ITS TIME TO BOYCOTT

[luckyleftyme2]

I have received several e-mails the last few days requesting me to boycott exxon/mobil
fossil fuel products. the reason being they continue to reap enormous profits with no cap on prices on the horizon.
we did this in maine with cb radios in the past. it worked !
THIS IS WHY THIS BOYCOTT WILL WORK: ITS NOT ONE DAY A WEEK; ITS FOR A DOLLAR A GALLON DROP IN PRICES. THE CHEAPEST GAS IN MY AREA IS $3.649 AND UNTIL IT IS DOWN TO $2.649 I WILL BOYCOTT EXXON/MOBIL PRODUCTS.(MY VEHICLE RUNS FINE ON INDEPENDENT FUEL)
What we as consumers have to remember is our pocket book sets the bottom line. not big oil!
so for our tongue tied leader who couldn't respond to that snake oil sheik of saudi arabia
let us all respond for him:WHERE'S YOUR USA CUSTOMERS NOW!
PLEASE JOIN ME AND THOUSANDS OF OTHERS IN BOYCOTTING EXXON /MOBIL OIL COMPANY.

[NightWatcher]

1. haven't we shattered the "boycott bubble"? they dont work

especially when milions of people rely on the product everyday.

I applaud your effort, but you cant hurt them. They made BILLIONS in profit last quarter

[luckyleftyme2]

4. THATS A LIE

THEY DEFINETLY WORK IF YOU DO IT! ITS MY BOSSES BIGGEST FEAR!

[Freddie Stubbs]

11. Which oil company boycotts have worked?

:shrug:

[Old Codger]

28. if

You can get enough people to cooperate and pick one oil company AND STICK WITH IT it will work, you take them down one at a time..And I do mean take them down... we are talking no one whatsoever buys that companies gas.. won't take long to get their attention.

[MonkeyFunk]

41. how will it work?

if they drop the price a nickel below the station across the street, people will flock there.

[hokies4ever]

55. Why would they drop the price a nickel

when they could all just agree to raise prices and reap the rewards? That's part of the reason why the gas tax holiday was a dumb idea. If they won't even bother to lower the price a few cents to get more customers, why would they pass on the savings to the consumers. Oil company execs want to make money not give it away.

[ClassWarrior]

79. They don't need to generate demand. They've got a needle in our collective arm.

They'd rather have good, steady, high-ticket sales, rather than having to deal with the hassle of "a flock" for less money.

NGU.

[squawk7700]

35. Then your boss is nuts.

...

[Virginia Dare]

22. The last time the oil company executives were hauled before Congress..

one of those assholes actually taunted Americans, dared them to cut their consumption. I wish we would take him up on it.

[WillParkinson]

2. Check out Snopes.com

They've talked about this already.

[mpalluzzi]

3. I haven't bought gas from exxon in years and I never will. n/t

[luckyleftyme2]

6. WAY TO GO

WAY TO GO. DON'T FORGET YOUR POCKET BOOK WALKS THE YELLOW PAGES!
GETTING PLENTY OF PLAY ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. REMEMBER YOU DO MSAKE A DIFFERENCE!

[EstimatedProphet]

20. WHY THE HELL ARE YOU YELLING AT EVERYONE?

IS SOMEONE JACKHAMMERING IN YOUR APARTMENT OR SOMETHING?

Really. Calm down.

[City of Mills]

26. Oil Boycotts are like crash diets

THEY DONT WORK! Only a sustained lifestyle change will work. Drive less. Move closer to work. Can't afford to? Maybe you can't afford NOT to! If we don't sacrifice then we can't complain.

[squawk7700]

40. That must be the reason they're bankrupt.

:eyes:

[mmonk]

5. Too many people still won't change habits and propaganda is high.

The high prices today aren't as market driven as much as deregulation and speculation are really driving it.

[luckyleftyme2]

7. FALSE

NO SALE NO PROFIT! YOUR POCKET BOOK MAKES THE BOTTOM LINE!

