Osama bin Laden. Dead or Alive?

[onehandle]

It's either one or the other.

What say ye?

[SammyWinstonJack]

1. How would we know?

:shrug:

[onehandle]

4. Doesn't matter. What other answer could there be?

Dead or Alive. Either Bush is lying or he's failed.

On Edit: Bush appears to believe he's alive. What does that tell us?

[Ghost in the Machine]

12. Fox News: "Bin Laden Already Dead"

Fox News: "Bin Laden Already Dead"

Wednesday, December 26, 2001

Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.

Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

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The Death of bin Ladenism

Published: July 11, 2002

Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan's president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Osama's gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Osama's ghost alive or because they have no means of communication.

With an ego the size of Mount Everest, Osama bin Laden would not have, could not have, remained silent for so long if he were still alive. He always liked to take credit even for things he had nothing to do with. Would he remain silent for nine months and not trumpet his own survival?

Even if he is still in the world, bin Ladenism has left for good. Mr. bin Laden was the public face of a brand of politics that committed suicide in New York and Washington on Sept. 11, 2001, killing thousands of innocent people in the process.

What were the key elements of that politics?

The first was a cynical misinterpretation of Islam that began decades ago with such anti-Western ideologues as Maulana Maudoodi of Pakistan and Sayyid Qutb of Egypt. Although Mr. Maudoodi and Mr. Qutb were not serious thinkers, they could at least offer a coherent ideology based on a narrow reading of Islamic texts. Their ideas about Western barbarism and Muslim revival, distilled down to bin Ladenism, became mere slogans designed to incite zealots to murder.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9405EFDE1230F932A25754C0A9649C8B63
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[Township75]

2. He is alive...in all of us.

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[mcctatas]

3. Depends...

on whether or not they need to scare the people so that grandpa McSame gets elected...

[Muttocracy]

5. that's why I voted for alive - I'm not sure they were all that motivated to kill him nt

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

6. According to CBS News/60 Minutes, on 9/10/2001 Bin Laden was reportedly in a Pakistan Military

Hospital. If this was Bin Laden, do you think he can be living in caves with his illness?

Please read this fascinating account.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/28/eveningnews/main325887.shtml

[melody]

7. He's Schrodinger's terrorist

I think he's dead -- and has been for some time.

[Squatch]

9. Nevermind...

[bamacrat]

8. I think he is alive, to an extent.

If he is alive and hasn't succumbed to kidney failure, or random shrapnel, I think he is alive because the Bouche administration wants him alive. If he were dead who would they bring up when morale is low, it doesn't work, but who? Or he did his part of "the plan" and is now well protected.

[Pastiche423]

10. He died in December 2001

[undeterred]

11. Either dead and long gone

or alive and eating pretzels in a bunker under the White House.

[tomg]

13. With apologies to my wife and mom, both good union women.

I dreamed I saw Osama last night,
alive as you and me.
Says I "But Osama, we know your dead"
"Fuck you. I'm on TV,
"Fox News, I'm on TV."

"Didn't your kidneys finally give out?"
"No, and in fact, I'm feeling spry
As long as George and Dick need me,
No way I'll ever die.
George and Dick won't let me die"

"Back in the mountains, Osama,' says I,
'you must think that I am a rube,"
"Nope, got you there,' Osama says
'You see I'm on YouTube.
That's me on ol YouTube."

And standing there as big as life
Thin , fat, and Hairclub for Men
50 Osamas then sang out
"We'll come back again and again.
We'll come back again and again"

From Boemian Grove to Bilderberg,
When neocons need a lie,
To make us piss right in our pants
They'll just trot out that guy.
They'll just trot out that guy.

I dreamed I saw Osama last night,
alive as you and me.
Says I "Osama, we know your dead"
"Fox News. I'm on TV"
"YouTube and the TV."

[dixiegrrrrl]

19. That's good !!!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[JackRiddler]

20. Mind if I repost this?

Because I already have. Bravo!

[tomg]

21. Thanks. nt

[Mr Creosote]

14. Dead

but don't take my word for it

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg

[avenger64]

15. Alive. Hey, the Bushes and Bin Ladens go way back ...

... no matter how mad you may be at this renegade Sunni, killing another member of the global economic elite sets a dangerous precedent. Next thing you know, they'll be killing Czars.

[wildbilln864]

16. He's friggin dead!

link :hi:

[acmavm]

17. I think he's a deader, but I also see it as being just another in a long line

of failures for the Usurping Chimp.

[agent46]

18. Ha!

As dead as ElvisKenLaySchrodingersCat...

It's never one or the other. That's just what they want us to think!

:beer: