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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 12:57 PM Original message |
Poll question: States weigh lowering drinking age - What do you think? Please explain your answer. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Europe has fewer binge drinkers, because |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. That was the argument for lowering it back in 1972, besides the Vietnam War.... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Have you actually lived in Europe? |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I have lived in three euro countries |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Please see my reply #1 for the debunking of the myth |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. I have. About 4 years of my life on and off. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Please see my post #1. It is time to debunk the myth that |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Yes, but they don't BINGE drink as an acceptable way to relax at any age |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
52. My Irish ancestors stopped drinking after a terrible tragedy |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. I know plenty of Irish folks who cannot/won't do that |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. I know plenty of people of all nationalities that won't do that, |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:54 PM Original message |
I lived in Europe many years and saw lots of binge drinking. |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
60. If it is the "scourge of Europe" then you obviously have lived in a different continent |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #60 |
87. Come to think of it. There is not as much drunk driving in Europe |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
69. Question, have YOU lived in Europe? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #69 |
84. I lived in Europe for many years |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #84 |
167. Then let us just agree... |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
25. I've always made fun of the bingers but in college they seemed to be the "everyone crowd" |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. Ever been to a 21 pub crawl? The Europeans I know drink like fish. nt |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. Personally, I think we should legalize and tax marijuana, first. |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. or go home and beat their wives |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Kids should learn to drink before they learn to drive. Period. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. I'm not sure I want the legal drinking age lowered to, say, 14. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
31. I hope you are joking. Please see my post #1. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Alcoholism schmalcoholism - I just want people to know when its unsafe to drive |
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fight4my3sons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Right here with you. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. A lot of "kids" and adults got "wrecked"... |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Point being? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Point being they do it at the same time a lot or at least they did |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. As I said upthread, certainly when I was 19 I thought the 21 yr. old drinking age was unfair. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. I've had over 12 friends killed in alcohol related accidents... |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. You may be right about that. Certainly we found ways to get around the drinking age. |
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TheFriendlyAnarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
91. Seriously. The dumbest thing I ever did stoned |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. We send our 18 year olds off to die in a war |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I know...they can take a bullet but not a drink? It's absurd! |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
35. We should not be killing them either way. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. An 18 year old is an adult !! |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. I'm 64. An 18-year-old is still a child. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Not all are and they are legal to do whatever, except drink, at that age. |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
109. That is one of the dumbest statements I've ever run across on the internet. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
113. Age has nothing to do with alcoholism |
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nels25 (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
62. That was the same argument used in the early 70's |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. It was 18 |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Me neither. I think it was in 1972, the age was lowered. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. MADD and the Reagan administration. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. It figures it was Raygun (3 Strikes your Out!) - "Ketchup is a vegetable!" |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
42. If you don't drink, you will never get a DUI, never have drinking |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. They tried prohibition once before and it didn't work. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #44 |
79. I realize that. I am not suggesting prohibition. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. But kids younger than 18 are already drinking. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Note that the big liquor companies generally support the Republican Party. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Then why would you want THEM educating people about alcohol consumption? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. You are probably right. But it isn't fair for the taxpayers to have |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. There should be an equal contribution, maybe? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #95 |
103. Thank you. You make a good point. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. But either way, under 18 will still be drinking illegally. 18 yr olds are legal adults. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #88 |
99. It is very interesting. I have posted a lot of solid statistical |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #99 |
112. No, what you have done is post dubious piffle from interested parties and pretended it's Holy Writ |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #112 |
173. i have not suggested keeping people over 18 from making |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #79 |
123. Prohibition currently exists for adults under the age of 21. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Good point and well stated. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #79 |
148. Abstinence would be great if it worked |
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TooBigaTent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. The vehemence of your responses could make one think that one has personal issues |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
70. Yes, I have had two alcoholic bosses -- they made me miserable. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. They already are making those decisions. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #47 |
93. Another thing that might influence me is the fact that |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. I was almost killed by a drunk driver and he was 48 yrs. old!!! |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. If you read my posts, you will see that there is some evidence |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Yes but you keep avoiding the FACT that under 18 are already drinking. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #106 |
172. Making it legal to drink at 18 won't stop under-18s from drinking. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. I suppose raising the age to 95 wouldn't exactly be the same as Prohibition, but we tried the latter |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. But it did increase bootlegging and speak easy's and many |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. I was joking a bit. As you can see, I really don't see the point |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
78. I assumed that you were joking about age 95. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
10. I would like to see the lowest drinking age for beer and wine |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. But a lot of kids have jobs they need to get to.... |
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nels25 (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
68. Raising the driving age |
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Firespirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
72. I went to college at 16 |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
12. There is some evidence that binge drinking has increased as a result of the |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Yup! And they hold on campus parties and get shitfaced...although some |
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TooBigaTent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
41. It also happens at most high school functions. With the chaperones watchful |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
119. At my teens' schools, they don't allow kids inside for social events |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #119 |
125. That's why a lot of kids don't go to dances anymore... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #125 |
128. That's a shame. We don't seem to have that problem here. n/t |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. It may also be budget cuts but I remember "back in the day" |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #130 |
133. Parents having houseparties for high school kids -- |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #133 |
