I just spit my brocholi and cheddar soup!

[lonestarnot]

My Ma tells me my ignorant fucking brother voted for that fucking McDrain. I will spit in his eye the next time I lay eyes on him.

[cbayer]

1. Hope your mouth is not full of hot soup when you spit. nt.

[gateley]

2. My niece told me that she thinks her brother -- my precious nephew --

will vote for McCain. This will be his first year voting.

She said he's concerned about the War on Terror.

Let me tell you why this breaks my heart. Sean is a selfless, loving, giving individual. Truly a GOOD person, and he has been ever since he was little.
I know in his heart he feels he wants to help protect us, and others, from the fanatics who want to bring harm to non-believers. I know his motives are pure and just. But he just doesn't understand.

It's my brother whose eye I feel like spitting in -- how could he not give better guidance to his son?

He's also talked of ROTC. Both his sister and I decided he wouldn't have the opportunity - we'd whisk him out of the country. And we would.

[Ilsa]

3. See if you can find that stats that will show him that the WOT is

creating more terrorists than ever. She him that Afghanistan is a mess and the poppy crop profits are going to the Taliban. This WOT isn't fixing anything.

Good luck. I know it must be a burden to even think about. I'm not sure if I'd have the energy for it unless I felt certain I could change his mind.

[gateley]

7. I fear that bombarding him with the facts might not MEAN much to him.

I don't think he's got a deep interest in politics, and I know before I did, I didn't pay attention to that "crap".

He lives on the other side of the country and I wish I was there to lovingly explain TRUTH. I plan on phoning him and hope to begin a dialogue - a real conversation (which isn't that easy with an 18 year old) and try to "help" him that way.

If worse comes to worst, I'll be moving back home I HOPE before the election, so I can work my magic then. Or lock him in the closet.

Thanks for your concern - it truly is upsetting to me.

[lonestarnot]

25. As it should be.

I know that is a tough age, 18. Maybe you could start with the top 1% and see how he feels about their ownership of 60% of the wealth in the country? :shrug:

[Duke Newcombe]

5. Kids have freedom of choice...

...even to choose things we don't think are wise.

If those on the right cannot be held responsible that their grown children aren't signing up in droves for Iraq, we cannot be responsible when things like this happen.

When we have the client/server mind-control system implanted in our children at birth, _maybe_... :)

Duke

[gateley]

8. Yes, but I would feel better if he made that choice knowing the facts. I don't

think he does.

[lonestarnot]

6. What a shame, bet your brother would let your nephew sacrifice himself

for an McDrain pile of crap war with Iran too. Can't you talk to him?

[gateley]

10. My brother isn't involved in politics - although he always votes Dem to the

best of my knowledge. He doesn't know what we know -- he's like a lot of Americans thinking that life will keep chugging along regardless of who's in the WH. I'm guessing, but I think my brother isn't really aware that Iran is a definite possibility - or what that might entail.

I'll talk to him and see where he stands on this.

[lonestarnot]

15. Well certainly talk to your nephew. Someone needs to sounds like.

The sad thing about my brother is that he is a surrenderee to the wifie and she is a pug and so is her family. Ack! He's just a puppydog if you know what I mean.

[rockymountaindem]

14. Talk him out of it, then

I think a lot of people on our side of the debate take the position that the value of our ideas are self-evident and that anybody who doesn't latch on to them naturally can't be reached. If more people would take the role of leading people they know personally over to our side by just talking to them and trading on your good personal relationship as a means of being taken seriously, I think we'd all be better off as a party.

[peace13]

4. Don't' feel alone.

My stepsister and her husband both went for McMurder and their lovely daughters ( no sarcasm)went for Mittens. They are Army and that explains some of it. Peace, Kim

[lonestarnot]

9. I don't feel alone; I feel pissed that he could be so fucking stupid.

[peace13]

13. I hear that! n/t

[gateley]

11. You know, I sincerely honor and respect everyone's right to choose who they

want -- even Republicans! -- but what truly frightens me is that so many people don't fully grasp the gravity of our current situation.

[peace13]

12. I agree.

My young nephew, 24 yrs old in the home building business. He needed a loan and while I am not much for that we decided to lend him the money (he has two young children and a wife). As he signed the loan agreement I impressed upon him my thoughts that things in Ohio are still on the downward spiral and that he needed to be sure and vote. It would have been very easy for me to tell him who to vote for, as he had asked. I told him that he would have to decide that one. It is everyones right to decide. Even if it is a bad decision. Peace, kim

[lonestarnot]

16. And you left it at that? "he would have to decide that one." No guidance or comparisons, no input?

Bad decisions based on what?

[peace13]

18. Well , I do feel that people have a right to decide for themselves.

I would not tell my son who to vote for, that is all part of the process. This young man is from southern Ohio and deep into religion. He would not think like I do about most things political. I feel that it would be immoral for me to tell him who to vote for knowing that more than likely it would be someone that he would not pick. I want him to decide. I may not be expressing myself clearly here. I was not comfortable telling him who, especially when I was lending him money. Go figure. My guess is that he won't vote, he will let god sort it out for him. In which case all is even. If he does take my advice and dig a little he will find his answer. Peace, Kim

[lonestarnot]

22. I'm not saying you need to vote for him, just volunteer some comparisons, what's so fucking wrong

about truth? You said he was "deep into religion." So truth, is that part of that "religion" stuff?

[tsuki]

17. Daughter informed me that she is voting McCain unless I can

convince her otherwise.

She is coming to visit in April. Her burka is almost finished. I am embroidering "I voted Republican" on the face scarf.

I am sure she will enjoy it.

:evilgrin:

[orleans]

19. LOL! what a nice gift! and so thoughtful!

:evilgrin: :evilgrin:

[AlCzervik]

20. you fing rock! Think you can make one i can send to my sister in law?

[tsuki]

21. It's simple, at least the way I'm doing it.

Take 45" wide black material, Velcros, poster board, white chalk, and the old sewing machine.

Make a tent with arms, sew it up, put a slit in the back to be closed with Velcros.

Make a large hood, sew a piece of poster board across the brow, attach it, then add the scarf.

Might want to use embroidery paint rather than try to embroidery. I am thinking about chucking the scarf and making a new one with paint.

It's a crude job, but it does say it all.

[lonestarnot]

23. Wooot! Wonderful!

:evilgrin: :hug:

[SoCalDem]

24. brocholi?? Italian or Korean?

:evilgrin:

I knew you meant broccoli..just messin' with you :)

[mdmc]

26. what is so bad about that?

:shrug:

So did my mom (even though she promised to vote for Ron Paul). My republican girlfriend and father voted for Ron Paul.

In the general they will all vote for Obama (my mom will vote for Clinton, if she is the nom).

Hang in there, it ain't that bad.

[donsu]

27. give him the stats on how many men are coming back without their genitals

from road bombs, etc. it is not just legs being blown off.

that might make him think.

and how will he feel when he kills a kid.

[havocmom]

28. My bro isn't speaking to me AGAIN, because I debunked anti-Pelosi lying email

and hit REPLY ALL

AGAIN.

[lpbk2713]

29. He has obviously not been paying attention for the past seven years.

Sit down and have an eyeball-to-eyeball with him and educate

him on just how corrupt and evil the rethuglicans truly are.

And tell him to stop listening to the RW Radio Hatemongers.