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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:07 PM
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This is the look of pure evil
somebody cut his dick off.



and this is his daughter



Josef Fritzl and Elizabeth Fritzl. Photograph: EPA

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:08 PM
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1. Just curious, What is this thread about?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:10 PM
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5. Austrian cellar case man admits abduction and incest
A 73-year-old Austrian today confessed to imprisoning, beating and sexually abusing his daughter in a windowless cellar for 24 years, during which time he fathered her seven children.

Josef Fritzl admitted forcing his daughter Elisabeth into the basement of the family's home in Amstetten, north-west Austria, on August 24 1984, when she was 18.

Franz Pölzer, the head of the criminal investigations unit in the province of Lower Austria, said Fritzl had admitted abduction, incest and abuse.

Holding up a picture of the 73-year-old, he told a press conference: "This man led a double life for 24 years. He deceived everybody. He deceived his wife and the legal system."

After initially denying the crimes, Fritzl later admitted locking up his daughter, now aged 42, beating and sexually abusing her and fathering her children, Pölzer said.

"Even the most experienced members of the criminal police found it shocking," he added.

Three of the seven children never saw sunlight.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/28/austria.internationalcrime2?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:19 PM
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8. Ah, yes One sick evil SOB
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:20 PM
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9. Holy crap!
I have to say though, the wife didn't notice 7 kids running around? The daughter couldn't fine her way to freedom in 24 years? The kids were home birthed, never saw a doctor/dentist/teacher?

Something is wrong in Denmark (or Austria, as it were).
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:29 PM
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11. Three kids were "dropped off on the porch"...
Supposedly the daughter that "ran away to join a cult" was giving the children up to her parents for "adoption".

Three kids were in the dungeon, not adopted.

And one child (from a pair of twins) died after home birth, and was thrown into the incinerator.

As far as escape goes, the only exit was one that he had on keypad control.

If you do not want to read about pure evil, it's best not to find out too much about this story.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:38 PM
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14. Oh. My. God.
I can't even imagine.

I think you are right. I know too much as it is.

:scared:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:41 PM
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15. when I first heard about this story, I got a sick feeling in my stomach
this is the stuff of nightmares :scared:
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But.... Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:09 PM
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2. some times....
I want to rethink my stand on the death penalty.:evilfrown:
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:32 PM
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13. not a very helpful contribution, especially with the devil smiley.
That's your solution? Kill him and go on about our business. Until the next one. And the one after that.

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But.... Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:35 AM
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16. Not at all,
I do not support the death penalty at all, for several reasons, its just in some cases I have to wonder if I'm right(remember it's good to question your own motives) That is why I used the evil-frown.
Although I'm not sure how helpful I am?
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:50 AM
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24. A visceral and emotional reaction to a tragedy is hardly someone's new-found solution
A visceral and emotional reaction to a tragedy is hardly someone's new-found solution. Many times, it's nothing more than venting out in a safe, albeit rough way.
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rgbecker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:10 PM
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3. You're going to have to give us without cable a little more to go on.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:31 PM
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12. Google him. Josef Fritzl
http://www.google.com/search?q=Josef+Fritzl

It's kind of hard to process the first few go-rounds.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:10 PM
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4. It's always struck me as funny that we decry evil by advocating it.
Some things I will never understand, I suppose.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:12 PM
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6. hehe
*cackling evilly*
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:15 PM
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7. he's one sick fukwad...he needs to be
hung by the nutsack till dead....what a creepy perv !
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:20 PM
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10. I had heard little tidbits during the day but just saw the full story on Dan Abrams.
Unbelievable.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:43 AM
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17. Someone is about to pin this on Hillary. I know it. Hillary-haters hate nondivisive threads.
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 05:44 AM by Perry Logan
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:19 PM
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25. ?
OCD is a horrible thing.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:47 AM
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18. No doubt he had been molesting her long before she was imprisoned.
He probably felt the need to hide her since she was old enough to be married and to leave home.

She never had a chance. How WILL she find peace of mind now, after living so long without it?

I'm sure she never even had a childhood, with him right there breathing down her neck from the first. Poor, poor woman, poor lost childhood. She was destroyed, a sacrifice to his astonishing ugliness.

What would you imagine is the better sentence: isolation, no chance to ever speak to anyone ever again, or to mix with the general population in prison, to be the target of their horror, and disgust? I can't begin to guess.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:53 AM
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19. Throw him in a dungeon n/t
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:38 AM
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20. I agree - cut him off from the world like he did to her
my only question is: where was the wife during all this?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:40 AM
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21. sick
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:48 AM
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22. Between this and FLDS...
Between this and FLDS, I just can't seem to understand people anymore. Maybe I couldn't understand people prior to this, but I thought that could-- at least somewhat.

But I simply cannot put myself into the mindset to understand what it would take mentally/emotionally/spiritually to be capable of something like this.

How does a man justify doing something like this to himself day after day, for years at a time.

How could middle aged men justify to themselves that it's "perfectly natural and our 'God given' right" to rape thirteen and fourteen year old girls?

My Lord-- what this poor girl in Austria must have endured. And what those poor girls in El Dorado must have endured.

It's heartbreaking. It's just heartbreaking....

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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:49 AM
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23. This is the second of these stories to come out of Austria in a year.
The Germans have more jokes about the Austrians than Americans have about
Italians and Poles combined, but there are some real horror stories to come
out of there, too (Hitler was Austrian, don't forget).

What drives someone to this level of depravity it impossible for a rational
person to fathom. Guys like this are beyond sick. They are damaged.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:23 PM
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26. Death penalty is fine with me for someone like this.


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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:26 PM
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27. p.o.s.
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