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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:25 PM
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"she will leave the Democratic Party"
was something that I heard on ABC This Week. I came in the middle and have no idea who was the subject, I think it had something to do with superdelegates.

Anyone has any idea?
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:26 PM
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1. concerning a christmas party
they were leaving the democratic party cause she got so snuckered she started playing with the copy machine.

*joke and I dont know who she is*
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:27 PM
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2. "She had freckles on her butt ...."
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:46 PM
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28. No, I think that's a country-western song. nt
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:49 PM
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31. I think you're right: "She had freckles on her but(t) ... she was beautiful."
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:27 PM
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3. Donna Brazile said she would give up her super delegate status if they decide the nominee.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 03:30 PM by Drunken Irishman
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:28 PM
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8. not what I heard her say yesterday on CNN, she said she is a lifelong dem and will remain one
but will give up her superdelegate status if she can't exercise it for the people.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:29 PM
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9. I'm just going off what I see on here.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:29 PM
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11. What she said was if the Super Delegates decide , she will leave,Who is her candidate? I don't think
she endorsed anyone but I don't keep track of her.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:30 PM
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13. Ok, thanks!
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:32 PM
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17. Thanks. I was never impressed with her comments on CNN
or the way she ran the Gore campaign, so I don't know that it will be such a loss.

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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:23 PM
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44. ... my thoughts exactly ... I thought she'd already LEFT the party ...
:thumbsdown:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:47 PM
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29. Then why does she accept being a super delegate?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:27 PM
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4. Donna Brazile has been quoted as saying that if her candidate doesn't win, she'll leave
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:27 PM
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5. Quote?
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:49 PM
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32. Quote:
"If 795 of my colleagues decide this election, I will quit the Democratic Party. I feel very strongly about this," Donna Brazile told CNN this week.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:51 PM
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36. yes she never said anything about "her candidate" winning.
She wants the people voting in primaries and caucuses to decide.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:28 PM
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7. Good riddance to another republik mole... n/t
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:31 PM
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41. I'm with you - I believe she's an RNC operative as well.
I think that as his Campaign Manager, she sabotaged Al Gore's 2000 Presidential Campaign.

And I think she fed Gore Campaign info to her best friend, Karl Rove!

Fuck Donna Brazile and the elephant she rode in on!
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:29 PM
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12. where will donna go? and who will give her another superdelegate
vote so her fucking vote is worth 10,000 of our votes?

she won't leave. idle threat.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:51 PM
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34. She's been speaking against the idea that her vote should be worth
10,000 of our votes. She's on your side. You'd know that if you'd read before attacking.

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:47 PM
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45. She can always resign as a super delegate
it is not as if anyone is holding gun to her head

If she does not like the idea of a super delegate - and there is a lot to dislike, then the honorable thing to do is to step down regardless of how this is played.
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CTD Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:30 PM
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14. That's NOT what she said.
She was referring to if the super delegates end up deciding the nomination. Her exact quote was, "If 795 of my colleagues decide this election, I will quit the Democratic Party."


Hmm... Distorting what someone actually said... Why am I not surprised?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:31 PM
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15. No.. what she SAID was this..
IF there are shenanigans with the super delegates, and they strip the victory from the apparent "winner", she will leave. I am assuiming that she backs Obama, but either way, this whole "super-delegate" thing is gonna bite us on the ass...bigtime..

It's worse than the electoral college thing and is right up there with the Scalia-5 who chose Bush..

It smacks of "we know better than YOU" who "should be" president, so we'll let you all vote, but the proportional delegate splits will make it difficult for the leader to amass enough votes, so WE'LL decide FOR you..so don't worry your little brains about it...
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:33 PM
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18. That's what I said - If her candidates doesn't win she'll quit the Party.
Thanks for confirming that.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:35 PM
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21. So if HC had one more vote than O, and the supers decided he was more electable,
you'd be OK with them taking it away from her? :shrug:
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:36 PM
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22. I'd stay in the Party and vote for our nominee.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 03:37 PM by MethuenProgressive
Unlike Obama supporters.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:41 PM
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26. I will vote for whomever is on the ballot in Nov, but I also
know that if 50% of the electorate gets demoralized, the superb turnout and the landslide we had all hoped for might turn this thing into a squeaker...or maybe even a loss :(

we HAVE to get those Reagan/Bush administration papers released, like they should have been in Jan '01..and the only way that's gonna happen is for a dem to move into 1600 Pa ave.

My suspicion is that once those papers (even the sanitized versions) get out into the sunlight, there's going to be some interesting stuff coming to light..

