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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:15 PM Original message |
"Democrats always knuckle under" - How would you answer? |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'd agree with them. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. health insurers are in heaven with obama |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
56. They love Hillary too. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. With Obama I certainly agree-Corporate managers are happy no Clinton as they"can work with"O-Insurer |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. That's why I'm supporting progressive Democratic candidates |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. Very true. It's been a problem for a long time now. NT |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. Depends which kind of democrat you mean. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
111. And "Switched parties but not policies" We'll consider them to be |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
5. I would remind them that Democrats have been faced |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Good points. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Sorry, neither point convinces me. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
47. You hit the nail on the head with that one, Jack. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:32 AM Response to Reply #16 |
66. "Look ahead! Look ahead!" will be the prevailing mantra/directive/instruction |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Making Bush use that pardon again and again |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Look at Democratic primary voting numbers |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. You really believe that? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. I'll bet you $1000 right now that there will be no prosecution of either GWB |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I think enough of the underlings will be investigated |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. You mean like Gonzales? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #39 |
95. So we have no wager. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
109. "Hope springs eternal, you know." = battered-spouse syndrome |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
49. Nothing about pardoning his minions and cronies |
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curlyred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
6. In Colorado they DO knuckle under |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
50. Montana, too. I remember, about 18 years ago, being very involved |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
8. I'd say "f*ck them", while understandable, is not an option. |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. Blackmail and Death Threats |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. What you do: Win bigger majorities. Then elect better Democrats. |
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Habibi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
55. I agree. |
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joefree1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
13. Party of the Big tent |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
14. Can't find very much to disagree with there. |
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coriolis (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
15. I would say "Not True! ... sometimes we bend over!" |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
112. LOL You better get your asbestos suit on |
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T Monk (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
17. I'd say oh those are congressional democrats |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
20. It's a common statement by 1) wingers and 2) Democrats with self-esteem problems. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Lies, damned lies, statistics. |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 08:20 AM Original message |
How old are you, Perry? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
81. Thanks for the better response, very to the point. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
92. Amen!!! |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
97. Right ON! Excellent post! I wish I could recommend it. |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #20 |
78. dupe |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
22. I would say: "You're break's over, Ralph. Go back up front and greet the people." n/t |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
23. I'd scream "you're a....a.... bastard person!" and then cry and run away. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. LOL. Good one! |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
45. I hate you and your ass face! |
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otherlander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
24. The leadership does. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
25. Mr. Fish & I agree. |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I would reply... |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Hear, hear! |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
51. That's it! |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
26. The Feingold Resolution and the Sound of Silence |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
28. Sometimes Democratic voters need to stand strong too |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
53. I do agree with you that we need to elect more Democrats, regardless. |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #53 |
61. I'm not sure about the OP's friend's statement |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
29. What's to disagree with? |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
31. Changing the party always makes more sense than trying to start your own. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
32. No, they only do that when they haven't anihilated each other in a circular firing squad |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
34. This brought us Nixon, Carter (a great man, but no liberal), Raygun, |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
35. republicans have spine, democrats have brain and heart |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
37. I could do nothing but reluctantly agree with this person 100%. He is absolutely right. |
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Blarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
40. I agree. They cave every chance they have. |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
41. Difficult to criticise. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
42. I would say that's stating the obvious |
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KaptBunnyPants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
43. I would argue that the spineless faction of the Democratic Party seems to be losing influence. |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
44. Your friend has a point |
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samsingh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
46. we do |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
52. Could just be fear of losing again |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
54. I'd punch him in the fuckin head. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. That would totally win the argument. |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #54 |
82. With a knuckle sandwich? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
58. If you can't even BLOCK bad initiatives, you're useless |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
59. I say: "Stop expecting other people to do your work for you." If you want to win long term, here's |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-14-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #59 |
104. Hey, that's a great idea... |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-14-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. If you want change, work for change. Nobody said it would be easy |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 07:17 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Do you really not see the game is rigged, or are you just pretending? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Biko said, "The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed": |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. We're talking past each other. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
60. the battle |
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Freedom Train (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
62. How would I answer? |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:22 AM Response to Original message |
63. With a knuckle sandwich |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
64. Buckle like a belt, although I suspect it's due to institutional complicity, by design |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
65. I would ask him what good does the hyperbole do? |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:41 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Dissent is healthy. Mindless obedience and groupthink are trademarks of rightists |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:46 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. the dissent is what seems mindless to me |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:49 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. It's due to her stated "off the table" position in handling the crimes of Bushco, and Iraq |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:55 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. that's so weak you should be embarrassed |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 07:03 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. To reiterate, I find the commonly held sentiment understandable. No apology forthcoming |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 07:16 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. of course not |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 08:29 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Guess I'm unaccustomed to demands of an apology over opinions |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #79 |
85. Which is something that Democrats do too readily |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #72 |
93. ....... |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:38 AM Response to Original message |
67. Pelosi fighting right now on FISA |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #67 |
80. Good! Wonderful! Outstanding! |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #80 |
84. but when it does happen we don't support it |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
69. The question implies that Republicans are tough. If you think Repubs are tough, you're a pansy. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 07:05 AM Response to Reply #69 |
75. It's not a matter of cowardice, but complicity |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
73. true |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
77. That while they have a point, they're going to fail. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
83. Points for FISA and telcom immunity... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
86. I think that generally Democrats value long-term, viable results |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. A harmless little generality that anyone could agree with... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. And "Democrats always knuckle under?" is a specific question? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #88 |
100. If you go beyond the headline you find, yes, that there were specifics in the OP |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
89. It's their role |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
90. "How would you answer?" You Got That Right. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
91. Well since they have impeached bush and cheney, |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
94. "Democrats knuckle under and Republicans FUCK you over!" |
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zonmoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. I concur completely. |
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frogmarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
96. Congressional Dems are wusses. Too bad they |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
98. No real answer for that- because he's right |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
101. The answer: "You're right." |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-14-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
102. The writer of the OP is a she, by the way... |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-14-08 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
103. She's right. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
107. kick |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
113. two words joined together to make one: HORSESHIT |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-16-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Thanks for that, most edifying. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. indubitably. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-18-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
116. That's why we need *more* and *better* Democrats. |
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