McBooted perv sues

[Mugu]

By Laurel J. Sweet, Boston Herald

A convicted serial rapist fired from his job flipping burgers at a Tewksbury McDonald’s is suing the Golden Arches and the mom who exposed him because she refused to clown around with her children’s safety.

Scott Gagnon, 50, who served 27 years behind bars after pleading guilty to picking up and raping five hitchhikers ages 15 to 25 in Essex County 30 years ago, said McDonald’s knew he was a registered Level 3 sex offender when Andrea Quinn found out where he was working from the Sex Offender Registry Board’s Web site and complained to his bosses.

“I never met her before in my life,” said Gagnon, who returned to the streets a year ago.

But Quinn told the Herald she’d do it again.



Complete article at:
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1084193

[Turbineguy]

1. Yes. A man like that belongs on the streets

not in a supervised work situation.

There are no easy answers.

[Donnachaidh]

2. he claims the McDonald's knew he was a sex offender --

But further down the article this was said by a McD's rep “It’s a company policy that we do not hire anyone convicted of a sex offense. When we found out about it, we terminated him.”

So, either he lied to McD's, or the company got caught going against their own policy. This guy was a serial rapist -- 5 victims! He should NOT be working at an establishment that hires kids.

:hurts: :nopity:

[Lance_Boyle]

3. the guy served his time

why should he not be able to serve burgers?

[dysfunctional press]

4. exactly.

the guy paid his debt. he should be allowed to hold a job.

[niyad]

5. what is the recidivism rte for multiple sex offenders?

[Chulanowa]

6. Pretty high. But has he raped someone else?

That's the key here. Has he committed another crime? I know it's real popular to treat ex-cons as subhuman monsters undeserving of any consideration, but facts is facts - once you get out of prison, you're considered innocent, until you screw up again.

Unfortunately, McDonalds policy is McDonald's policy. Even if he was totally honest about his past upon employment, all that means is that the manager is in trouble. He won't be getting anything from his wrongful unemployment suit.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

7. Something under 100%, probably

After 27 years in prison, who knows?

But for some "re-entry" period, it might not be a bad idea to keep him away from kids.

[rucky]

14. How's losing a job going to help? n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

29. Fairly low, in comparison to other felons.

http://www.csom.org/pubs/mythsfacts.html

[varkam]

30. Low.

Between 11 and 17 percent, depending on what study you look at.

[aikoaiko]

8. Sex offender says McDonalds knew, McDonalds says they didn't know and have a no hire policy.

case closed.


eta: If this guy doesn't understand why people wouldn't want someone with his specific history of raping teens and young adults working at a MCdonalds (that markets to young people), then I don't the rehabilitation has really settled in.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

9. I wonder what businesses DO hire people like that?

On an completely unrelated note, he looks like Bill O.

[ozu]

10. Kind of curious myself

What are your employment options when you're a multiple rapist who's spent 27 years in prison and are open about it on job applications?

I would imagine someone has to give him a job and allow him to rent or his recidivism rate is going to be pretty damn high.

[BuelahWitch]

17. A call center I used to work for hired convicted felons

on a regular basis. I don't know that any of them are/were rapists. Mostly drug convictions, at least one I know about who was jailed for battery.

[The Doctor.]

11. Holy Crap.... I lived in Tewksbury just over thirty years ago.

White, middle class, conservative area.

Just where you'd expect to find these guys.

[LSdemocrat]

12. Why the heck do we insist on making sex offenders lives hell AFTER they leave jail?

If you want to increase their prison sentences, go ahead, but no wonder recidivism is so high if a guy can't hold a job at flippin' McDonalds.

[Pastiche423]

13. It's quite clear that you have never been raped

The rape victims do not get a second chance at living a new life. The rape stays w/them for life.

Fuck the pervert!

[ozu]

15. Well

If I were in his position, and given the option of being unable to be hired at a even a McDonalds and well on my way to a life of homelessness, re-offending and getting state sponsored room and board might cross my mind.

Is is rehabilitation you want or revenge?

[Pastiche423]

16. What I want

is for his Karma to continue catching up w/him.

[0rganism]

18. Will you still claim karma if he wins 10 million bucks in his McD's lawsuit?

Karma might have preferred to let the sex offender flip burgers for the rest of his working life.

[Pastiche423]

19. I truly do not believe that is what his Karma would bring

Plus, there's no fucking way this pervert stands a chance at winning a lawsuit, period.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

20. Is the price that the rest of society pays worth it? -nt

[Pastiche423]

21. What the hell does that mean?

[varkam]

31. That perhaps we should be focused on rehab and reintegration...

as opposed to naked revenge. (Oh, and FWIW, I have been raped).

[Pastiche423]

37. You can focus on rehab and reintegration

but that is nothing more than a fool's errand. This fucker is trying to sue a woman because she alerted on his past.