[mmonk]

10. While that is true, it's false to garner hope that people

will stop using their cars enough and universally enough to make an impact. Millions have their cars as the primary mode of transportation to work everyday not even counting foreign customers of Exxon/Mobil and others. But if you have enough power to pull it off more power to you.

[mmonk]

12. What about this:

Educating people, organized requests to congress and legislatures to do something, and organized trucking strikes and shutdowns?

[luckyleftyme2]

14. THE ONLY THING DRIVING THE MARKET IS GREED

WE ALL KNOW SUPPLY AND DEMAND AS WELL AS THE GOING PRICE IS THE HIGHEST YOU CAN RECEIVE AND STILL MOVE THE PRODUCT.
WHAT WE FORGET IS OUR POCKET BOOK OVERRIDES BOTH OF THESE PRODUCING THE ADDITIVE=
THE BOTTOM LINE!

[squawk7700]

36. Stop SHOUTING, asswipe.

jeezus...

[luckyleftyme2]

52. HEY SQUAWK

OUTSIDE OF THE CAPITALS TO GET YOUR ATTENTION DO YOU HAVE AN INTELLIGENT COMMENT?
I haven't seen one yet

[blondeatlast]

71. I'd call the police about those noisy neighbors! nt

[MiniMe]

8. I haven't bought Exxon since the Valdez, unless there was no choice.

A few times, I haven't had much of a choice. Its usually when travelling.

[Freddie Stubbs]

9. A boycott will only work if you boycott ALL oil companies

Reducing demand will reduce prices.

[luckyleftyme2]

15. THATS NOT TRUE

THEY MAY UNLOAD THEIR PRODUCT SURPLUS TO ANOTHER BUT THEIR IS NO PROFIT IN THAT.
SHELL WAS FORCED OUT OF MAINE IN CB RADIO DAYS WHEN A FISH SPOTTING PLANE SEE THEIR TANKERS OFF SHORE DURING A SHORTAGE IN THE 70'S.
IT WAS BOYCOTTED TILL IT LEFT.

[Freddie Stubbs]

27. Shell is still in Maine and three of its stations have the second highest priced gas in the state:

http://www.mainegasprices.com/

[luckyleftyme2]

32. YES AND SHELL CAME BACH TO NAINE AFTER BUSH TOOK OFFICE FOR SECND TERM

IF YOUR GONNA POST DO YOUR RESearch stubbs

[Dr.Phool]

43. If you're going to post, learn to spell. Or type.

[luckyleftyme2]

69. sorry

was in a hurry didn't use spell ck. most of my errors are typos my brain moves much faster than my pecking fingers. I do hope you got the message.
and you really don't have the space or time to write all the background but simply a brief of your need.
I know this works because it was done in maine with cb talk and letters to the editor.
you know maine has many movers and shakers from all walks of life who own summer homes here. Including the presidents family. some of these people are connected to the oil industry.
so please help establish that every business is dependent on happy customers.and happy customers are not overcharged!

[Freddie Stubbs]

90. Are you saying that consumers dropped their boycott of Shell becaue Bush started his second term?

:shrug:

[MonkeyFunk]

42. Why are you yelling?

Please turn off your capslock. It just makes you look like a bigger idiot.

[Richardo]

65. Heh. "Bigger"

:)

[NJmaverick]

13. If you want to hurt the oil companies cut back on your consumption

Walk or Ride a bike where practical. Take mass transportation. Get a scooter or motorcycle. Make sure your next car gets good economy. Takes steps to improve the fuel efficiency of your current vehicle.

1) Make sure your tires are properly inflated. Under inflated tires can be a significant drag on your fuel economy.

2) Empty that trunk- All that extra weight costs you at the pump

3) Try to use the brakes less- In other words roll to stops, rather than braking when you get to them

4) Slow down- Wind resistance goes up exponentially, so the faster you go on the highway the lower the economy

5) In the warmer months open the windows when you first get in the car, to let the hot air out. Then let close them and let the AC cool the car down. This will take some of the load off the AC (which drains your fuel economy). On the highway though, it's better to use the AC than to leave the windows open (despite what you might has seen on myth busters, unfortunately in that challenge their lack of an engineering background showed).

