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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:16 PM
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My Grandfather Billy Murphy from Mayo and the Reverend Wright
most likely would have gotten along just fine. On this St. Paddy's Day I think of the struggles my mother's family had in this country when they first emigrated. Grandmother Mary Collins (supposed relative of the "great" Michael Collins, West Cork)and Granddad Billy Murphy married in Limerick before sailing for the grand United States. Grandmother's sisters had emigrated first, settled in Montclair, NJ and worked for the wealthy who were at that time in Upper Montclair. They were "in service" as was the way of things in those days. Grandmother worked for the Parish at Immaculate Conception, thereby allowing her children to attend their Catholic School for little or no tuition.

Grandfather Billy had no such luck. He was an accomplished electrician in Ireland and highly respected in the trade. The story goes that they were "dirt poor" but his decoration of their Christmas tree was something the neighbors would come to view and awe. Grandmother even allowed a bit of the "creature" if it enhanced his creativity. Of course, needless to say the "creature" caused problems down through the generations, but that would be another story. In those days Billy Murphy was greeted with "Irish Need Not Apply." The only work he could find would be through private families, word of mouth as to his talent, and many through the Parish. Construction jobs whose owners were mostly WASPS would have none of those dirty Irish monkeys working on their sites. Billy Murphy saw the end of his days very bitter, hurt, and more often than once he damned America. He damned America from every bar on Bloomfield Avenue right up on the trolley line to Tierney's.

In the early days the opportunities for many an Irish boy in this country were the priesthood, fireman, policeman, politician (hahaha)Tradesmen of Irish descent were not welcome. I look out my window now as planks are being set in the intracoastal for the upcoming boat show. Those workmen are mostly if not all of Latino descent. 'Tis the way of things I guess.

I think had Grandpa Billy and the Reverend Wright ever met and had a chat, they would have gotten along famously. I'd bet my frugal grandfather would have been happy to buy the Reverend Wright a nice cold beer with a hint of green to it on this fine St. Paddy's day.

The Reverend has a long memory, he's been around quite a few years and remembers those struggles, insults and degradations his people suffered back in the '30s,'40s and even after WWII. Each new group coming into this country has the same struggle. "'Tis the way of things." Well, maybe. The healing part comes when groups can move on, assimilate and enjoy what this wonderful country has and will offer to all. The younger generation must be informed as to how it was, it's the only way we learn not to make those mistakes of the past.

To Grandfather Billy Murphy and all of my Irish ancestors, and to the Reverend Wright and his wonderful people, my wishes and prayers for a grander day when we all say God Bless America and feel a hint of the green in our hearts.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:20 PM
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1. Repost?
Didn't I see this smarmy tribute this morning?
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:25 PM
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2. Yes, it is a repost. Sorry you think it's smarmy...n/t
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:25 PM
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3. Smarmy huh? Missed it this morning, I'm wondering now though,
are you a Hilltite? You know, like stalagtite, holding on for dear life.

Why smarmy? Is that you Coultergeist?
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:58 PM
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4. We Irish-Americans are everywhere now. Like you I see the Latinos as the "new Irish"...
...who will change the face of this country in ways we can't foresee now. They are mostly unwelcome, and they mostly do work that's necessary but low-level, often poorly paid. So did the Irish. Latinos are determined that their children have a better life, and many of them do. Latinos often long for their homeland -- and so did the Irish, as testified in many a song -- the only difference being that most immigrant Irish never could return over the seas.

My ancestors came from Ireland in the 1800s, so I don't know their struggles firsthand, though my mother and her mother and her mother passed them along, and my mother became a genealogist and documented it all.

I don't know that any of them damned America, but surely the Rev. Wright is entitled to his experiences and his opinions, however intemperately expressed in any given moment. Much has changed for African-Americans since the Civil Rights movement, but much remains to be done.

:toast: to all those who have gone before us, wherever they came from, and :toast: to all those who come after us, wherever they're going, and :toast: to all of us here right now.

Hekate
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 05:18 PM
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5. Nice post
All the comments I've heard so far reinforce my belief in that classic book 'The Racial Contract' by Charles Mills.

Seems like black people have no right to condemn their own condemnation to the bottom tier. Everyone is so fugging shocked. They should paint their skin black and walk a mile or two in New York. When a cab driven by a Pakistani refuses to pick up Dick Gregory, I say damn them all. When privileged white hacks on M$M are offended by the truth, damn them as well. Two million fugging black youth in prison for petty drugs while Bush walks free - damn him too.

By the way I'm an atheist.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 06:25 PM
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6. Thanks for a great and true reply. I'm an oldER white woman and
remember vividly what AAs had to go through at least back in the late 40s and 50s...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 08:14 PM
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7. I'm not young either and while I've never experienced
US type institutional and cultural racism in the Caribbean, others did. What's more I lived in the US and was always shocked when people were willing to include me in groups while excluding others who were born in the US. My siblings have also given me amazing stories.
What's frightening about the discussion is the way in which the M$M hacks really don't believe in free speech unless they're spreading right wing propaganda.
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