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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:04 PM
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NY Post gossip Cindy Adams says she has embargoed script of Oliver Stone's "W"
NY Post: FILM HAS A FEW WORDS ABOUT OUR PRESIDENT
Cindy Adams
May 13, 2008


Josh Brolin as President Bush.

....Here's Karl Rove making W. memorize answers, telling him, "Before you speak, come to me first. I'll tell you what to say." W. chiding late-arriving "Balloonfoot" Powell, saying military men should know about being on time. Rumsfeld, who's hard of hearing. W. happy when Cheney laughs at his cowboy-delivered twang. Cheney stepping in cow poop at Crawford. W. eating his favorite White House bologna sandwich lunch.

In all presidential erudition, telling Gen. Tommy Franks to be sure what he's doing: "I don't want to fire no $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the a - -." Then: "Americans don't like to see dead boys on their television sets." Telling education reformers: "Rarely is the question asked, 'Is our children learning?'"...

***

Flashbacks have college-boy W. boozing, slacking off from work, in jail, calling his then-congressman father "Poppy." Sr. praising Jeb, castigating Jr., asking if he's "knocked up" a girl named Susie, complaining, "You never kept your word once . . . you're only good for partying, chasing tail, driving drunk . . . You deeply disappoint me." Repeat father and son arguments. Father: "I've had enough of your crap." Son: "I've had enough of you for a lifetime." Mama Barbara breaking up the near fisticuffs with announcing Jr. just made Harvard and Sr. responding, "But who do you think pulled the strings?"...

***

There's Rove saying, "The polls have shot up to 80 percent behind the president. The American people want blood. They demand it." And Colin Powell: "This about politics or policy? I'm really confused. What're you doing in this room?"

In line with what Stone personally says about W.: "Limited ability except to promote himself," in one cocky flashback he guarantees he can fly a plane and then has trouble landing it. Page 50, asked if he loves his parents, he answers: "Most of the time. My father and I have a tough go . . . My mother says I'm as good as her at holding a grudge." After his father becomes president: "I'll never get out of Poppy's shadow. I wish he'd lost." After W. becomes president, his father saying, "I'm worried about him. Really worried. But you can't talk to him." And Barbara replying, "Well, he's not going to listen to me. He takes criticism worse than I do." And after Jr. knocks his father and shouts, "This is my war, not his," Condoleezza says: "We'll let him know that from here on out, he's persona non grata. No briefings, no nothings."...

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05132008/gossip/cindy/film_has_a_few_words_about_our_president_110584.htm?page=0
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:08 PM
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1. Can't wait to see it.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:09 PM
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2. sounds good, but Brolin is too manly and smart looking to be Bush
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:13 PM
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4. Sounds Oscar worthy, if Brolin can pull off playing a drunken monkey.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:26 PM
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6. you could probably get a close approximation of Bush if you gave a chimp cocaine & filmed him
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:54 PM
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20. Did Brolin drink a lot of Dirty Bananas to try and get into the part?
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:41 PM
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7. Josh has done some really good work
lately. Will be tough, but he might have enough ability to portray the monster.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:52 PM
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11. Ah, but James Brolin played Ronnie to Judy Davis's Nancy in The Reagans.
So for Brolin's son to play Spurious George is a neat way of showing that Bush's administration is heavily connected to Reagan's on an ideological level (even more than to his own father's).
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 03:03 PM
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12. actually, both show the problem with casting some real life figures
the real ones overshadow the actors chosen to play them.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 03:07 PM
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13. Really? I thought Timothy Bottoms was far superior to the original article in That's My Bush!
:D
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:45 PM
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17. the only thing I liked about Bottoms was they used him in that horrible 9/11 movie
that tried to make Bush look like a hero.

He was better than the real thing, which means he was too sympathetic, competent, etc.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:00 PM
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26. I am almost ashamed to say that I extraed in that movie. But it was reasonable money.
And Shirley Douglas, the daughter of the man in my avatar, played Madeleine Allbright. If the socialist activist daughter of the founder of Canadian medicare and old-age pensions (and mother of Kiefer Sutherland) can do it, I feel a bit less horrible as a result.

I liked That's My Bush because The Pretender King was nicely lampooned.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:53 PM
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32. I did like the aborted abortion rights leader
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:12 PM
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3. Brolin? Sorry, I'm not feeling it. Brolin's way more of
a man than should be playing W.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:25 PM
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5. my choices: crispin glover or this guy:
Leland Orser:
(usually plays sniveling whiney characters)



and Crispin Glover:
(could also do a decent Papa Bush)
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:46 PM
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8. Yeah, I've always thought Crispin Glover looks a lot like Poppy Bush.
Good call...
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:48 PM
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9. Poppy's looks, Baby's creepiness.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 02:50 PM
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10. George Bush, you....Goonie!!!!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 03:38 PM
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14. who's playing "I don't worry my pretty little mind" mommy bush? nt
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:02 PM
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15. Elizabeth Banks is Laura; James Cromwell is "Poppy," Ellen Burstyn is "pretty mind."


"Elizabeth Banks has starred opposite many a comedic leading man, including Steve Carell (The 40-Year-Old Virgin), Vince Vaughn (Fred Claus), Eddie Murphy (this summer's Meet Dave), and Seth Rogen (Kevin Smith's upcoming Zack and Miri Make a Porno). But now she'll soon get serious with her just-announced role as First Lady Laura Bush in Oliver Stone's biopic W. And while the amusingly ironic juxtaposition of Zack and Miri Make a Porno with a film about George W. Bush is not lost on Banks, the actress is much more focused on perfecting her interpretation of Mrs. Bush." (EW)

Entertainment Weekly's cover story: http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20198476,00.html

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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:05 PM
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16. James Cromwell as Poppy - too funny
He shows up to all the anti-war protests in L.A. - too brilliant!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:51 PM
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19. too nice! Maybe Jeff Daniels
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 04:49 PM
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18. I had these actors in mind for barbara bush:
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sammythecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:22 PM
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37. Yes!
That guy on the right. I don't know his name, but he was in one of the "Bourne" movies. There was a similar thread a few days ago and this is the guy I had in mind that should play Babs.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:22 PM
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38. The person who modeled for this gets my vote...
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:01 PM
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21. who's playing turd blossom? My choices:
Edited on Tue May-13-08 05:20 PM by yurbud
Phillip Seymour Hoffman, doing just a slight variation on his Truman Capote:



Comedian Larry Miller if he dyed his hair blonde:



Kathy Bates with a dye job and haircut since she played the same character in PRIMARY COLORS:



The ultimate though is Will Sasso from MadTV. He can do squishy smarmy and menacing:

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:29 PM
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23. British actor Toby Jones. Anyone have info? nt
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:02 PM
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27. He played Truman Capote in "Infamous"...I think he'll be just fine
Edited on Tue May-13-08 06:03 PM by FredScuttle
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:05 PM
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28. Thanks, Fred. He looks like a good character actor who can, indeed, do it. nt
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:56 PM
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33. no way! He played Capote too. He could just dust off that character to play Rove
He'd just have to crank up the bitchiness a bit.


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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:08 PM
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22. ANIMATION: problem with Josh Brolin as Bush
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:49 PM
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24. releasing a copy of the script to a gossip columnist? Stone's getting desperate
They want to make sure there is buzz on this before it opens so that another Oliver Stone movie doesn't find it's way into the crapper. Josh Brolin as W? Brolin may regret this mess. :shrug:
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:08 PM
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29. Cindy says it was hush-hush, embargoed --
"First-ever movie about a sitting president, shooting in Shreveport, La., is so hush-hush secret that all scripts are embargoed. Watermarked so that each is traceable.

So do not ask - do not - how one is now in my own sticky fingers. Do not ask. If I answered, which I won't, I'd have to lie. A supposed chronicle of his presidency, every scene or shard of dialogue is theoretically - if not proven fact - within the realm of repeated rumor. No imaginary scenes off the deep end. Stone's trying for legitimacy so he won't get pilloried. Or audited."
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 09:24 AM
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42. Hush hush doesn't mean put it on your column
Like I said -- Stone is DESPERATE for press on this movie. His last few endeavours tanked horribly. So now he uses a GOSSIP columnist to get *good BUZZ* going. :eyes:

PT Barnum would be proud :rofl:
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JimmyJubes Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:53 PM
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25. um
Who is Cindy Adams?
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 06:21 PM
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30. Hi, JimmyJubes -- welcome to DU! Cindy Adams has been writing a gossip column...
for the NY Post, a tabloid newspaper in NYC (tabloid-sized, and sensational, but a local paper and not to the low level of National Enquirer) for many years.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:43 PM
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31. "Humint"...
Page 42. Checking a map, being told it passed "Humint," whereupon the President of the United States asks, "What's 'Humint' again?" and being told "It's Human Intelligence."


:rofl:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 11:58 PM
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34. ''I thought it was the mint I et before I gave my frat brothers hummers''
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:10 PM
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36. Hahaaa! Like these...
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:43 PM
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41. I think I first heard about that in relation to Lewinsky
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:29 PM
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39. good lines...n/t
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 06:11 AM
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35. Fascism renders dramatization into non-credible satire
and is indistinguishable from any parody thereof.
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 01:31 PM
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40. Junior should be forced to watch this as part of his therapy
Even though I don't think he will ever face up to what he has been and what he has done, he should really watch this movie.
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