Are you so hurt by high gas prices that you're ready to drill in the ANWAR?

[OmahaBlueDog]

Our President says it will increase production by 20%.

[Subdivisions]

1. "Our President says it will increase production by 20%"

That's a goddamned lie. Period!

[OmahaBlueDog]

3. He also says AQ wants to blow up oil facilities

[newmajority]

18. And AQ are employees of the Bush Crime Family

Always have been.

[OmahaBlueDog]

29. There y' go again...Just because the Bushes are friends with the Bin Ladens

doesn't make them a crime family. Even Osama's family thought he was odd.

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. What's there 6 months worth of oil?

[Subdivisions]

5. 6 months of oil is 15 BILLION barrels. There's less than 2 at ANWR. n/t

[grannylib]

4. And if it's anywhere near that, it won't be seen/felt for a decade or more

Increase production in ALASKA by 20% maybe...:shrug:

[OmahaBlueDog]

8. Are you saying figures don't lie, but liars can figure?

Imagine that -- our President, saying something untrue. I'm shocked.

[grannylib]

9. Horrifying thought, isn't it? I know, I am just agog at the notion, it's

so...bizarre...

Sheesh, every time the little imbecile opens his yap, a lie leaps out.

[AlCzervik]

6. and that oil will stay in this country?

bullshit, that oil if there is any will be sold to the highest bidder.

[krispos42]

33. That's not the issue, really

It's a global market. If the global supply increases, the global price (should) decline. It would probably stay here, just because we're closer, but it would make us import a little less oil from overseas.

[Mountainman]

36. Bull shit, gas prices are rigged. Look off the coast of Santa Barbara, what do you see?

Look all around here, there are oil wells, and yes refineries and gas is over $4.00 a gal. It doesn't have anything to do with wear it oil is pumped.

[krispos42]

37. Oh, the gas prices are rigged, no doubt about it

The futures markets on refined and crude petroleum products is insane, and probably riddled with insider trading.

But regardless, those oil wells in SB are pumping oil into the global market. So are the refined products, which explains the universally high prices.

[B Calm]

7. They would just sell it overseas for bigger profits, like they are doing now!

[L. Coyote]

10. Can we protect ANWAR from them "terrorists" who attack liberty and oil?

How many troops will this take? After all, they want to attack oil.

[erpowers]

11. Oil Companies

I may be wrong, but I thought the oil companies had already been given the leases to ANWAR, but still did not want to drill there because it would not be profitable to them. Do oil companies actually have the leases to ANWAR?

[maxsolomon]

12. the sooner it's extracted & burned, the better

the scarcer the resource becomes, the greater the price, the greater the public panic, the greater the political pressure, the more enticing the resource. i often think we'd be best just drilling it & getting it over with, thereby removing the issue from our national energy "debate".

ANWR, no matter how great its value to the planet as an intact ecosystem, is an abstraction to 99.99% of americans. they'll never go there, & they'll never understand saving tundra & reindeer when they're waiting in line for their gas ration. it's going to represent a delusional "solution" to high gas prices, and a wedge issue for the GOP, until it's value is debunked.

alcoholics don't leave bottles of booze laying around their house. we need to prove that the bottle's empty.

[Shoelace]

17. did you ever wonder if that's why gas prices are so high now

so it would put pressure on Americans to drill in Anwar? Must be my cynical mind at work but I can just see the back room boyz saying "let's raise the price of gas so high, they'll beg us to drill there"!

Nah, those oil boyz aren't that smart are they? :evilgrin:

[Selatius]

27. The dumbest solution seems to be the prevailing one if we look at history.

Wasting resources drilling in ANWR or funding solar/wind and other alternative energy sources? Hmm, we'll take the half-assed approach and drill ANWR.

If it took 5 billion dollars to install solar panels on 5% of homes in America and 1 billion dollars to open up ANWR to support 5% of domestic consumption for only 12 yrs., the miser would rather rip open ANWR.

It's fucking looney toons.

[OmahaBlueDog]

34. Drilling is the expedient solution

We have gas burning cars, we have refineries, we have a distribution infrastructure, we have drilling companies -- it always seems easier to keep doing what you've been doing -- ask any McCain supporter.

[uppityperson]

13. "Our President" also says we're winning in Iraq.

[RaleighNCDUer]

14. "Our President says it will increase production by 20%."

When they get it on line, in about 5 years.

Lasting for about 10 years.

While dealing with the melting permafrost, endangering the region with permanent damage.

It's just a fucking bandaid.

[Sheets of Easter]

15. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.

I see the sarcasm in your poll, but do people honestly think that drilling in Alaska will ever bring down the rate for gas? Hardly.

[OmahaBlueDog]

21. My tone was meant to supply sarcasm; the poll asks a fair question

..although I suspect I know the answer I'll get.

There are about 5 ways I can think of to save more oil than the ANWAR will yield. Hybrid car tax breaks, wind farm tax breaks, solar cell tax breaks, subsidized high efficiency bulbs, and and incentives for shipping more truck loads on intermodal rail flats leap to mind. I'd support building nuclear power plants before I supported drilling in the ANWAR, but that's me.

[Sheets of Easter]

25. Absolutely- on all those points.

Just wanted to let you know that someone saw through the poll question. :)

[newmajority]

16. It's not worth it.

The cost of drilling ANWR (and I don't mean just the money needed to dig a hole, but the long term damage to the ecosystem) is far too high for such a relatively small amount of oil.

[Warpy]

19. ANWR oil is BUNKER OIL

meaning it's a high sulfur crude oil that US refineries can't handle. It will be shipped to Asia.

Drilling in ANWR benefits the people who have what used to be our jobs.

It sure as hell won't benefit US.

[bdamomma]

20. when has this thuggish man ever said or had done anything right?

crickets chirping.

[Selatius]

22. There is not enough oil there to justify drilling. It's simply forestalling the inevitable. n/t

[Pineywoods Sam]

23. No ! But Im so hurt that I'd like to see the oil fields nationalized n/t

[Leftist Agitator]

24. Um, I don't have a car.

Am I allowed to vote and/or respond?

:shrug:

[OmahaBlueDog]

28. Hell yes!

Bicyclists, motorcyclists, hikers, walkers, BART riders, bus riders -- all manner of transit is welcome in this thread.

[OwnedByFerrets]

26. He is NOT my president......

he only pretends to be. FUCK YOU MONKEYBOY!!!

[Marrah_G]

30. I don't think it would bring down prices, it would just make the oil comps more wealthy

[krispos42]

31. How about drilling more in the Gulf instead?

The Gulf of Mexico, I mean.

I understand there are several large fields that are currently off-limits. Why not open those up a little? We already have the drilling rigs, and the ocean is a lot tougher than ANWAR, isn't it?

Besides, it's easier to contain an ocean spill than an Artic land spill.

[hlthe2b]

32. Two independent questions... ANWAR won't impact supply

to any great degree any time in the next decade, even if we started now. So, while we all may be severely hurt by gas prices, the two issues are disconnected.

[aikoaiko]

35. Drill it until its dry.

[YankeyMCC]

38. No, No, No!

More oil is not the path to success.

Smarter, more responsible growth - measured not by profit but by improved quality of life - is the answer, when people keep talking about drilling in ANWAR or the recently talked about fields found off the coasts of Brazil they are just avoiding the core issue, the hard problems that we need to solve if we want to continue as a human society with a fair quality of life.