Lest we forget what black people had to go through

[gabeana]

warning graphic photos at link
http://www.withoutsanctuary.org/main.html

I am a college professor and I wil be showing these photos to my students tommorow. These lynchings were celebrations, bring the whole family out,pose with the corpse. Have the picture made into a postcard. If your lucky cut a lock of the victims hair and pass it down as a family heirloom.
Many of these men were innocent. This is for Ms. Steinem, this happened after the black man got the vote.

[devilgrrl]

1. Had to go through? They still go through it.

BTW, what's Gloria Steinem have to do with this?

[gabeana]

2. she basically said Black men had it easier because

they got the vote before women

[EFerrari]

4. Yes, she did. I'm hoping it was premature senile dementia.

What do you teach, history?

[gabeana]

6. American History, Ethnic Studies, and Chicano Studies

[EFerrari]

11. Is it still possible to teach those subjects?

Good for you, gabeana. I hope your students appreciate their opportunity.

[gabeana]

15. I tell my students that they are trying to eliminate

these classes. The conservatives are trying eliminate critical thinking

[EFerrari]

20. I left Berkeley / grad English in 1994. Was teaching

English 1A/B.

Is it really that bad now? I see it every day in the corporate media. It's painful to know that my cousins won't enjoy the academic freedom I took for granted.

[gabeana]

22. I have academic freedom

I have a large following so that gives me some leverage. i have the lowest drop rate at the college. Students do want to hear the other side of history.

[MaryCeleste]

23. They are not nearly in vogue as they once were as majors

Something about being unmarketable. It is interesting to see when those topics drift into other classes with decimal points (math...) makes for interesting discussions. I see them more as education/enrichment rather than the tradeschool many of the majors are today.

[gabeana]

25. I don't disagree with you in that they are not appreciated

but i tell my students that history is the most important subject they can take, because the study of history covers everything. If we as a collective had a better understanding of history people would not have bought the Iraq War

[MaryCeleste]

32. The cost of higher education being what it is, few seem interested in general or broad education

favoring instead fields that pay well enough to pay back the student loans. I assume you are tenured. I am an adjunct in the technical area who has a *real* job.

[devilgrrl]

5. Really... Jesus, what year is it?

:crazy:

[gabeana]

3. she basically said Black men had it easier because

they got the vote before women

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[devilgrrl]

8. Yeah, blacks have it so good these days, I keep forgetting.

:sarcasm:

That dragging incident in Jasper, TX never happened, it was a figment of my imagination. Oh but James Bird wasn't lynched - that makes it okay. Right?

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[EFerrari]

14. Are you kidding or are you just lost?

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[EFerrari]

21. So, you're not kidding. Got it.

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[EFerrari]

33. I'm sorry you have no access to The Goggle which could show you

in a minute that you're not only wrong but embarrassingly wrong.

Have a good night.

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[gabeana]

16. This is the person the clintons campaign is going after.

Their subtle racism at work

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[gabeana]

24. Hey I am just letting your posts speak for themselves

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[EFerrari]

13. Jena.

[cornermouse]

9. A lot of lynchings and/or shootings (after the fact for the shootings) were

celebrations and it was not that uncommon to take pictures of the corpses innocent or guilty; Bonnie and Clyde, the James Gang, the Dalton Gang, etc. Of course, there were the women and some men who were accused of being witches in Salem. I believe public hangings of what were frequently poor people guilty of misdemeanors or less in merry old England complete with audiences and party type atmospheres were not uncommon also. Grisly keepsakes were also something of a tradition. As a professor, you should know that.

[gabeana]

10. You are trying to compare the lynchings of a few

celebrity lynchings to a systmatic reign of terrorism against the black population in the United States. Where thousands were lynched and it continued into world war 2. Where black soldiers accounted for 80% of U.S. soldiers executed by their own country but made up only 9% of U.S. service members. My classes are full but i'm sure I can find a seat for you

[EFerrari]

17. Did you see that a little while after Katrina, the residents of

the 9th Ward were allowed to go back via a bus to see their neighborhood but had to be out by sundown?

I wish I had saved a link to that news item.

[MaryCeleste]

26. That was race independent

After all the crap that went down, there is still a over reaction towards control in NO (something quite out of its prior character)

[EFerrari]

29. It was very much in the tradition of sundown towns.

There's so much going on in this area in our country and we are so little aware of it. Like the fact that Republicans steal elections on the backs of mostly black voters.

The gap between our national narrative and our reality is so wide.

[MaryCeleste]

34. I can't agree with that, it was for *everyone*

not just one race or group. Not that I don't think there was some underlying racism in parts of the Katrina disaster, but that was not inherently racist.

[EFerrari]

35. The response to Katrina has been to decimate the black community there.

That some white people were treated as "black" along the way is beside the point.


New Orleans to Raze Public Housing

Many Units Closed Since Katrina to Be Demolished, Despite Protests

By Julia Cass and Peter Whoriskey
Special to The Washington Post and Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 8, 2006; A03

NEW ORLEANS, Dec. 7 -- Public housing officials decided Thursday to proceed with the demolition of more than 4,500 government apartments here, brushing aside an outcry from residents displaced by Hurricane Katrina who said the move was intended to reduce the ability of poor black people to repopulate the city.

Residents and their advocates made emotional, legal and what they called common-sense arguments against demolition at the housing authority meeting. "The day you decide to destroy our homes, you will break a lot of hearts," said Sharon Pierce Jackson, who lived in one of the now-closed projects slated to be razed. "We are people. We are not animals."

She and others questioned why the Department of Housing and Urban Development would destroy affordable housing in New Orleans, saying it is essential to the city's recovery.

C. Donald Babers, the federally appointed administrator running the Housing Authority of New Orleans, did not respond to that question in tersely approving the demolitions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/07/AR2006120701482_pf.html

[cornermouse]

30. My point is that historically speaking more than "a few" people got hung for all

sorts of reasons without being black or men or even adult, none of which involved what we would consider a crime. Parties at the time and scene of execution were not unusual and again, were not limited to black men. Talismans and pictorial mementos celebrating their demise were not unusual nor was the practice limited to black men. People began as barbarians and, given our current president's passion for torture, apparently that has not changed. You seem to have missed it.

As far as taking your history class? I can't believe I'm saying this because I have several teachers and a couple of graduates of doctoral programs in my family and have always supported teachers and schools in my vicinity, but no thanks.

[SeattleGirl]

28. And this is exactly why things like hanging nooses from trees

is NOT funny, is NOT a joke, is NOT a prank.

I had seen some of these photos before, but never this large a collection. I'm glad you are teaching your students about this, as they need to know and understand this ugly bit of "Americana". And hopefully they will come to a better understanding of some of the racial issues in this country that are with us to this day.