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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:52 PM
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Can we say the Iraq War is the major cause of the dollars death
I think we can
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:54 PM
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1. Or a more specific cause.... George Bush
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:55 PM
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5. He had help of the Republican controlled congress. bush is old news
his water boys are still in congress. bush couldn't have done what he did without their help.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:57 PM
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9. Yes. It's a subtler and deeper crisis of confidence attributable to W. nt
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:54 PM
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2. I'd say the war and gross mismanagement by the Republicans.
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DemocratInSoCal Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:54 PM
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3. Are You Kidding Me?
It is certainly one of the reasons, but to say that it alone brought us to this situation, is missing the mark completely.

We're really up Shit Creek right now, and there are many causes.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:55 PM
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4. NO.
Unregulated speculation in credit derivatives is the major cause. Deregulation, and loopholes invented by the ultra-greedy is the proximate cause.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:57 PM
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10. Bingo Deregulation, and loopholes invented by the ultra-greedy is the proximate cause.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:58 PM
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12. There was a tolerance of corruption by those who were supposed to be
the watch dogs.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:56 PM
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6. Yes...
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:56 PM
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7. How about the billions that America spends on the defense budget.
America spends more on the defense budget than the whole world combined; money that goes to American corporation and stock holders - but for what? So America can be a "empire" over the nations of the world?
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:02 PM
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18. If we had only spent all that money on healthcare or solar power research or...
education, this would be the best country on Earth. Now we are on the precipice of total economic disaster that hasn't been seen for almost 70 years.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:14 PM
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21. or if we spent all that money on Mass transit and Solar power
and Congress has to come to grip with getting us OUT
we can't keep paying for War

with what???
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:56 PM
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8. bushco and their conservative criminal henchmen are the major cause of the dollar's........
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 10:57 PM by Double T
(and America's) death.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:58 PM
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11. It is one of many causes
Certainly no country can funnel as much money as the US has into the financial vortex of war and not expect to suffer economic consequences.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:59 PM
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13. 1 President to fuck it all up.
Iraq War
Tax Breaks during said war
Weak foreign investments because of dumb President
The bankers allowing the housing bubble to run out of control

This and so much more. Bush lead this country all right, right down the toilet.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:59 PM
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14. Insofar as it was one of the major examples of mismanagement....
...perpetrated by the incumbent administration, yes. But it's just one of a number of factors, all of which can be gathered under a single heading: greed. BushCo worked flat out to enrich themselves and their cronies as quickly as possible, by whatever means necessary. Looting the tax base, beating the war drums and siphoning billions to defense contractors, giving the oil companies free rein to loot the public. You name it, they've done it.

And you can bet all those riches aren't sitting in any US dollar accounts. They're tucked up nice and safe in hard currencies. Like the Renmimbi.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:00 PM
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15. Also, because the republican congress spent money
like drunken sailors.

There was no pay as you go.

With the tax breaks there was also not enough money to spend without borrowing.

George's money policies have been a major F*** UP.

Voodoo economics.

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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:00 PM
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16. Actually, this is the same permanent crisis that started in the early 1970s...
Everything since has been an effort to find different ways to deal with it, using various neoliberal, plunder and imperialism strategies, but above all: financial speculation as a replacement for the profits that no longer come from production.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:01 PM
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17. no you can't, well you can but thats not correct.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:08 PM
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19. Mix Unpaid For War, Nafta, Deregulation, Unchecked Financial
Markets and Corporate greed. Stir in an idiot in the White House and presto, you've made a Depression.
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:09 PM
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20. How do we get out of it?
The American government must print its own dollars and not the private corporation called the Federal Reserve.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:16 PM
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22. We can save billions and trillions of dollars by leaving Iraq
and use that money to get us back on our feet

i bet the dollar would rise if Congress said tomorrow we are leaving iraq
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 11:25 PM
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23. interest rates
I think a major cause of the dollar's decline was Greenspan and Bush's constantly reducing interest rates to pump up the economy, which caused the housing bubble. Furthermore, keeping interest rates artificially low cheapens the dollar in itself. Had we bumped up interest rates, this would have attracted more investment to this country. We might have had a recession earlier on, but a smaller one which would not have threatened our financial institutions.

That, and of course Iraq.
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