who don't.

[mach2]

8. There is no way to tell where the gasoline in any service station came from.

The oil and refined products all get mixed together at one point or other.

[rateyes]

11. Doesn't matter. If it has an Exxon/Mobil sign out front...

it will hurt them.

[mach2]

32. No, it won't. They sell all the gas they process - somewhere.

You can buy fuel at a Gulf station that could easily be refined by Exxon.

[proud2BlibKansan]

10. I have been boycotting them for 20 years

since the Valdez spill. They didn't clean it up and they never paid the fines. That case is STILL in court, being appealed over and over by Exxon Mobil.

[rateyes]

13. All the more reason to help others join the cause.

[liberal N proud]

12. I already do

I will drive an extra mile to avoid Exxon, Mobil or Shell

I have passed up gas at the risk of running out of gas before I will buy from these companies.

[rateyes]

14. Good. Let's get the rest of the nation on board. nt

[Ilsa]

15. I sold my stock in XOM. I would rather use Conoco or another brand

that carries Tier 2 gas (I don't mean 89 octane).

The XOM stockholders had a number of stockholder proposals that management didn't like. I hope at least some of the proposals win out.

[flvegan]

16. Even at $2/gallon, Exxon will never get my business.

[Wiley50]

17. I've already been doing that for years. I buy from Chavez if I can't find an indy station n/t

[silverweb]

18. Been boycotting them specifically for years...

...even when I had a car.

Haven't had a car for a few years now, so I've effectively been boycotting them all and getting along just fine in the process. Piss on them all!

[elocs]

19. I don't believe that boycotts are at all effective except on a very local level.

Where I live there are no Exxon/Moble stations anyways, the city is dominated by 7/11 type gas stations. But if boycotting makes you feel better personally, then do it. How do I hurt and piss on Exxon without hurting all of the little people who work for them? The law of Unintended Consequences.

[Ian David]

20. Only buy Hess and Citgo. n/t

[Dreamer Tatum]

21. They made more money in the time it took you to write that than most make in a lifetime

Hard to put the slightest of dents in that machine.

[bill for obama]

22. You know you can't really know who is jobbing the gas -

You go to "X" cut right gas station - where you think they get the gas to sell??

If you are thinking that way - you look to the refiners that are supplying the gas to begin with - that is the way it works.

But truthfully - the gas stations you go to - have nothing at all to do with this - and the station owners are probably more pissed than any of us. And they have no choice when they have to refill their tanks - at all.

[Captain Angry]

23. Exxon gets all of the business.

It doesn't matter whose name is on the sign, the oil comes from their refining business in many cases.

On the retail side, they probably do only get a few cents per gallon as they keep insisting. But on the refining, extraction, exploration side, there is huge money.

We don't need to boycott any company. We need to stop using gasoline. Period.

It's just like the people who are mad at those dirty Arabs in OPEC. You know what? The #1 and #3 exporters of oil to the USA are Canada and Mexico. Kind of ruins the whole stereotype about oil rich Arabs doing this to us. No, it's the world market. Demand and financial speculation have moved the prices up.

If you had a well that produced vanilla malts, and people wanted to buy some of it to reduce the available supply so they could sell it to somebody else later for more than they paid, are you the bad guy for drilling it? Or is it the speculator? Or is it the person who is willing to pay more than it's worth?

There is a lot of regulation that needs to happen. But we need to get the hell off of fuel if we want true freedom.

[bill for obama]

24. I really don't mean to make this complicated - but it is

Chevron owns significant refining facilities so does Union 76 -
and they sell to most discount chains too!

And oil can only be refined according to its gravity - so oil coming from mexico will not run in facilites designed to run saudi or south american crude - if the gravity is different - if that is clear.

And not to be cold or anything - but if you have a job and have to get to work - what do you do? Quit because you don't want to drive a car (more likely you can't afford the gasoline) - that doesn't work!!

[Captain Angry]

26. My point wasn't to stop driving on Tuesday.

It's that we need to be making serious investment in getting off of fuel. I realize people need to get to work. Rather than give away the free tax money we've been giving away, we should have been spending bigtime on mass transit and building a national electric grid. Hopefully in 2009 we'll start making some real moves.