6) You can get a roughly 5% boost in you efficiency if you use the oil additive Tufoil http://www.tufoil.com/ . I have been using the stuff for decades. It's the only additive that uses Teflon (this is hard stuff to work with, which is why others don't use it). I first started using it after a college professor talked about it, he knew the guy that invented the stuff. It's also good for extending the life of your engine.

7) Consider a hybrid for your next vehicle purchase (especially if you do a lot of city driving).

8) Don't idle- If you are going to idle for more than 2 minutes, shut off the car

9) Try to bunch your errands together- A warmed up engine is more efficient than a cold one. So try and do your driving errands all together so that you maximize the amount of time you are driving with a fully warmed up engine.


10) Consider walking, public transportation, motorcycle or bicycle where possible. All are more efficient alternatives. The more each of us save, the better off we all are.

11) Easy on the gas peddle. The faster you accelerate the more fuel you consume.

[luckyleftyme2]

16. VERY GOOD IDEAS

BUT I will only add them to my boycott! we have let this rip off go on long enough. its effecting food,school budgets etc. its spawned by fear like the saudai prince said wheres my customers?
well here's his answer: ALOT LESS IN THE USA!

[luckyleftyme2]

17. PLEASE KICK THIS MESSAGE

WE CAN EFFECT THE PRICE AT THE PUMP BY BOYCOTTING EXXON/MOBIL!
YES WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!

[A HERETIC I AM]

18. You realize you're talking to maybe 5000 people, tops, don't you?

Probably not even that many. The thread has had less that 250 views so far. So maybe three or four thousand have seen your subject line.

A boycott is not necessary. Simply driving less and using less will do the trick.

And using ALL CAPS does not make anyone take you more seriously.

[luckyleftyme2]

57. caps work here

I realize that only a small percentage of the population are reached here but they have access to many. I have been posting in several state threads as well as other blogs so haven't bothered to spell ck. most are typing errors. but only small minds miss the message and to me they can't be reached in time.
its better to try then to succumb so now its your personal choice.

[sharp_stick]

19. ONLY IF YOU STOP YELLING!!11!!1

enough already

[NuttyFluffers]

109. the cap lock, it hurts my tender ears

:7

[melm00se]

24. motorcycle

10) Consider walking, public transportation, motorcycle or bicycle where possible. All are more efficient alternatives. The more each of us save, the better off we all are.

Motorcycle MPG is difficult to get consistent numbers as, until recently, manufacturers didn't really publish them (as it wasn't really important).

However, this site: http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/MotorcycleFuelEconomyGuide/index.htm
provides both real world observed and tested/published MPGs

the range appears to be from the low 30's to over 100 mpg (YMMV depending upon your riding style, modifications, altitude and the like).

while bikes and scooters certainly carry some additional risk (mainly from cars - the HURT Report points out that the failure of motorists to detect and recognize motorcycles in traffic is the predominating cause of motorcycle accidents.), require different and far more defensive driving skills than in a car, they are extremely viable and cost effective modes of transportation, plus they are fun as hell to ride.

[DCKit]

31. Thanks Moosey! I've been looking for "real" moto mpg numbers for a long time. n/t

[Dr.Phool]

45. My Prius gets better mileage than my Harley!

But, the Harley is more fun.

[meow2u3]

76. Another tip: learn to drive, and get, a stick shift

Stick shifts have the advantage cars with automatic transmissions (slosh boxes) don't have: the ability to downshift to slow the car down without stepping on the brakes. Cars with slosh boxes are harder to slow down before a stop.

[PVnRT]

87. That's work. Slacktivism is much easier.

Gasoline will be distributed pretty much in proportion to market share, regardless of who you buy it from. It's fungible.

[OwnedByFerrets]

21. I have been boycotting Exxon since the

Alaskan incident and their poor ass response.

[EstimatedProphet]

23. It doesn't work. Period.

[luckyleftyme2]

25. IT NOT ONLY WORKS

ITS EXXON/MOBIL BIGGEST FEAR; KICK THIS MESSAGE IN YOUR STATE FORUM!
REMEMBER NO CONSUMER NO PROFIT;NO PROFIT NO INVESTORS.NO INVESTORS NO COMPANY

OF COURSE IT WORKS AND IT WILL WORK BECAUSE WE SINGLED OUT A SINGLE SUPPLIER AND THIS WILL EFFECT THE WHOLE INDUSTRY.
BY SELECTING ONLY ONE SUPPLIER IT IS NO HARDSHIP ON THE INDIVIDUAL TO MAINTAIN THIS BOYCOTT.
KICK THE MESSAGE -THEY ARE ALREADY TAKING A LOOK AND TRYING TO FIGURE A COUNTER MEASURE.
WHO KNOWS THEY MAY EVEN BE USING THIS THREAD WITH NAY SAYERS.
HAVE A GOOD DAY!

BOYCOTT EXXON /MOBIL TILL THEIR PRICES ARE ONE DOLLAR A GALLON LOWER THAN TODAY!

[EstimatedProphet]

33. NO! IT DOESN'T WORK!

GAS COMPANIES THAT DON'T SELL ALL THEIR GAS SELL IT TO OTHER GAS COMPANIES! THE ONLY WAY IT WOULD WORK IS IF OTHER GAS COMPANIES JOIN IN THE BOYCOTT! THEY WON'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT MAKES NO BUSINESS SENSE FOR A BUSINESS TO BOYCOTT ANOTHER BUSINESS!

BOYCOTT EXXON ALL YOU WANT. IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO ME. IT WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE TO THEM EITHER. THE ONLY WAY TO IMPACT THEY SYSTEM IS BY ACTIVELY REDUCING YOUR OWN GAS USAGE.

PLEASE DON'T TRY TO IMPLY THAT I AM AN AGENT OF THE OIL COMPANIES EVER AGAIN.

WHY ARE YOU YELLING?

[squawk7700]

38. He's well into the screaming stage...poo flinging can't be far behind.

:shrug:

[luckyleftyme2]

64. hey genius

we already covered that;the profit margin is dismal when you sell to another company.
think about this cause this is how it happens.
you make or buy gas for $1.00 gallon you sell it to a wholesale tank farm(which you own the tank in) they sell it to a hauler(which you own) who delivers it to a convenience store you own who sells it to a customer for now as it passes through each hand lets say the price increases by .15 cents per gallon and you keep a nickel of this. this would amount to .15cents a gallon more after all your costs or double the profit if you only sold once to another company who would probably give you less than the.15cents.
believe me the convenience stores in reality have the least mark up in the chain sales.
the profit to the parent company is huge!

[EstimatedProphet]

80. So all the government agencies are going to boycott Exxon?

All the industrial users too? How do you propose getting them involved? The consumer market for gasoline is only a small part of the pie for Exxon or any other gas company. They could, and would, absorb the brunt of a boycott, and even if it had an impact, they know they could turn it around by simply charging a nickel less than the other guy. Is all of this work supposed to drop the prices a nickel? Because that's the most that will happen. Your argument that we will have a real impact on gas prices is simply not valid. Oil companiesare not grocery stores. they are heavily diversified, and if they need to shift efforts to stay in business they will do so. What you are talking about is like trying to drop prices for all food by boycotting the sale of tomatoes at one grocery store.

And thank you for recognizing my genius!

[luckyleftyme2]

67. oh by the way

I didn't single anyone out do you have a guilty conscience or just lack of facts. since I don't need capitals to get this off the ground and I have a couple of minutes to respond. where did you come up with this accusation ? are you paranoid or simply forgot to take your chill pill?
your hardly in a position to accuse.

[EstimatedProphet]

78. I am exactly in a position to accuse

WHO KNOWS THEY MAY EVEN BE USING THIS THREAD WITH NAY SAYERS.

Your words, and they are directed at every single person who has disagreed with you on this thread. We all know exactly what you meant.

[blondeatlast]

73. The damn neighbors are fighting yet again--give luckylefty a break, EP...

:rofl:

[havocmom]

29. Problem with a fuel boycott: you still eat and food takes fuel to make and move

so? Knock yourself out, but don't expect to see Big Oil of any brand run up a white flag.

