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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:33 AM
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One more time people - the problem ISN'T the price of gas
it ISN'T the price of gas
it ISN'T illegals
it ISN'T healthcare
it ISN'T the housing crisis

Every single "crisis" above is directly related to the concentration of wealth to the very top and the race to the bottom on wages for everyone else.


it's WAGES.

We blue collars have been saying this for over 20 years. We screamed like hell when the college people decided we don't need unions and blue collars can just go get more education when the factory closes.

Well guess what. A lot of us did get some education but once they destroyed us they came back to pick the bones of the college people too. The race to the bottom on wages has finally turned us into one big group of paycheck people rather than blue collars and white collars. Good.


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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:45 AM
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1. Well I'm in college and I'm very pro-union
I think blue-collar and white-collar workers, service and manufacturing sector need to have unions. Unions are part of what creates a strong middle class.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:50 AM
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2. A country in which
a man can't do well with honest labor and hard work, is a country that ain't worth spit. For stability and justice, economic conditions ought to be optimized for the typical working man - high value on labor, strong currency, plenty of goods to buy at a reasonable price.

Naturally, of course, this administration has sent us careening off in the opposite direction.
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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:50 AM
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3. According to Marx, anyone who has to sell their labor is a proletarian.
this includes college educated people, doctors, lawyers etc.

a capitalist is a person who does not need to work, who makes money simply by being the owner.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 05:05 AM
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4. It's Defecit Spending...
This regime has spent like there's no tomorrow...borrowing and creating paper to cover all its crimes and wars for profits. We still have no clue on the scale of this fleecing but it sure has taken a toll in many ways and will continue to as long as this regime and the repugnicans are anywhere near a public checkbook.

The defecits drove down the price of the dollar...driving up the price of oil and anything and everything associated with it. Anything that was made with, moved with or relying on oil to produce and distribute have been rising in price...and the more this regime borrows, the worse things get...driving the price of oil higher, devaluing the dollar further that means more for imports and high costs for anything that relies on the global economy...and that's a lot of things.

For many years, the corporate media hid this mess...and the shell games of banks that drove up the markets only masked the fact. Those numbers were based on speculation...not earning. Stocks would rise on "expectations" and projections, not actual revenues...and as long as that ponzi scheme went on, no one was the wiser. The debts grew and now the bill collector is calling. Add to this the repressive bankruptcy law that was ramrodded through Congress two years ago and the current mess wasn't only predictable, it was inevitable...and its gonna get worse.

The "wealthy" can't remind that way without a strong and "happy" middle class...who is gonna buy? There is a class warfare in this country but it goes far deeper than rich vs. poor as it's a specific rich representing a small oligarchy that shook off a century of government regulation with a vengeance and we all are paying the price for their arrogance and greed.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 05:18 AM
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5. Money IS debt. That's practically the only way money is made anymore.
Our monetary system is one gigantic ponzi scheme, and now it's gone global.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 05:50 AM
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6. WRONG!
Take the unions away from industry and in 5 years you will see people working in the same unsafe conditions as in China and India where if you get hurt on the job, you are simply out of a job.


The prices of Fuel is soaring because investors took their money out of stocks and bonds and put them in commodities.
Grain, Oil and other commodities are skyrocketing and it has nothing to do with wages.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 06:23 AM
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7. I totally agree...wall street is setting the price of oil......
They announce what they think oil will cost...and sure enough..it meets or exceeds their goal. Speculators are causing this. We are being played.
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