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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:12 PM
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Did I catch this right? The Canucks denied entry to Powell due to their
own genocide and war crimes statues, as in Canadian Statues?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:14 PM
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1. Huh... Where did you hear that? Canadian/American here and never heard that.. n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:15 PM
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3. Malloy just said it
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:15 PM
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2. Philippe Sands says the international countries will do it
if we don't
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:16 PM
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4. Here is the link... will delete the other one
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:18 PM
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5. Here's a story on it (not sure he's actually been denied --
or if it's more like the group that tried to arrest Rumsfeld in France)

Legal group says Colin Powell is "inadmissable to Canada

A Vancouver lawyer has written to Canadian Immigration Minister Diane Finley urging her not to allow Colin Powell to enter Canada.

Powell, a former U.S. Secretary of State and retired U.S. general, is scheduled to speak in Vancouver on June 12 about leadership in the 21st century.

Gail Davidson, cofounder of Lawyers Against the War, wrote in her letter to Finley that Powell is “a person credibly accused of involvement in war crimes, crimes against humanity and grave human rights abuses including torture”, which makes him inadmissible to Canada.

“Colin Powell, as a member of the Bush administration, is accused of complicity in the most serious crimes known to the global community including: indiscriminant targeting and willfull killing of civilians, targeting and destruction of infrastructures necessary to life, illegal capture, detention and treatment of civilians, torture, subjecting prisoners to murder, cruel and inhumane treatment, illegal detention and transfer,” Davidson wrote in her May 15 letter. “Many scholars and jurists have called for prosecutions.”

In an address to the United Nations Security Council on February 5, 2003, Powell claimed that Iraq possessed “mobile production facilities” that could be used to manufacture chemical and biological weapons. He also claimed that Iraq was trying to obtain nuclear weapons and there were links between the government of Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.

Davidson’s letter cited Section 35 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, which states that a foreign national is inadmissible if this person has committed an act outside of Canada that is referred to in Sections four to seven of the Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act.

The section states that a person is inadmissible if he or she was a senior official in the service of a government that has engaged in terrorism, systematic or gross human rights violations, or genocide, a war crime or a crime against humanity.

In 2004, Davidson launched a private prosecution, laying seven torture-related criminal against U.S. President George W. Bush while he was on a state visit to Canada.

The charges against Bush were later declared a nullity by Provincial Court Judge William Kitchen.

http://www.straight.com/article-146338/legal-group-says-colin-powell-inadmissable-canada
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:21 PM
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7. More on this
PRESS RELEASE
Decision on Bush Torture Charges Reserved
November 29, 2005

__________________________


After a full day's hearing on November 25th 2005 Mme. Justice Deborah Satanove of the British Columbia Supreme Court reserved judgment on another government bid to stop Canadian proceedings against George W. Bush for torture.


Torture charges laid against Bush on November 30th 2004 by LAW were dismissed by a provincial court judge who ruled that Bush as U.S. President, was immune from prosecution under the criminal laws of Canada and the charges were a nullity. The Attorney General of Canada had not yet consented to prosecution when the charges were dismissed as a nullity on December 6th 2004.

http://bushprosecution.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=7

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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:23 PM
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10. Another bought and paid for Judge.... Harper would have been very displeased if this...
had gone otherwise...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:27 PM
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12. This is still in the courts if I read it correctly
and nulity is used for marriage, after a cursory search of Canadian Law


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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:20 PM
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6. Interesting note to all today... Crossed from the US into Canada....
Edited on Mon May-19-08 09:21 PM by LakeSamish706
for the very first time in all of my years of crossing, the Homeland Security had about 6 persons over on the Canadian side all with tools along the lineup of cars.... Have no idea what they were checking for, but they were getting under vehicles in the line and questioning some as well... I have been coming and going for probably 35 years and have never seen this before.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:22 PM
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8. CANADIAN or AMERICAN and they were looking for drugs
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:26 PM
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11. They were US border guards that were in the Canadian line of Canadians crossing...
back into Canada... It was about a 20 minute wait and like I said, I have never seen this happen before. Not ever have I seen the US on (of course US soil) but in the Canadian line up checking Canadians returning to Canada...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:28 PM
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13. Now that places an interesting spin on things
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:30 PM
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14. It was seriously kind of scary... Like I said, I have been a frequent border crosser...
for 35 to 40 years and we used to have some serious lineups (up to 2 to 4 hours in my crossing) and have never witnessed that before...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:34 PM
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16. The other border, and I saw some funny shit, but never
that... it makes me wonder if Canada under Harper wants to become a province of the US... bad sci fi comes to mind

Then again a lot of that bad sci fi is real now
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 10:02 PM
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19. The North American Union. nt.
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 01:53 AM
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21. Or he got an offer he couldn't refuse....
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2008/mar/102254.htm

On March 14, the Department of State issued a Presidential Permit authorizing TransCanada Keystone Pipeline LP to construct, operate and maintain facilities related to the Keystone crude oil pipeline project. The Keystone pipeline will extend 1,300 miles from the Canadian border through the U.S. Midwest. When fully operational, the Keystone pipeline is anticipated to increase U.S. oil imports from Canada by an amount equivalent to as much as 4.5 percent of total U.S. daily imports

See the route:
http://www.transcanada.com/keystone/

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:57 PM
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18. I see this all the time when I travel along the Southern border
maybe they are thinking that they will find Bin Ladin under those cars, eh?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:22 PM
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9. Bush and Cheney are technically inadmissible also
thanks to the 5 DUI's between them.

They had to get special permission to go. :eyes:
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Ytzak Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:31 PM
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15. If it happened there are no news stories about it.
I'll have to wait for official word.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-19-08 09:36 PM
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17. Links
Edited on Mon May-19-08 09:37 PM by nadinbrzezinski
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3311857&mesg_id=3311896

PRESS RELEASE
Decision on Bush Torture Charges Reserved
November 29, 2005

__________________________


After a full day's hearing on November 25th 2005 Mme. Justice Deborah Satanove of the British Columbia Supreme Court reserved judgment on another government bid to stop Canadian proceedings against George W. Bush for torture.


Torture charges laid against Bush on November 30th 2004 by LAW were dismissed by a provincial court judge who ruled that Bush as U.S. President, was immune from prosecution under the criminal laws of Canada and the charges were a nullity. The Attorney General of Canada had not yet consented to prosecution when the charges were dismissed as a nullity on December 6th 2004.

http://bushprosecution.org/modules/news/article.php?sto...


Remember the German prosecution didn't make it through the pond or into even the Wires, we had to go look for it
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Ytzak Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-20-08 12:32 AM
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20. Tanks for the Links
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