"You have your Tiger Woods"

[CatWoman]

Jesus Fucking Christ.

I can't of anything else to day..........

[greenbriar]

1. I would take Tiger anyday

over McNasty

[CatWoman]

5. but Greenbiar,

that's not the point.

[greenbriar]

12. I know

but still!!!

[cynatnite]

2. I wondered if I heard it right...

Speechless here, too.

[CatWoman]

3. here's the link. Keith is discussing it now.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/08/mccain-speaker-have-your_n_95665.html

[Ichingcarpenter]

7. What a bunch of shit......

Figures, I just saw it too.

[Bonobo]

4. Holy shit, CatWoman.

That's some fucked up shit.

[CatWoman]

8. look right above you

[Bonobo]

11. I love you because you combine my two favorite things.

Women and cats.

[CatWoman]

13. no

I was just being bitchy :)

[Bonobo]

14. me solly too.

[Muttocracy]

9. more info here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5431553

[zulchzulu]

6. Some POW vets call McCain "Songbird"

Chirp...chirp...chirp...

[malaise]

10. Mindblowing indeed

McSameasBush will have some Mc'splaining to do with that Vet's intro today.

[booley]

15. I don't think this was a racist comment

Just an incredibly stupid one from a member of a party with a problem of being seen as racists.

[CatWoman]

16. it was stupid AND racist

:nuke:

[spanone]

19. it was mostly racist....then mccain hugged him

& this is just the primary

[booley]

24. I can see why they might make the comparison

Tiger woods is seen a s a phenom in Golf. Black or not, he is a great golfer who is seen as having a natural talent for the game.

Similar comparisons have been made of Obama.

Of course, the Tiger Woods is also seen as the Black guy who broke the color barrier in Golf. And only an idiot would forget that.

I don't know what's going on in the speaker's heart. I don't accuse others of being bigots with more proof. I can see how a perfect world this comment could be made without it being racist.

Of course we don't live in a perfect world. There is racism in this country and the Republicans are seen as having a problem with it.

When something is said, it's not just the speaker involved but the listener as well. I was drawing the difference.

[greenbriar]

20. it was a clever attempt at trying to be racist under the radar

and it was dumb

and he blew it

[magellan]

36. It was thinly veiled racism at best

As KO pointed out, it couldn't be this jackass thought a good way to stump for McCain would be to compare his rival Obama to a well-respected, world class sportsman, could it?

[AlCzervik]

17. building a bridge back to the 18th century, McCain is most comfortable in the

century of his birth.

[GreenPartyVoter]

18. *jaw drops*

[Canuckistanian]

21. A black man intruding into white man's territory

That's how I read that statement.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

22. We have Tiger Woods. They have Dorf.

[CatWoman]

23. lol

Hi, Professor!!!

:hi:

[booley]

37. Don't insult Tim Conway like that

I always thought he was funny. It's unfair to compare him to republicans.

[MadMaddie]

25. The remark was so elementry....

Does he mean Tiger Woods one of the most intellectual golf players of all time?

Does he mean Tiger Woods that has drawn fans from all walks of life?

Or does he mean you have your "black man" and they will stick with the "white" man.

Obviously it was the 3rd choice...Racist and bigoted. McCain stood by and said nothing.

[dancingme]

26. "they all look alike"

that's the mentality. All black men look alike so it's OK to lump them all together. Tiger Woods, Barack Obama, Will Smith...

That is racist.

[rwheeler31]

27. Who funds that weird vets group?

None of these guys sound like vets.

[booley]

38. it's a front group

started by one of the former members of SHRUB"S ADMIN...Ari fleischer possibly. I would have to look it up.

Yes, they are vets. Vets being paid to promote the war and write pro-war editorials to put in papers unaware of their political ties.

They were created to counter vote vets. It's classic astro turfing.

[dchill]

28. One question - Has Tiger Woods endorsed anyone yet?

Would it not be just so appropriate if he were to announce for Obama tomorrow? Just sayin'.

[Quantess]

31. Let's just say, I would be very surprised if Tiger Woods ended up voting for McCain, after that.

[dchill]

33. Me too, but from my point of view...

I would be very surprised anyone ended up voting for McCain, after that. Or before that.

[rocktivity]

32. Tiger has described Obama as being "impressive" and "inspiring"

(link). "I've seen him speak. He's extremely articulate, very thoughtful." Hmm, didn't Joe Biden get in trouble for saying that?

:evilgrin:
rocknation

[dchill]

34. Then I think Obama should call him now...

and set something up...

[Skittles]

29. I've tried to think of another context besides racism but

I absoulutely cannot :o

[rocktivity]

30. Maybe he was trying to make Obama look frivolous

by comparing him to someone who's established himself in a "recreational" field.

Nah...that would require a thought process.

Since he mentioned "the audacity of hope" as well as Tiger, he probably confused them because they look alike to him.

:eyes:
rocknation

[PA Democrat]

35. Yes and we all know we gotta keep THOSE people out of

what is white men's exclusive territory, the country club and the White House. :mad:

[petronius]

39. I think what he was trying to say, considering the line before the Woods comment,

is that while some people admire athletes and celebrities, his kids will admire 'people of principle' like McCain. The problems with his statement are that he assumes McCain is truly admirable, and he assumes Woods is not (he makes the mistake of assuming that sports heroes are automatically less deserving).

I'm not convinced that race necessarily has anything to do with it - Woods is certainly well-known enough to be a generic example of a pop-culture hero. I'd need to see it in context of other things this guy has said before I make that conclusion...