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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:17 PM Original message |
Praying passenger is removed from plane (WABC) |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. What if he was a snake-handler :)? n/t |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. What if he was speaking in tounges? |
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Red Zelda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. Hey. Pray in your seat. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. That doesn't work either. There were Muslims removed from a plane for praying in their seats. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. You are leaving out some of the other details. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
49. Actually I did leave one detail out. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Those guys were really scawwwey. (severe sarcasm) |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. I wonder if a lawsuit was ever filed. Did you hear? n/t |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. There was some talk about it. But I'm not sure if they followed through. |
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iaviate1 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
77. In the other case... |
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iaviate1 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
75. I didn't see that in the article... |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. You KNOW someone's going to catch hell over this |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
40. Some jewish prayers have to be said while standing |
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iaviate1 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
80. If you have a problem with aviation regs... |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:09 AM Response to Reply #80 |
95. or if you have a problem with the growing police state... |
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iaviate1 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:54 AM Response to Reply #95 |
98. Try blocking the doors of a school... |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #98 |
122. of course |
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iaviate1 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 03:04 AM Response to Reply #122 |
128. It's not benign non-compliance. |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 08:25 AM Response to Reply #95 |
110. There's a difference |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #110 |
123. I disagree |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #40 |
112. And if the "Fasten Seat Belts" sign is on? |
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Betsy Ross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. This kind of thing happens all the time. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. If they were still boarding, I see nothing wrong with his standing and praying. |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. He did more than stand and pray |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Where was his seat? His friends told attendent what was going on. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. 'Urbanksi said flights cannot depart if all passengers are not in their seats' |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. "while the United Airlines jet was being boarded " |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. You're making an assumption |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. As bluebear did, I am copy pasting. |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. There is one fact that is not in dispute |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 08:25 AM Response to Reply #8 |
109. since when? the bathrooms are in the back of the plane... |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #8 |
116. No big no-no. People go the restrooms in the rear of the plane |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. How about if he's in the way of the boarding? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Could be why he went to the back by the lavatories, to not block the aisle. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Lots of flights board through both the front and the back at the same time. |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. But then he's blocking the movement of the stewardesses |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. They call them Cabin Attendants now, many are men also. |
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iaviate1 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
81. Standing and praying is blocking the aisle / work area. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #81 |
89. You did read where his friends explained what he was doing, didn't you? |
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iaviate1 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:55 AM Response to Reply #89 |
99. Do you think friends would admit to intoxication? |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
6. According to TSA rules |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
7. Do you need to pick a side? |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
11. My religion |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Are you seriously comparing Orthodox Judiasm with that? |
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coriolis (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Only if they missed out on the briss. |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
46. Are you comparing Judaism |
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iaviate1 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
82. MOST Orthodox Jews are more respectful than this one... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. you pig.... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
113. Yeah, but do you belong to the "Maryanite" or the "Gingerific" sect??? (NT) |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
69. That's a fucking ignorant thing to say. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
121. This thread is really chapping my ass. |
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nosmokes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
14. WTF has happened to reason and common sense and that that rare old |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
39. Yup. Seems respecting his religion and waiting 2 minutes would delay it all less. |
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iaviate1 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
83. Common sense would dictate... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
15. 'once you start praying you can't stop' - why, why happens? |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Sounds less risky than praying with your hands pointing down, anyway. nt |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. I really like how people are being inquisitive and open minded about religious stuff they don't know |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I would hope God could handle: "Hello, Adonai? Have to return to my seat. Be with you in a minute." |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Different ways of praying. I would like to know why not interupted too. Serious question. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
76. I find faith fascinating... |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 05:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
103. Precisely. |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. Nothing--but you have to start over |
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iaviate1 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #35 |
84. THEN HE SHOULD HAVE BOOKED A LATER FLIGHT n/t |
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coriolis (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
68. Your cock falls off. |
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kevinbgoode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:29 AM Response to Reply #68 |
93. LOLOLOL |
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coriolis (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