137. Some do, I suppose, but not all. Parents do go on vacation or |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #137 |
149. I'm only criticizing the parents who do it on purpose. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. I know what you meant and I don't think those parents are very smart at all but |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #151 |
156. Did your poor sister go nuts? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #156 |
161. No but my brother did. We blew a fuse in his stereo. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #119 |
162. Fine, except, most high school students are younger than 18. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'll say it again. Raise the age of active duty service people to 21. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. That'll never happen. They can brainwash them more easily, the younger thay are... |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #20 |
51. no, to 35. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. And all rethugs and those that support their call for war! |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
138. Exactly. I drank underage a few times. It hurt my grades and that's all it did. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
22. Just do like Louisiana with the drinking age and cockfighting law, ignore them |
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TooBigaTent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
32. Mentioned elsewhere, but the puritanical social mores of the US have done nothing |
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Zywiec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
36. 1, 2, and 8 n/t |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
75. same here. n/t |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
37. either lower the drinking age |
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morgan2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
40. a lot of the thrill of drinking for kids |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
45. Raise the age to 85 or higher; there is no aspect of your life that is improved by alcohol |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
105. We already tried something like that once, genius - and it made Al Capone a rich man. Get real. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
48. So far, legally being able to vote and fight at 18 are winning the poll. |
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Firespirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
49. This is fine by me |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Some states allow 17 year olds to vote. |
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Firespirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. Good for them |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. You were/are a smart kid! |
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Firespirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #71 |
82. Thanks |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. It's an uninhibitor. |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
54. Reform is always difficult, & takes a lot of struggle -- this reform NOT worth progressives' time... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. We can keep our eye on all the topics at the same time, I think. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
58. just more dead kids, on our nations highways. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #58 |
76. Are you sure? Do you have the stats? |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. breeze54, no I don't have any back up for my comment. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #81 |
92. But they're already drinking before they are 18.... |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
67. Drinking age breeds contempt for the law. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. Oh well, more choices seemed like a good idea at the time. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #77 |
90. Many teenagers don't drink. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. They don't drink for a lot of reasons. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #98 |
159. An 18, 19, or 20 year old will have other valid reasons to refuse alcohol. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
74. If you're old enough to vote and go to war, you're old enough to drink. |
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El Pinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
80. Other - raise the age of military service and voting to 21 - raise age for DL's to 21, too. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
94. I drank a sip of beer from my dad regularly as a kid |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
96. Fort Hauchuca, Arizona |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
100. Human beings have the right to pursue happiness |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
101. Saying "yes" but have mixed feelings about it --- |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. Been my Experience |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #104 |
122. Right -- what I'm saying is that "prohibition" makes booze a bigger issue . . . |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #122 |
126. or 47 or 55 or ..... |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
107. Whatever the draft age is. |
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Feron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
110. The 21 drinking age law is stupid. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Under 21 can't gamble in casino's though but I'm not sure |
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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
114. At age 18, |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
115. it's time to thin the herd- lower it to 16. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 04:40 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. * already has by 1.4 M but I have to ask.... |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. zero-population growth. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Yeah, I've read about them but I think they changed their name. |
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onethatcares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
120. old enough to die, old enough to buy. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #120 |
127. Good slogan! |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #120 |
132. You got it. n/t |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
121. I think that ALL adults should be able to buy alcohol! |
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They Live 1988 (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
129. I don't think it is any of the government's business |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. The insurance companies have a lot of "input" on these matters, I think. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #129 |
136. Alcoholism does present issues that are of public concern. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #136 |
139. States already have laws about DUI's; etc. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. I am glad I am still barely over 21 so I can say that law did not effect me in the slightest. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #141 |
146. Maybe not all but this is about legalities. At 18, all are legal to vote, marry, |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #141 |
147. Agree ... 25 should be the minimum for enlisting .... |
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They Live 1988 (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #136 |
174. I agree with what you said, but |
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DavidMS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
134. I think its a good idea |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
135. I think we need to change the age you can enlist more than anything. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #135 |
140. But if the GOP got ahold of that, they'd lower the age to 13!! |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #140 |
143. Republicans are death-hungry. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
142. The age was 18 when I was growing up... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #142 |
152. "A lot of kids I knew were killed in those years" too, in Vietnam. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #142 |
158. I understand the problem of a lower drinking age |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #158 |
164. I've never found such arguments compelling |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #164 |
165. Yes there is one magic day you become an adult... AGE 18 !!! |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 02:39 AM Response to Reply #165 |
170. For some things |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 03:01 AM Response to Reply #170 |
171. Yeah, like being able to buy alcohol legally. |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
144. I SAY NO!!! |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #144 |
154. LOL but... pot has no age limit, just a weight limit (in some states) |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
145. Either |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
150. Same age to drink - vote - enlist - sign legally binding contracts - be tried as an adult. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
153. it won't happen for financial reasons |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. From all the pot holes I see daily, I don't think that's a problem. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
157. But only for troops? Its a sign of fascism |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-24-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #157 |
160. GMAFB, pretender |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #160 |
168. Study fascist governments. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #157 |
166. I say for all 18 year olds. Someone else (a rep) said only for troops. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #166 |
169. That wouldn't bother me. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-25-08 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
163. You know if we treated alcohol differently and were more mature about it |
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