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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 11:51 AM Original message |
Solar Power Isn't Feasible |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
1. thats what some say |
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newfie11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 05:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
30. It was interesting to see 400 year old homes in Germany with solar panels |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 07:31 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Not only that it would be interesting just to see 400 year old houses |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #30 |
65. Germany is 80% energy self-sufficient now, tx to govt. subsidies. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yep - and we could generate enough power from the Mojave Desert |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
55. I just spent 10 days traveling through... |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
3. There's a bylaw to the Laws of Physics that makes Solar infeasible in the US.... |
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ForeignSpectator (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Why, which bylaw would that be? |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 05:25 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. The "Laws of Physics are Subject to Politics" bylaw. Powerful, that one. |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:45 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Yep, it also bends probability and turns the near-impossible into the expected. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 07:35 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Yes it is, huh |
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ForeignSpectator (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 07:53 AM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Lol, I see... duh! |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
4. I had someone tell me recently that "we are decades away from usable solar power" |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Someone should tell Spain that |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I guess this person you talked to voted for Reagan in 1980, who promptly junked Carter's energy plan |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. yes. He also tried to defend Bush's legacy when I listed a long list of his "accomplishments" |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. And the Iranians are moments away from having nukes |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. I guess the mid eighties were technically decades ago. |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I'm not sure what your point is |
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liberalla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. "decades away from usable solar power?" |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 02:29 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. more profit in making new bottles. |
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liberalla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 04:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. That's something that would change if the govt. gets involved. |
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Mudoria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #25 |
43. You have some excellent ideas and many of these would |
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Revlon10 (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 05:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
28. I'm with you all the way |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:17 AM Response to Reply #16 |
32. working on it |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #16 |
51. Just throw a week's worth of "War on Terra" money at the problem |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
24. Carter pushed for it |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #24 |
58. I've been mulling over.... |
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bigmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #58 |
73. I read an amazing newspaper story on that, I think in the early 90s. |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #58 |
82. If they swapped brains with a jaybird |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #58 |
83. On a more serious note |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #4 |
53. Except for all those people who use solar power right now |
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crickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 06:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
84. Exactly. If only we had listened. If only the next president had followed through. |
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King Coal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
5. We use it all the time here. It works great. Hardware is expensive though. |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
8. Exactly right. Electric cars are not... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
9. What about waves? |
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BadgerKid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-12-08 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. "Since the beginning of time |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 05:41 AM Response to Reply #10 |
29. nicely played |
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liberalla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
15. and they don't own the wind either. |
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rabies1 (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #15 |
41. Is wind power cheaper than solar and more feasible? |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 08:15 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. it can be, yes. |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
17. Good post. |
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ForeignSpectator (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:01 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. LOL! n/t |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
18. GOP/Libertarian's favorite canard: everything is a commodity. n/t |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
22. K&R |
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ForeignSpectator (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 03:47 AM Response to Original message |
23. Not feasible my a&§! |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 05:14 AM Response to Original message |
26. Solar is the answer... |
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Ian_rd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
31. Oh damn that's good. |
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mcollier (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 06:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I wonder what that big a$$ International Space Station |
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Ian_rd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 07:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. "Solar Photons Set New Price Record" |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
38. That says it all. |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
40. Wait until these oil guys own water. ..n/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #40 |
49. And they are busily working on that... part of the WTO charter, isn't it? |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #40 |
50. hell...wait until they own clean air... |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #50 |
69. What clean air? n/t |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
44. Yeah..right. The internal combustion engine in incredibly complex |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Just to be clear... |
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Aloha Spirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
45. "we own the copper" |
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reclinerhead (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
46. Two more which are intertwined |
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Unca Jim (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
48. Funny Comic, but... |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. The History Channel had a special that showed Solar Technology |
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Unca Jim (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-14-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #52 |
77. Sure, but... |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-14-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. There's got to be ways to transfer energy over long distances |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #48 |
59. I've lived in Germany. |
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Unca Jim (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-14-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #59 |
78. Great idea... |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #48 |
68. The magick bullet for sustainable energy |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
54. I think I remember this very cartoon FROM THE 70s! nt |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. So do I! |
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NBachers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
56. Nanosolar |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:40 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Solar is only one part |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #56 |
74. Is it kind of like the "Solar Powered Bikini" |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
60. that's why we have to do it without waiting for corporate America & their tools in DC to do it |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
62. That's an oldie but a goodie! (NT) |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
63. One thing that would REALLY help would be to have excess solar power on grid get PAID for! |
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raystorm7 (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
64. So true,,,Only thing that will get us off our lazy asses is if another country makes the breakthru. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-14-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #64 |
80. There are several breakthroughs that have already been made, you can just be sure |
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frog92969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
66. A Battery! A Battery! My Kingdom for A Battery! |
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Unca Jim (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-14-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #66 |
79. Tesla |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
67. I believe that cartoon is over thirty years old |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Nationalize Oil, Coal, and Natural Gas |
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thunder35 (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. sounds like you would prefer a markist country |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. I don't think so |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-15-08 06:46 AM Response to Reply #72 |
85. If you're going to throw out RW insults, at least SPELL them correctly. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
70. Let's put the few who own everything out of business --- nationalize our natural resources --- !!! |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-13-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
76. Yep, that's it in a nutshell. |
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