We're stuck with oil for now, and if we make some structural decisions don't have to be stuck with it later.

Yes, XOM has competition, and none of the competitors are very easy to like. I realize there are more intricacies between the oil types and processes, but when it comes down to it, if we pick one company not to like, it doesn't fix anything.

[bill for obama]

28. Oh - you misunderstand - I agree with you in principle -

I think you post was very intelligent.

And I think we were as a nation so let down by people entrusted to run our most sensititve industries - so by all means, I think they should be taught a lesson - in "responsible capitalism"

I just want it shoved up the right butt.

[newmajority]

27. I've boycotted EXXON since they fucked up Alaska

And there hasn't been a Mobil station in this town for years. I don't think there are any EXXON stations left around here either..... they couldn't make any money in this town, thank God

[femrap]

29. haven't bought gas from them since

The Valdez.

[beevul]

30. Nationalize oil NOW.

They stomp on our freedoms where it concerns us peons in the name of security.

They can damn well stomp on the freedoms of the oil companies, in the name of national security.

[Fountain79]

31. Why are people honestly talking about this?

Seriously.....Exxon/Mobile is the only problem? So am I assuming companies such as Citgo are showing much lower gas prices because they are owned by the Venezuelan Government?

It couldn't be worldwide demand. It couldn't be that the dollar has fallen which has caused oil to rise. It has to be those greedy, capitalists!

Seriously....can we move beyond these discussions already?

[mach2]

33. Scapegoats are like pet goats...they are readily available and adored by the intellectually inept.

:eyes:

[Phred42]

34. I've been going to CITGO for years

[NoGOPZone]

35. Great idea in theory

But it wouldn't accomplish much. Exxon is a vertically integrated member of a powerful oligopoly, with several goods and services sold at the retail and wholesale levels. You'd never get the price of their gas down to $2.00. They'd get out of the retail end long before that, and it would only make a dent in their bottom line with all the other ways they make money. It would have more of an effect on the independent owner who pays a fee to show the Exxon symbol. That owner would have to change affiliations or go out of business. The most effective thing would be to cut gas consumption as a whole. Unfortunately, the public seems to have little desire for that.

[defendandprotect]

36. I think we should move PAST OIL/GAS-GUZZLERS ---

Let's force government to start producing ELECTRIC CARS and subsidize both ends of this ---
manufacture and purchase!!!

More oil/more wars????

No thanks!!

[defendandprotect]

37. I never buy from ExxonMobil . . . I use Citco when I can . . . and I think many others feel

the same way --- in one area I visit there is an ExxonMobil station which has closed like four times
over past 10 years --- they keep re-opening it --
It's closed again now and has been for almost 6 months!

People continue to use Sunoco station across the street --- !!!

[Mudoria]

38. Use Chevron or BP when I possibly can.

I avoid Exxon/Mobil and Citgo. Exxon for the Valdez and Citgo so as not to enable the little fat guy in the red shirt in Venezuela.

[Virginia Dare]

39. I think we all need to stop driving our cars..

get out and walk or bike, those of us who are able. That's really the only good solution at this point. I don't see it happening though.

[libodem]

40. I believe CITGO is an alternative

[libodem]

41. I believe CITGO is an alternative

damn computer is running so slow. I thought it wasn't going to post. Now you can read me twice.

[kentuck]

42. An excellent idea !

It's true, we have to buy fuel. But we don't have to buy it from them. If we could get a national boycott against Exxon- Mobil, it could have an impact on bringing down the prices. First step, get the bumperstickers: BOYCOTT EXXON-MOBIL - BUY GAS ELSEWHERE or THINK BEFORE YOU PUMP.

[colonel odis]

43. i've been buying citgo for a couple of years.

anyone who hates bush as much as chavez does is my kind of guy.

[Fountain79]

47. I don't buy Citgo because it supports Chavez

he is trying to build a cult of personality and trying to become some kind of demagogue here in South America. Even liberal people I know down here don't like him.

[Dogtown]

44. Citgo

and nothing else.

[high density]

45. In Maine we have Irving Oil stations everywhere

Canadian gas. I like it, and they don't seem to be selling that E10 garbage either.

[Fountain79]

46. Canada is our largest oil importer anyway...

Why would it matter?