[luckyleftyme2]

39. kick the message

THE BOTTOM LINE IS ALWAYS SET BY THE CONSUMER. NO CONSUMER NO PRODUCT. PRICES TO HIGH ANOTHER DOG EATS AT YOUR PLATE.
YOU COMPENATE GREED WTH ACTION. NO ACTION GREED CONTINUES ONLY BOLDER.YOU SET AN EXAMPLE OTHERS FALL IN PLACE.
A WISE PIECE OF ADVICE GIVEN CENTURIES AGO."YOUR PURSE " IS YOUR BEST FRIEND.
USE YOUR MONEY WISELY; IT'S MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE THAN YOUR VOTE!

BOYCOTT EXXON/MOBIL THEIR ALREADY ALERTED TO THIS THREAD.

[havocmom]

44. So, you grow every bite you eat? Because if you don't, you aren't boycotting

And STOP THE FUCKING YELLING!!!!11!! WE'RE SERIES!1!!!1!

It is doubtful any of the realistic posters in this stupid thread are agents of EXXON/Mobil. I recommend a switch to de-caf, at the very least.

RIGHT NOW!!!!1!!11!!!!!!

[luckyleftyme2]

50. WELL MOM

I GOT YOUR ATTENTION. now tell me has your food budget gone out of sight? I'm retired and love to fish. my boat has a 90 hp engine. gas on the lake is 4.60 a gallon.
I plant a small garden,always have. I have a freezer,pick berries in season,wife makes jams and jelly. I make my own maple syrup from trees I TAP. YOU might say I'm a typical rural person. EXCEPT I've worked on several cutting edge projects such as nuclear plants,niki missle sights ,interstate bridges, sac airbases etc. probably exposed to more business and government people than your average person. been kissed and hugged by a senator,had letters of graditude from two governors and the sect. of the navy. ya I been there and done that a lot. I use to raise my own pig,bull and chickens but that was years ago.
well believe me I personally think this boycott will work. If you isolate a problem than
you can rectify it. so please KICK THE MESSAGE!

BOYCOTT EXXON/MOBIL TILL THE PRICES DROP ONE DOLLAR A GALON BELOW TODAYS PRICES.

[havocmom]

54. I also garden and have long advocated others do the same

Live in cattle country and have friends who produce grain/meat products. I know a bit about what it costs them (fuel being highest consideration) to produce food and ship it. So, I KNOW a few people boycotting one company is NOT gonna make a tinkers damn of difference. All you boycotting people STILL uses fuel, whether you have a car or not. If you eat, you are paying BIG OIL, unless you produce every single morsel you consume.

Same with clothes on your back. Unless you grow the fiber, spin, weave, sew, or run around naked, you use fuel

Boycotts like this don't work because NONE of us are independent from the need to transport goods.

There are troops in Iraq reporting of materials being tossed into heaps and set afire... with FUEL so the contractors can order new materials and get paid more from DOD. You can boycott all you want, but your tax dollars are also buying fuel.

Not much of a boycott, except to make the delusional THINK they have the problem solved.

They are yukking it up in the board rooms about 'boycotts'

[luckyleftyme2]

77. ITS OBVIOUS YOUR SINCERE

Its obvious your sincere. when I was in the military years ago 10,000 gallons of fuel was dumped and burned so the next years budget wasn't cut. This type of action goes on today in business as well as government. some say its our genes reverting to protection of territorial rights.
the fact is you take on the biggest to bring the rest into line. it does make a difference. if you lower the price of fuel by a dollar you have cut transportation costs by 25%.

we all use fuels to heat our homes, get to work ,do our grocery shopping. but none of us can tighten our belt to adjust for the man made price rise we've had the last three years.
but collectively we can force a reduction of the greed in this industry. because at least half of the price increase has nothing to do with supply and demand.

[nykym]

30. I don't buy Exxon/Mobil

Haven't for quite a while, my gas money goes to Hugo through Citgo if I have to pay might as well send it somewhere that pisses off the disadministration. As for the boycott why do people say it won't work? What have THEY got to loose buying gas from another company?