Yep, he's been rehabbed alright. :eyes:

[varkam]

38. Is it?

According to the DOJ, recidivism for sex offenders is fairly low - lower than other types of criminals. Having a stable support system, which includes stable employment, further reduces the risk of recidivism. Why are you defending the actions of someone that could increase the risk of re-offense?

Being that he wasn't sent to prison for suing people, how can you claim that he hasn't been rehabbed? What if someone used the registry to find his address and kick the crap out of him at home? If he pressed charges, would you claim that he hasn't been rehabbed because he didn't shut up and take it?

:eyes:, indeed.

[Pastiche423]

40. Keep defending the monster

I no longer want to hear your shit.

Bye bye.

[varkam]

42. Fingers in your ears, huh?

I wonder when it will be that people start caring more about preventing sexual violence then satisfying their own need for revenge.

:hi:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

46. It means that, if there are two choices A and B, and...

In choice A, the criminal suffers more but society is less safe...

And in choice B, the criminal suffers less but society is more safe...

And any other choices are impractical or obviously extremely harmful...

Any rational person should choose B.

What do YOU choose?

(Edit: missing word "there" in subject)

[LSdemocrat]

23. Dupe

[LSdemocrat]

24. So throw him in jail for life

But anyone who is released from prison should be given a fair shot, or we really can't expect them to do anything but relapse into crime.

[Pastiche423]

25. He threw away his freedom

when he chose to rape five women.

[LSdemocrat]

26. I'm just saying if you want to punish someone for life, throw them in jail for life

I personally believe that rape should be crime that carries a sentence of life in prison without parole, but I also believe that anyone released from prison, after completing probation, should be given a clean slate otherwise we shouldn't have any expectation that they won't return to crime.

[Pastiche423]

27. No convicted sexual predator that chose to work

at a place w/young adults (the age of the women he raped) should be given a clean slate.

Monsters should not be allowed to live among humans.

[varkam]

32. He probably chose to work wherever he could get hired.

:shrug:

[Pastiche423]

33. Why are you taking up for a sexual predator?

He chose his life's path.

[varkam]

34. He also served his time.

27 years, to be exact.

And in what strange world do you live where merely pointing out that he probably took a job wherever he could find one, rather than acting out some diabolical plot to get close to potential victims is construed as "taking up" for him?

[Pastiche423]

35. He may have served some time

but his victims must live w/what happened to them for their entire lifetimes.

I live in the same world of people that do not want sexual predators working or living close to people that are the same ages as his victims.

[varkam]

36. Recovery from trauma can happen, you know.

And before you claim that I'm not being sensitive, I am a rape victim and have worked to recover from it. Therapists generally say that messages such as rape victims never recover are counter-productive such such trauma recovery. I can't tell you the number of times I've read that rape is a sentence worse than death, and on one level it makes me feel as though I'm somehow less than for something that was totally out of my control. At any rate, I'm not saying what he did wasn't wrong - it was - and that's why he was sentenced to prison.

And like it or not, he's got to live. What would you suggest we do? Would murdering him sate your lust, or would shipping him off to a deserted island suffice?

[Pastiche423]

39. A deserted island sounds good

I was raped as well. In addition I was abducted, robbed, stabbed, beat up and left for dead. I am paralyzed for life.

I have zero sympathy for monsters that take the life away from innocent people.

[varkam]

41. No one is a monster.

We're all human, even despite our monstrous acts. I guess I tend to believe in universal human rights that are non-negotiable.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

44. OK, so what part of "so throw him in jail for life" didn't you understand? -nt

[mondo joe]

50. He did - but he was sentenced and did time.

Maybe he should have served a longer sentence - but if he's out he has to be permitted to work and have housing.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. Have you ever been stalked?

Hard to believe, if you endorse it.

[Pastiche423]

43. Please see my post #39

[Canuckistanian]

49. So, what's to be done with the offenders?

The guy has served his time.

If you want him to be removed permanently from society, then lobby for life imprisonment or the death penalty for him.

If someone has paid their legislatively mandated debt to society, when have they been considered to have paid that debt?

What's your solution?

[Sandaasu]

22. Yes, beacuse an inabaility to work is the best way to keep someone from commiting crimes.

Our "justice" system is insane. When someone's out of prison, they need to have the ability to live their life in a reasonable fashion.

Also, "children’s safety?" His youngest victim was age 15, barely under the AOC in most states and at or above it in much of Europe. Given the age range he targeted, it's not likely he's a pedophile, just a plain rapist. But of course, to sensationalize the story, we'll make it sound like he's particularly threatening to children.

[BlooInBloo]

45. It's tough. I don't want such people near me or mine, but otoh...

... even they need to have jobs and the like.

[Bonobo]

47. He served 27 years, is 50 years old and is working in a McDonalds.

Doesn't he deserve a break at some time?

[mondo joe]

48. Very sad all around. The sentence should reflect the crime. If he does his time he should

be permitted to live his life.

To throw people out of jail but hound them out of house and job with no option is not justice, it's just cruelty.