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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:24 AM
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McCain saber rattling against Cuba on my tee vee.
Edited on Tue May-20-08 10:28 AM by Mika
HE WILL NOT WAIT FOR A TRANSITION!

He will ACT to change the regime in Cuba!


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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:26 AM
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1. I wonder if anti Castro terrorists Posada, Bosch and Alvarez are there?
Fuck yeah!


Cuba: U.S. funneled money to dissidents
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/story/538918.html
The head of the U.S. mission in Cuba served as an emissary between a top dissident on the island and an exile militant from Miami serving time for weapons possession, the Cuban government announced Monday at a news conference aired live on Cuban radio.

Top Cuban officials released a series of e-mails, which they allege show that dissident Martha Beatriz Roque gets regular financing from Santiago Alvarez, the benefactor and friend of alleged terrorist Luis Posada Carriles. Alvarez's group, Fundación Rescate Juridica, also allegedly sent $200 a month to dissident Jorge Luis ''Antúnez'' García and another $2,400 to the Ladies in White dissident group.

The Cuban government says the U.S. government's top diplomat in Havana, Michael Parmly, was the person who helped carry the money to Cuba.

''We have obtained irrefutable proof about a qualitatively new event, different from the well-known and already denounced flow of financial and material support to the domestic counter-revolution from the U.S. government and its diplomats in Havana,'' said Josefina Vidal Ferreira, head of the North American desk of the Foreign Ministry. ``It is the unusual and scandalous fact involving the participation of diplomatic officials in the U.S. Interests Section in Havana as emissaries in the transfer of money from terrorists living in U.S. territory and counter-revolutionaries in Cuba.''

Alvarez is a real estate magnate who is serving a 30-month prison sentence for stockpiling weapons in South Florida. He was also sentenced in 2006 to 10 months in prison for refusing to testify against Posada, a longtime anti-Castro activist accused of planting bombs in Havana and plotting to kill Castro.

Posada currently faces no criminal charges and is free in South Florida.

The Cuban government claims Roque got $1,500 a month from Alvarez, and that e-mails show U.S. Interests Section chief Parmly served as an emissary between the two.

U.S. State Department spokeswoman Heide Bronke could not immediately be reached for comment.

The U.S. Interests Section in Havana issued a statement defending its support to dissidents.

''It is longstanding U.S. policy to provide humanitarian assistance to the Cuban people, specifically to provide assistance to families of political prisoners who are treated poorly by their own government. We permit U.S. private organizations to do so as well,'' the statement said.

``This assistance has no political purpose, but is intended to address the day-to-day needs of families who are struggling to survive in the current system. American diplomats are expected to abide by regulations implementing the Cuban embargo and other applicable laws relating to foreign assistance and U.S. foreign policy towards Cuba.''

Parmly is leaving the post after three years, the State Department confirmed last week.

One e-mail, the government said, shows Roque and her nephew in Miami referring to Parmly by the code name ``the little crib.''

'It's an e-mail from her nephew ... who confirms that he delivered `the letters' to 'La Cunita,' identified earlier as the chief of the U.S. Interests Section. Notice the manipulation of names,'' said Manuel Hevia Frasquieri, the director of Cuban State Security's Historic Investigations Center. ``It is not open language: `I gave him your letters, without any problem, at 11 a.m. La Cunita greeted me very effusively, with a hug and everything.'

'It is important to make clear that when these people refer to 'the letters' they're talking about money. This is part of the verbal code these counter-revolutionaries use to conceal this handling of dirty money.''

Roque allegedly wrote a secret letter of support to U.S. District Judge James Cohn, the federal judge presiding over Alvarez's case, and was upset when the original copy of the letter was lost at the U.S. Interests Section office in Havana, according to the e-mails.

''You can see where she understands the gravity of this relationship between the well-known terrorist,'' Hevia said.

Cohn reduced Alvarez's sentence from 46 months to 30 months when others tied to his case turned over 14 pounds of plastic explosives, 200 pounds of dynamite, 4,000 feet of detonator cord, 30 semiautomatic and automatic weapons, one grenade launcher and two handmade grenades, among other items.

Alvarez pleaded guilty in September 2006 to conspiring to possess illegal weapons in a 2005 criminal case unrelated to the firearms surrender. At his sentencing, he maintained that the weapons were meant to help battle Fidel Castro's totalitarian government -- not to harm the United States.



Can you image the backlash if the anti US detention/anti Guantanimo protests by Americans were contaminated by groups funded by terrorists like Bin Laden or governments that harbored and supported them like the Taliban?

This exactly the situation with Martha Beatriz Roque, and the "Ladies" In White, and their spouses - the '75' so called "dissidents" - who were convicted of conspiring and receiving payments from US based/harbored terrorists and the government that has declared itself the enemy of Cuba (the US gov.).



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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:33 AM
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6. I think Posada, Bosch, and Alvarez replaced some of McCains staffers.
Hey even terrorists are placed in higher esteem than lobbyists anymore.

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:26 AM
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2. oh crap, arrest these nutcases now.
Edited on Tue May-20-08 10:27 AM by alyce douglas
if we don't I bet another country will not take this shit anymore, we have war criminals in our midst. WAR CRIMINALS.
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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:27 AM
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3. here lemme join ya
:puke: :puke:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:28 AM
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4. Maybe the Viagra isn't working anymore.
I swear, seems like the only way these dried up old geezers can get it up is to rattle a saber and make like a tough guy. Perhaps it's because in private, their swordsmanship is - um - well, just a fond memory.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:30 AM
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5. He just declared war on Cuba if he becomes president.
This will unite the Cuban people. For sure.



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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:54 AM
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11. And some people here say they won't vote for the nominee... n/t
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:35 AM
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7. Did he just cede Ohio to the Dems?
Pro NAFTA in no uncertain terms. MORE TRADE AGREEMENTS! I whole heartedly support the continued export of American jobs. Thanks McCain.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:35 AM
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8. CAN WE PLEASE END OUR PRIMARY SO WE DEFEAT THIS MADMAN????
Edited on Tue May-20-08 10:35 AM by LSK
:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:09 AM
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12. Plenty of time, the more he speaks, the more we have to talk about
when the race is on. I still think this struggle between our two great candidates is going to make the race with McCain look just silly. He is just an old man with very old ideas, at a time when this country sees it needs to change. Start framing your come backs, the season will be open soon.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:38 AM
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9. He gave kudos to Brigade 2506 members who took part in the US terrorist attack on Cuba.
Edited on Tue May-20-08 10:40 AM by Mika
The Cuban exile Bay of Pigs invaders.

Some links here.


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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 10:53 AM
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10. He said that Columbia is a "beacon of hope"
A beacon of hope to what? Fascism? Columbia is a beacon of corruption, of death squads, of narcoterrorism, of intimidation by the ruling elite. How can someone like McCain categorically have views that are the very opposite to the ones we need in a President? It's like some kind of mirror world where everything is the reverse of what it should be.
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:37 AM
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13. Unfortunately, Barack and Hilary feel the same way !
Not too much difference when it comes to foreign policy.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 11:44 AM
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14. Uribe has attacked Obama in the press
Both Obama and Clinton came out against Bush's Free Trade Agreement proposal with Columbia. Obama opposed it, giving as one of his reasons the violence being perpetrated by the Columbian government against trade unions in that country. I can't say I'm completely familiar with all statements made by Obama or Clinton on the subject of Uribe and Columbia, but I think there are real differences with the positions of McCain.
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