[treestar]

34. Boycotting the most profitable companies

Actually could do some good. I remember being convinced by that argument. There could be some downward pressure on prices (though it could develop lines at the other stations).

We can't boycott gas, due to our lifestyle, at least not without major adjustments. Boycotting the two most profitable companies could force them to lower prices. But we'd have to herd the cats to stick to it.

[aikoaiko]

37. unless people actually reduce usage, it won't work --- its a zero-sum game

If you don't buy 1 million gallons of gas from exxon, but still buy it from someone else, then that someone else still needs to buy more which means demand stays the same overall.

[luckyleftyme2]

47. NEGATIVE

CONSUMPTION CAN REMAIN THE SAME IN THIS CASE AS WE ARE BOYCOTTING A COMPANY. THE LARGEST IN THIS FIELD. WE ARE SENDING A MESSAGE= WE WILL NOT ALLOW GREED TO SET THE PRICE OF A PRODUCT. YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN IF YOU ARE BUYING INTO THE MEDIA RHETORIC. JUST LOOK AT SUPPLY ,OUTPUT AND NEED. USA BIGGEST PROBLEM IS REFINERIES. NOT SUPPLY.
DO YOU KNOW THAT IRVING OIL OF CANADA SUPPLIES FUEL FOR CALIFORNIA BECAUSE THEIR REFINERIES ARE BETTER SUITED TO MEET CALIFORNIA'S REQUIREMENTS? AND THAT REFINERY IS OVER 3,000 MILES AWAY? GUESS WHO'S BUILDING ANOTHER STATE OF THE ART REFINERY. YUP YOU GUESSED IT IRVING OIL OF CANADA.
FACTS ARE THEIR IS NO SHORTAGE JUST A PRODUCT WHO'S PRICE HAS BEEN DRIVEN UP BY FEAR AND GREED.
LIKE THE SAUDI PRINCE SAID SHOW ME THE CUSTOMERS AND I'LL PRODUCE MORE. DUH!

[aikoaiko]

88. I understand why lucky left you and you're reduced to cap locks on this forum.

[Zuiderelle]

46. Is your CAPS LOCK stuck?

[luckyleftyme2]

48. NO

IT GOT YOUR ATTENTION; NOW KICK IT IF YOU WANT TO LOWER PRICES BACK TO NORMAL.

[Zuiderelle]

49. Yes, let's kick this and magically, oil prices will drop. YAY

[luckyleftyme2]

51. TAKE AWAY THE CONSUMER

COMMON SENSE TELLS YOU IF YOU HAVE NO CONSUMER YOU HAVE NO PRODUCT.
SO PLEASE KICK IT. I ALSO LIKE PELOSI BUT WISH SHE WAS MORE AGGRESSIVE!

[Zuiderelle]

58. YOU ARE RIGHT, I WILL STOP EATING AND USING HEAT AND MOWING MY LAWN TOO

AND EVENTUALLY FUEL COMPANIES WILL SHRIVEL UP AND DIE AND THE WORLD WILL BE A BETTER PLACE FOR ME FOR YOU FOR EVERYONE KUMBAYA

[luckyleftyme2]

61. thats far from the message

my are you sure your not an elected official? that is far from the message I am sending.
most know we are stuck with fossil fuel for a few more years. all of us know we are not moving fast enough to find alternative affordable methods. we are hindered by the status quo as well as big oil.
but if your going to fight a battle you don't pick the weakest foe;BUSH has shown us that is a failure. by bringing the biggest fish into tow they all will comply.
so I'll count you as satisfied with the fuel prices. maybe when you grow up get a vehicle,a family and a job you'll have a better understanding of life.
have a nice life and learn chinese!

[Zuiderelle]

62. Thanks for taking the CAPS off. It's distracting to try to have a discussion with someone who yells

[LSK]

53. I have boycottted them for 3 years, wheres the progress???

If you want a boycott, GET A MORE FUEL EFFICIENT CAR.

Its the only way.