The whole reason St Ronnie is idolized, is because the truth of his & GHWB's tenure has never been released..
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:34 PM
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19. No. Said that she'd leave if the superdelegates decide the
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 03:36 PM by mycritters2
nomination in a way not in keeping with the popular vote. I saw her say it on CNN the other day. She didn't specify a candidate, though I assume she's for Clinton.

On edit: The quote is in this article:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4261986&page=1
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:28 PM
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6. Donna Brazile...
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:39 PM
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25. thanks for the link
"If 795 of my colleagues decide this election, I will quit the Democratic Party. I feel very strongly about this," Brazile said.

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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:29 PM
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10. Donna Brazile may just go nest
with her buddy KKKarl Rove. She does not like the super delegate rules since Clinton will win the nomination with the powerful help of super delegates.

Donna Barzile is a super delegate herself, but her vote won't matter until the Convention, so she's trying to evoke attention by making statements like this as if it was a tantrum. More like a Borderline Personality Disorder from where I'm sitting.

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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:38 PM
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23. She's always been a loyal, hardworking Dem.
I don't understand the attacks on her here. Talk about eating our own!!
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:51 PM
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35. I don't really care one way or the other about Donna.
She is nice enough..........her personal issues are oozing out as of late and she has fallen off the fence of objectivity. She may regain her balance, but at the moment, she is off her game. Maybe too many carbohydrates and coffee? :shrug:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:53 PM
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38. How is she not objecitive? She hasn't endorsed anyone,
and is working to see to it that the popular vote decides the nomination.

"If 795 of my colleagues decide this election, I will quit the Democratic Party. I feel very strongly about this," Donna Brazile told CNN this week.


What would be objective, in your opinion?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:17 PM
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40. Repeating statements, as a Media Democratic Strategist and commentator
she shares boldly her personal reaction to well established Rules within the Democratic Party By-laws, "I'll leave the Democratic Party if the super delegates make the decision".

That's not objective but subjective.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:32 PM
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16. Donna Brazile has repeatedly made a statement that if the
super delegates overturn the clear sentiment of the voting public and give the nomination to the one that was not the clear choice of the primary season she would leave the party.

She has built up the schtick to include, "I am not faster than a speedy bullet, don't have a cape and you don't want to see me in spandex".


The Clinton supporter with the Obama/cult smear icon above is not correct in that she has said anything about "her candidate" she has stayed impartial and said good things about all of the candidates including the two remaining.

A very classy woman.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:34 PM
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20. Buh Bye
see ya Donna. changing the rules in mid stream?
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:39 PM
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24. You think the superdelegates should decide the nomination
even if they go against the elected delegates? Doesn't seem very Dem to me.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:44 PM
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27. rachel maddow's take on this:
RACHEL MADDOW: I‘m not happy with the idea of the council of elders taking over in the case of a tie. I mean, elections are sometimes about things being very close and you let the voters decide. I mean, in this case, you let the voters‘ delegates to decide. I don‘t think there needs to be a star chamber or some group of wise men to put the brakes on what the voters are going to decide. It could get messy; it could be a process that takes a long time. That‘s OK.

snip

DAN ABRAMS: Let me tell you about the absurdity of this, alright? You got a teamsters member as superdelegates, you got the president of United Federation of Teachers, you got an attorney who represents the Washington State Democratic Party, you got an Oregon political activist and blogger, I mean, you know, this is nuts. These people have the equivalent of 10,000 votes each.

MADDOW: And that tells you, this is designed to be a council of elders that‘s designed to make things better when the voters don‘t do the right thing. It's insulting.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23069793

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4501680
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:47 PM
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30. This is what Brazile is saying, too.
So, I don't understand the attacks on her. She's advocating *gasp* democracy!
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:50 PM
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33. obviously i misunderstood what she was saying
because i totally think there should be NO SUPERDELEGATES!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:51 PM
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37. Indeed. Obviously.
:eyes:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 05:17 PM
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43. sorry for being so honest when hit back with your sarcasm
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:06 PM
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46. Then she should just quit as a superdelegat
why wait to see how they vote?

Personally, I think that they will vote for the one who received most of the... now, votes or delegates?

We don't need to look at super delegates to wonder about the cases, as it was in Nevada and perhaps other places, where the one who won the most votes did not get the most delegates.



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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:48 PM
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42. what I think is that it's a bit late to
start changeing things
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:03 PM
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39. Kinda creepy, seeing real politics imitate DU
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