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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:33 PM
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Cannabis - Marching Resolutely In The Wrong Direction
The news item that sparked this was an announcement from the British Home Secretery (the American version would be Sec of State), Jacqui Smith, that cannabis was to be reclassified as a Class B drug. For those unfamiliar with the complexities of the British legal system, that means the potential sentence for possession rises from two years to five. Cannabis was actually only downgraded to Class C a few years ago and today's move comes in direct opposition to a review by the Advisery Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD). The ACMD, who provide medical and scientific data and recommendations on drug laws, said that cannabis should remain a Class C drug. According to Ms. Smith, her move is prompted by a clause in the ACMD report that said there was a: ""probable, but weak, causal link between psychotic illness, including schizophrenia, and cannabis use" (my emphasis). Translated into layman's terms, that means that if you have a pre-existing tendancy toward mental illness, smoking pot could trigger that illness (as could a lot of other things). That's probably true. If you have psychological problems or a tendancy toward them, anything which alters your perceptions could act as a trigger. That doesn't just mean pot though, that also covers alcohol and quite a few prescription medications and yet, no-one is campaigning to ban booze.

Now, the above is in reference to the UK but the rest of this applies to the US's ongoing war against some people who use some drugs as well.

When are we going to get it? The scientific and medical evidence says that pot is, for most people and used responsibly, relatively harmless. I've never been assaulted by a stoned person, the emergency rooms aren't full of people who get stoned and beat each other up. Psychologically, you can become addicted to pot but then, psychologically, you can become addicted to anything. Anything you feel an involuntary compulsion to do or take is, psychologically, an addiction. I don't smoke pot and haven't in years and I'd prefer it if people didn't smoke in my house (I dislike the smell) but I take drugs. Three are prescribed to me but my drugs of choice are nicotine and real ale. When I choose to enjoy a pint, does it make me any less safe if my neighbour chooses to enjoy a joint instead? Observation says no. Observation says that the two pleasures are, from a layman's point of view, much the same. They have mild mind-altering effects for a brief time and then you go on about your life. The cigarettes I smoke will probably kill me eventually and yet, I can walk into any newsagent and buy a pack of Marlboros but if I want to smoke a vastly less harmful weed, I have to run the risk of arrest and, in theory, imprisonment.

This is insane. Pot is entirely natural. It grows virtually anywhere. It has a pain relief record going back to the dawn of civilisation and every country that can grow the stuff has done so, often in massive quantities. During World War II, Britain had a "Hemp For Victory" campaign. Not so the country could get stoned but because the industrial applications of cannabis are legion. Textiles, paint, oil (both for lubrication and cooking), pain relief and dozens more besides. So when are our "ruling powers" going to get it? Cannabis shouldn't be Class C, B or A. It should be legal (properly age restricted, of course).
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:37 PM
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1. The reason, in a word, BigPharma
When people realize they can toss the expensive drugs they take for so many things from glaucoma, to high blood pressure, to anti-nausea drugs used for chemo patients... the list is very long... cutting to the chase... BigPharma will never, ever let us throw out their pills for something safer and more effective... they can't charge you for what you can grow in your backyard. And politicians will be happy to keep it illegal as long as BigPharma keeps tossing them bones.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:37 PM
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2. Pot is not a drug
The hypocrisy of it being illegal while the TV has dozens of ads every day for drugs that can be very harmful. Just the list of possible side effects is worse than the original problem.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:38 PM
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3. The point is that our ruling powers will never get it
and will have to be forced into doing the proper thing by massive civil disobedience in the form of medical pot laws in all the states plus relaxed penalties at the municipal and state levels. That is already starting to happen, to the extreme consternation of men who have become wealthy and powerful fighting a war against Americans who use it.

The only thing that has ever overcome bad nanny state law is massive civil disobedience, with many of the silly laws simply falling into disuse while others, like Prohibition, finally being overturned when the pressure became too great.

Changing stupid law is up to us. THEY will never do it.
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DemocratInSoCal Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:46 PM
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4. I Will Feel So Much Safer When The Pot Heads Are All Locked Up
Because honestly, most of the problems with the world today are a direct result of the junk food eating, tv watching, couch potatoes, who take a hit or two every day.

Finally, I'll be able to visit the UK(assuming I can afford to convert my $ to Pounds), and sleep at night.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:49 PM
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5. Yeah- also more sandwich bags & visine for LEGIT use by the sane folks.
A new day is dawning. ;)
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:50 PM
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6. Maybe the energy crisis, when we're well and truly screwd, will stop the stupidty
of course by then...

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loveable liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:56 PM
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7. And its so much more than just a high...
Textiles, fuel, food, an environmentally safer crop, are just a few reasons to allow the growth of hemp. Dont forget the cotton industry's hand in banning it. Working in law enforcement it is a crime to lock up pot heads over domestic assault perpetrators. Think of the money saved by not having to lock people up (I read somewhere that each pot arrest costs taxpayers upwards of $10k).

I can attest to the violence caused by alcohol consumption. I listen to alcohol's effect 4 days a week.

There are at least 3 problems with legalization. 1. Chickenchit politicians 2. Pharma and cotton industry blockades 3. uptight, unreasonalble a/holes.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 05:15 PM
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8. I believe the forestry industry would also block it
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loveable liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:52 PM
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9. excellent point....
Just another hurdle where commerce trumps practicality.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:23 PM
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10. Yep
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:21 PM
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11. Practicality can apparently be damned
Apparently, it's all about our "superiors" refusal to admit they've been fighting the wrong battle for years.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:28 PM
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12. But if you legalize pot, corn farmers will switch to pot farming....
... and famine will ensue. Such a food chain disruption, combined with a populous suffering from wild munchies, will be catastrophic. You really should think this whole legalization thing through ;-)
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 11:39 PM
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13. Ah, but...
...pot seed can be used to make gruel (really true), thus feeding everyone who wants feeding.
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