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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 09:45 AM
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How Much Did Rumsfeld Know?
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1736831,00.html

Ricardo Sanchez, the commander of U.S. Forces in Iraq in 2003-2004, has written a new memoir, Wiser in Battle: A Soldier's Story, an account of his life and his service in Iraq. Sanchez was a three-star general — and the military's senior Hispanic officer — when he led U.S. forces in the first year of the war. He was relieved of his command by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in 2004 following the revelations of the abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison. In 2005, Marine General Peter Pace, the new chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called him to say his career was over and he wouldn't get the promotion to a full general — four stars — that Sanchez says he was promised. Six months later, at Rumsfeld's request, he showed up at the Pentagon for a meeting with the defense secretary shortly before retiring. In this exclusive excerpt, Sanchez details what happened next:

I walked into Rumsfeld's office at 1:25 p.m. on April 19, 2006. He had just returned from a meeting at the White House, and the only other person present in the room was his new Chief of Staff, John Rangel.

"Ric, it's been a long time," Rumsfeld said, greeting me in a friendly manner. "I'm really sorry that your promotion didn't work out. We just couldn't make it work politically. Sending a nomination to the Senate would not be good for you, the Army, or the department."

"I understand, sir," I replied.

(SNIP)

Secretary Rumsfeld then pulled out a two-page memo and handed it to me. "I wrote this after a promotion interview about two weeks ago," he explained. "The officer told me that one of the biggest mistakes we made after the war was to allow CENTCOM and CFLCC to leave the Iraq theater immediately after the fighting stopped — and that left you and V Corps with the entire mission."

"Yes, that's right," I said.

"Well, how could we have done that?" he said in an agitated, but adamant, tone. "I knew nothing about it. Now, I'd like you to read this memo and give me any corrections."


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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:01 AM
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1. Glad to see that in the MSM
"In the meantime, hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars were unnecessarily spent, and worse yet, too many of our most precious military resource, our American soldiers, were unnecessarily wounded, maimed, and killed as a result. In my mind, this action by the Bush administration amounts to gross incompetence and dereliction of duty."
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:06 AM
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2. I see a constant pattern since 2000..... And it is said most
appropriately in this paragraph in one sentence. "we were set up for failure" Read this and then decide why this keeps happening?

"Sir, General Abizaid knew and worked very hard with me to reverse direction once he assumed command of CENTCOM. General Bell also knew, and he offered to send me his operations officer. In early July, when General Keane visited us, I described to him the wholly inadequate manning level of the staff, and told him that we were set up for failure. He agreed and told me that he would immediately begin to identify general officers to help fill our gaps."

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 10:10 AM
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3. He knew EVERYTHING before 2001....
Bush planned Iraq 'regime change' before becoming President

http://www.sundayherald.com/search/display.var.1032487.0.bush_planned_iraq_regime_change_before_becoming_president.php

By Neil Mackay

A SECRET blueprint for US global domination reveals that President Bush and his cabinet were planning a premeditated attack on Iraq to secure 'regime change' even before he took power in January 2001.

The blueprint, uncovered by the Sunday Herald, for the creation of a 'global Pax Americana' was drawn up for Dick Cheney (now vice- president), Donald Rumsfeld (defence secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld's deputy), George W Bush's younger brother Jeb and Lewis Libby (Cheney's chief of staff). The document, entitled Rebuilding America's Defences: Strategies, Forces And Resources For A New Century, was written in September 2000 by the neo-conservative think-tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

The plan shows Bush's cabinet intended to take military control of the Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power. It says: 'The United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein.' The PNAC document supports a 'blueprint for maintaining global US pre-eminence, precluding the rise of a great power rival, and shaping the international security order in line with American principles and interests'.

More....
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:48 AM
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4. They were there to steal the Oil and steal boatloads of money
they used our military cruelly and with NO RESPECT


its such a damn travesty and yet these greedy sickos wanted to torture too

that was their BIGGEST MISTAKE
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-02-08 11:57 AM
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5. No, it's not about *stealing* the oil, it's about disrupting the flow of oil
to artificially drive up the prices to enrich their cronies. Disrupting the whole Middle East has worked well to that effect....

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