18. Toss his ass off. Flight rules and such. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Yeah! And anyone who stands up to put something else into overhead bins too! |
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coriolis (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. You probably shouldn't smoke that stuff. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. They guy was asked to return to his seat... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
79. WHAT! AND MISS HIS FLIGHT! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
28. He could have continued his prayer while he walked over to his seat |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. I just pm'd a couple DUers who might know but aren't hanging in GD |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. I'm going to guess that he was davening the travelers prayer |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Davening=praying? |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. basically means praying. nt |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. "Usually." What are the exceptions? And is there any reason |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. The orthodox follow a lot of rules |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. That is a lot of rules. Thank you for posting that. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #59 |
92. I was just told that sometimes prayers have to be said facing a certain way also |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #92 |
114. That's true for all jews |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
55. Thank you, uppityperson. I was going through my friends in my mind, |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
66. Certain prayers need to be said at a precise time of day, and need to be said while standing. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. It's not my thing either, but good to be tolerant of those who do believe and are not hurting others |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. And never underestimate the power of ignorance. In addition to Muslims praying in the airport... |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:48 AM Response to Reply #66 |
97. Frisco Kid, not Sisco Kid (nt) |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 06:56 AM Response to Reply #97 |
106. Yeah, that's what I meant. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
38. Leaving something out of the title are we ABC? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. You did see why he didn't obey and that his friends said why, didn't you? |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. He didn't have to get on the plane. He did, so he can follow their rules. Simple dimple. |
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Parche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. FAA Rules |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Im sorry thats still not enough |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. You are not mocking or deriding, others are. And that pisses me off. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. No prob, the frmat here can make it difficult to see who is talking to whom.. |
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iaviate1 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
87. When ANYBODY refuses to acknowledge the flight crew... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #87 |
90. His friends did explain. You seem to have a real problem accepting that. |
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iaviate1 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:59 AM Response to Reply #90 |
101. Friends lie. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #101 |
119. I bow to your obviously superior experience and personal knowledge. |
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iaviate1 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 03:02 AM Response to Reply #119 |
127. Actually, I do have personal experience. |
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coriolis (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
58. Not mocking his religion, observing that he was being an asshole. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. "Same goes for this prick as for the goofy Muslims in Chicago" |
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coriolis (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. No, you're right, it is mocking. I always mock moronic assholes. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Does your family wear earplugs? |
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coriolis (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Naw, we don't have any uppity family members. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. His family eats the upitty ones when they're children. n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Guess you missed my reference. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #41 |
70. The penalty for disobeying FAA rules pale in comparison to eternal damnation in Hell. |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #70 |
86. I dunno |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 06:58 AM Response to Reply #86 |
107. I know that. YOU know that. But in their worldview, that isn't the case. n/t |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 08:28 AM Response to Reply #70 |
111. jews don't believe in hell. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #111 |
118. Some do. n/t |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #118 |
124. not if they're orthodox- like the guy praying on the plane. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. I was taught Hebrew school by an Orthodox rabbi who believed in Heaven and Hell. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. i was a similar thorn in the side of my lutheran school teachers, k-12. |
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iaviate1 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #41 |
85. He's being derided for his disruption, not religion. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #85 |
91. Then why are so many posts focused on his religion? |
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iaviate1 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:58 AM Response to Reply #91 |
100. You don't know what you are talking about.... |
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libodem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
60. Last time I flew |
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iaviate1 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
88. See, don't disrupt or delay the flight and everybody is happy. N/T |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 05:16 AM Response to Reply #88 |
105. I agree. |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
78. Who the hell does he think he is, to hold up a planeload of people? |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:43 AM Response to Original message |
94. Must not have been a repug. They pray on their knees |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
96. Perhaps it would have been sensible |
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BlueCollar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 05:05 AM Response to Original message |
102. Good |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
104. It sounds like a case of bad timing to me. |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
108. Why is the operative word in this headline "praying?" |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
115. Sorry..unless it's a medical issue or something, you need to go to your seat so the plane can leave. |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
117. Sit your ass down when the flight attendants say so, or get off the plane. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
120. Today's update with a little bit more about why he prayed as he did. I agree, it was bad timing. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 08:17 AM Response to Reply #120 |
130. The FAA isn't as scary as a snake coiled around your ankle, I suppose. n/t |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 04:19 AM Response to Original message |
129. Why does religion excuse his actions? |
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