[havocmom]

56. Exactly! I haven't bought from them since that little tanker 'whoopsie'

and they don't seem to have noticed. For me, I know my refusal to buy is a moral choice that has NO impact on EXXON.

[luckyleftyme2]

59. thats great

now have you expressed to others and tried to make them see your point? my journey is simply to pass on to others what others have relayed to me. these e-mails I received came from several states from people I knew didn't know each other. So I know that the message is circulating. thats how I got interested in hurrying the message along.
I know it can work. and I know it doesn't take any great effort to use a different brand of fuel.

[havocmom]

85. You do realize just about every reply here has been to show you why it doesn't work?

Gads, diamonds are NOT the hardest common substance. There are denser things about.

[Burma Jones]

60. Haven't bought from Exxon since the Exxon Valdez oil spill

Haven't bought Mobil since the merger.

Big Fucking difference that makes.......but I feel a little better anyway.

Oh, lay off the caps lock, please.

[livetohike]

81. Same here n/t

[otherlander]

63. I only buy gas from Citgo.

Er... only bought gas from Citgo. Back when I had a car. Now I don't buy gas from anywhere.

[dkofos]

66. I haven't bought gas from exxon mobil stations since the 70's.

That does not mean I haven't bought gas that exxon/mobil refined.

[tkmorris]

68. Snopes link, and why it won't work

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp

Refute that, and do it without yelling, and then we can go from there.

[luckyleftyme2]

70. I'm not interested in negativity

And JUST FOR YOU I'LL RETURN TO CAPITALS TO RESPOND. I KNOW FOR A FACT IT HAS WORKED IN THE PAST. IN MAINE A PILOT HIRED BY FISHING VESSELS TO SPOT SHRIMP SPOTTED TANKERS OFF THE MAINE COAST DURING A SO CALLED SHORTAGE. GB ENTHUSIASTS AND LETTERS TO LOCAL PAPERS AND CALLS TO TV STATIONS CREATED A GROUND SWELL THAT COULD NO LONGER BE DENIED.(THE PICTURES WERE WORTH A ZILLION LIES)
WHEN YOU DECIDE TO ATTACK A PROBLEM YOU LOOK FOR THE BIGGEST PROBLEM AND BEGIN THERE.
SINCE EXXON /MOBIL POSTED THE LARGEST PROFIT OF ANY AMERICAN COMPANY TILL NOW THIS IS WHERE YOU SHOULD BEGIN.
WE ALL KNOW COMPANIES NEED TO MAKE PROFITS, BUT LEFT UNCHECKED THEY WILL DRIVE UP THE COSTS TO INCREASE PROFIT. THIS IS WHAT IS BEING DONE IN THE INDUSTRY. THERE IS AMPLE SUPPLY
RIGHT NOW BUT THE REFINERY END NEEDS IMPROVEMENT. SPECULATION IS DRIVING COST WHICH INCREASED PROFIT.

[ProfessorGAC]

72. Finally, You Seem To Have Gotten It

The dual-edged market system in which both raw materials and finished goods are sold as speculatable commodities is what is really driving up prices. You said that in your last sentence.

Well, boycotting one supplier will not change the behavior of the speculators who, you yourself admit, are the real problem. If the problem is speculation, we have to boycott the entire microeconomy of fuel. Targeting one company is valueless, as long as the "real problem" is unaffected.

Left yourself twisting in the wind now, haven't you?
The Professor

[blondeatlast]

74. Call the cops AGAIN on those neighbors--you have a right to peace and quiet. So do we... nt

[tkmorris]

75. Ya can't teach a pig to sing, can ya?

Funny thing is, I am in absolute agreement with you right up until the part where we decide what we can actually DO about high gasoline prices, and more specifically Exxon/Mobil. You have chosen a method, and have convinced yourself that it will work. You tune out any and all arguments why it will not, in favor of insulting the people who post them and shouting incessantly.

It's really rather pointless continuing this conversation. You aren't having one. Get back to me when you are actually willing to listen and consider the opinions of people who know at least as much about the topic at hand as you do. Until then you are just a juvenile having a tantrum, regardless of how noble your intentions.

