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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:11 PM
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Perino: Iraq Agreement ‘Not Subject’ To Congressional ‘Yes-Or-No’...
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 06:11 PM by babylonsister
Is this even legal, not that that ever stopped them? :mad:

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/09/perino-iraq-agreement/

Perino: Iraq Agreement ‘Not Subject’ To Congressional ‘Yes-Or-No’, Regardless Of What ‘Other Countries’ Do


In November, President Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki issued a “Declaration of Principles for a Long-Term Relationship of Cooperation and Friendship.” Recently, the Bush administration has refused to say whether it believes there is “a constitutional requirement” for the White House to “consult with Congress…in the commitment of U.S. forces in a battle zone.”

Yesterday, Ambassador Ryan Crocker stated that the status of force agreement (SOFA) would be negotiated with Iraq as an “executive agreement,” which he said did not require congressional approval. Crocker also said that the Iraqi government would submit the agreement to its parliament, even though the White House refused to do the same for Congress.

During today’s White House briefing, Press Secretary Dana Perino reiterated that, regardless of what the Iraqi parliament might do, the U.S. Congress would be shut out of its advise and consent role:

PERINO: An executive agreement like this isn’t something that is subject to a yes-or-no by the United States Senate. Other countries, under their constitutions, may have that type of rule, but we don’t. But that doesn’t mean we’re not going to work very closely with Congress.

QUESTION: (inaudible) make an end-run around the…

PERINO: No, it’s not.

QUESTION: Well, why can’t you submit it to Congress?

PERINO: I just explained why.

Watch it at link~

In fact, there is nothing precluding the White House from submitting the agreement to Congress. Indeed, as Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-MA) pointed out yesterday, negotiating such a treaty without Senate approval would represent a break from past practice. In 1951, for example, the Senate ratified a U.S./NATO SOFA to preside over the hundreds of thousands of U.S. forces stationed in over 40 countries, including Germany and Japan.

Conservative columnist George Will wrote recently, “Hundreds of such agreements, major (e.g., NATO) and minor (the Reagan administration’s security commitment to the Marshall Islands and Micronesia), have been submitted to Congress.”
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:20 PM
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1. Rep. Bill Delahunt brought this up today with Crocker and Petraeus
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:23 PM
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2. Maybe the Nancy Disaster knows . . . since the Executive can do anything it wants.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:23 PM
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3. Biden to Crocker in yesterday's SFRC Hearing regarding this:
CROCKER: The agreement will not specify troop levels, and it will not tie the hands of the next administration. Our aim is to ensure that the next president arrives in office with a stable foundation upon which to base policy decisions, and that is precisely what this agreement will do. Congress will remain fully informed as these negotiations proceed in the coming weeks and months.

BIDEN: Mr. Ambassador, I would not presume that if the security agreement with Iraq goes beyond a status of forces agreement that you "need only inform the Congress." You need to do much more than inform the Congress, you need the permission of the Congress if you're going to bind the next president of the United States in anything you agree to.

Complete with Biden snark -- you could tell he was pissed.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:26 PM
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5. That was the best soundbite from Joe. Loved it.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:59 PM
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9. Me, too.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:35 PM
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7. Crocker - look down, squirm in seat, hang head...
Today I was listening to him answering a very similar question from Clinton. He's not as afraid of her but boy did he waffle there too.
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:09 PM
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11. Hillary Clinton asked this question yesterday....
and got the same bullshit response. There was quite a bit of discussion about this on Hardball last night. I think this thing may have some traction. Arrogant assholes.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:26 PM
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4. Can President Obama shut his predecessor out of the process?
Yes, he can, unless Bush submits this to congress.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:27 PM
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6. Preznit Peroxide have spoken! Bow down and obey. n/t
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:38 PM
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8. Can we PLEASE watch a debate on this between Perino and Biden
Chairman of Foreign Relations and ranking member/former Chairman of Judiciary vs. Her Ditziness.

Let's make it a pay-per-view with proceeds going to the GE fund for the Dems

:D
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 07:08 PM
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10. So doesn't Maliki realize that if it isn't approved by Congress, the next prez can simply rescind it
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