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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:27 PM
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Fuck "Faith" ......
..... as a political issue. I want to scream every time I hear some talking head fuckwad (like Matthews) refer to a candidate's 'faith'.

Fuck a candidate's faith. I don't want it in my political system and I bet you don't either. A good deal of the world's ills go back to 'faith'.

Faith for individuals is fine'n'dandy. Just keep it individual. But in the public arena .......

.... Fuck Faith.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:29 PM
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1. Can we tax it? No? Then it can't be worth much....
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:30 PM
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2. But "Faith" is essential to believe in "Hope" & "Change", particularly without facts. n/t
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:31 PM
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3. There is that. Without faith, you're left with thought and facts.
Those things are so messy!!
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:36 PM
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5. And facts are such messy, pesky things! n/t
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:36 PM
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4. You nailed that one. n/t
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:39 PM
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7. Ooooh Jody
that was a good one! LOL, big chuckle here followed by a little tear. :( So sad.
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MaraJade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:43 PM
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8. Yes, indeedy!
After all, we need to have FAITH that the Repubs won't stonewall in Congress and stop the trend for
hope and change that is rolling on through this mighty nation. WE HOPE that the troops can be removed from
Iraq within six months after inauguration day, and we really hope that we can get them back there within thirty
days if there's trouble. (Oh LAWDY) we have FAITH that the K-Street crowd will stop
controlling what happens on Wall Street and Main Street, and that Corporate America will see the light and
understand the damage they are causing to the middle class. Let's all just get along. . .

What high hopes we have! What FAITH! ~~ What High Apple-Pie in the Sky HOPES. . .~~
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:00 PM
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16. Touché, jody. . .

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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:37 PM
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6. But...but...
how will candidates pander to the Christian supremacists and other tribalists? That's such an integral part of our political system, the Republic might fall without it!:sarcasm:
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:44 PM
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9. Thank you, I think you may have finally helped me figure out why
I can't get "fired up" for Obama. I do not go for this blind faith thing of the religious, and I think that might also have something to do with my feelings here ,I can't abide blind faith, it doesn't work for me.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:45 PM
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10. I want to vomit every time I hear that being used. Never being Christian, I almost feel like
holding up a cross to ward those people off.
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pegleg Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:45 PM
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11. Oh boo hoo
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:48 PM
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12. Yoo too boo hoo ......
..... yoo noo?
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:49 PM
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13. I had an argument with a guy about Obama being a Muslim.
He's a neo-con so obviously he thought Obama was a Muslim, no matter how many times it's been debunked. I asked him why it would be bad to have a Muslim president. He said "we are at war with the Muslims, they hate our way of life." Oh, ok.. I see, all Muslims hate us. Ok. "So what religion are you" I asked him. He proudly replied, painting himself into a corner, "Baptist". I had him now.. "So then I guess you wouldn't vote for yourself for president?" He looked at me with that neo-con you must be an idiot look. "What are you talking about, Baptists don't hate our way of life and we aren't at war." God I love it when they set themselves up to look like fools. I replied, "so then I take it you've never heard of Fred Phelps and the Westborough Baptist church? They protest at the funerals of American Soldiers and claim they deserve to die because America accepts homosexuality." The color drained from his face as he replied "well they don't represent all Baptists". I felt like Jack fucking McCoy, and I made my closing argument. "So then if we were to have a Muslim run it would be ok since no one person represents an entire religion?" His closer? "Well, we're at war".

Kinda off topic but a good look into the mind of a person who thinks religion is a litmus test for holding office.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:55 PM
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14. You devious devil!
:rofl: :hi:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:03 PM
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19. Thanks! Normally, I come up with the best lines 2 hours later but
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 09:03 PM by walldude
this was the second such debate. I didn't do quite so well with the first guy (he wasn't a Baptist so that wouldn't have helped) this time I was prepared.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:02 PM
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18. Very good. . .
I'm sure I'll use that in the future . . .
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:58 PM
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15. Faith
More moronic ravings from the spiritually retarded.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:02 PM
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17. Oooh, might have found me a new sig line...
good post :)

Sid
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:03 PM
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20. How else am I supposed to vote for an idealized version of myself??! !
;)
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:08 PM
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21. Hill, or Ford?? n/t
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:09 PM
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22. what is the difference between "faith" and wishful thinking?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:22 PM
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23. Spelling and pronunciation? n/t
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