[Freddie Stubbs]

105. So, you think that a boycott will improve the refineries?

:shrug:

[Zuiderelle]

82. LOL! 2001 and 2002 and 2004 and 2006. All the same claims about how a boycott like this WILL WORK.

:rofl:

It's almost like the trend of blaming gays for lost elections. 2002, 2004, 2006, and 2008.

[lame54]

83. I'm lucky enough to have a Citgo by my house

[DS1]

84. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT BUT I'LL MAKE DAMN SURE YOU ALL HEAR IT!!!!1

[Zuiderelle]

89. Holy shit, that's like a perfect summary of half the threads in GD:P

[kdmorris]

98. ROFL

That is hilarious!!! And very appropriate.

[NuttyFluffers]

110. ooooooff... the font volume, it overwhelms me.

cannot survive capitalization and fonts larger than 12. ;(

the words, they wound...

[cherokeeprogressive]

86. Every gallon of gas you DON'T buy, will be sold in China or India.

Thus making YOUR price that much more expensive.

Good thinking.

[FreeState]

91. GLBT groups have had a boycott on them for over 10 years n/t

[Freddie Stubbs]

94. How effective has that been?

:shrug:

[FreeState]

97. Not very - but its gratifying to me to not shop there :) n/t

[kerry-is-my-prez]

92. People need to get rid of their SUVs, start carpooling, using public transport., walking, biking.

I'm one of the few people who thinks that the gas prices aren't totally horrible. I do feel for the people who are barely making it financially who HAVE to drive because they don't have the option to take public transportation but for the people who have SUV's to be "fashionable" and Hummer's - I don't have an ounce of sympathy.

Used to live in Chicago and walked/biked everywhere and took public transportation. When I moved there, I had a car and never used it.

[Initech]

93. They still have military, commercial and airline customers.

We alone will not make a dent in their profits.

[Jed Dilligan]

95. I haven't given them a penny in my life

The Valdez incident occurred shortly before I started driving, and I have never ever gone to an Exxon station to buy anything.

[Angleae]

96. So basically you want exxon to sell gas as a loss

[Wizard777]

99. I'm still boycotting from the Valdez spill.

Run full page ads telling me not to bother with a boycott because Exxon doesn't need my money. Ooooookay, I'll hold them to that forever. Not one penny have I spent at an Exxon since then. Nor will I ever again.

[Freddie Stubbs]

100. Has your boycott worked yet?

:shrug:

[mdmc]

101. why wouldn't mobil exxon just sell the fuel to China and India

the only way out of this is to reduce our fuel consumption. The idea that we can continue to drive SUV's and pay little for gas is flawed.

I will support a boycott of mobil/exxon, but it will not change a thing. Mobil/exxon is an international company that offers a product that is in high demand worldwide.

[Freddie Stubbs]

103. Many people want a simple solution rather than changing the way they live

[Freddie Stubbs]

102. Has your boycott casued Exxon/Mobil to drop its prices to below what others are charging?

:shrug:

[Honeycombe8]

104. Boycott what? Gasoline? No can do. I need it to drive to work. How can people do this?

If they can do this, then they are wasting gas to begin with. That's not a boycott....that's doing the right think and curbing one's USE of gasoline unnecessarily. I've already done that....years ago. 1975, I think it was, when I encountered my first long line at a gas station during a gasoline shortage (there wasn't really a shortage...it was manufactured).

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

106. In the area where I live, CostCo and Arco are always the cheapest

Mobil and Chevron are usually the most expensive. It isn't even necessary to boycott Exxon/Mobil. Instead of boycotting a brand, I want to encourage CostCo and Arco to open more gas stations when I give them all my business.

[sammythecat]

107. It won't do anything but hurt the "little guy".

The big oil companies won't feel a thing. Nothing at all. I appreciate the intention, but it won't do what you want it to do.

Here's what Snopes has to say about it: http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/nogas.asp

[MasonJar]

108. I haven't bought Exxon/Mobile since the Exxon Valdez debacle.

Do NOT boycott just never go back and encourage others to do the same. The company will eventually get the message.