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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:44 PM Original message |
A friend's message: "JRE out, and I'm emigrating to Italy" |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. Get your Italian passport. And if you're young, make sure they've gotten rid of |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
78. Interesting, I wonder |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. If you aren't from an EU country, it is TOUGH finding work--you're in that |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #82 |
109. Right, but it seems as though some of these "bloodline connections," skill set helped, in her case |
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End Of The Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
2. How can they afford it... |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 06:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
93. Good point, in fact the lousy dollar is a big reason-- young professionals can build up Euro savings |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. "drifting into fascism" |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
60. yes, I heartily suggest |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. I doubt that makes any of the above nations |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I think my point is |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 04:16 AM Response to Reply #64 |
121. All the Europeans I know who lived under fascism have long recognized what we are. |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 07:50 AM Response to Reply #60 |
117. Lots of them agree with that assessment |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 05:22 AM Response to Reply #3 |
115. Indeed, grammatically speaking |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. Isn't Italy's PM a total Wingnut? |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
66. that was Berscoluni |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:30 AM Response to Reply #4 |
75. No, that was last week's PM. |
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UncleSepp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. LOL Good one. |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 07:31 AM Response to Reply #79 |
116. They have a government? |
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UncleSepp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. LOL Good one. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'd been planning to retire to Ireland for 5 or 6 years before Bush came to power. With the dollar |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. We're planning on moving to Germany later this year. |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Du bist herzlich willkommen! |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Ah, du bist aufgewacht, Flocke! |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I´ve waken up and have seen the light, looking forward |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Vielen Danke! |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Yippee! Bavaria soon has another DUer on the Autobahn |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. LOL |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Please remember LynzM ... there´s life outside of DU |
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DaLittle Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-07-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
127. YES IT IS GETTING TOWARD ... TIME TO GO... AMERICA IS NOT BECOMING BUT HAS IN FACT BECOME A FASCIST |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. You'll miss ALL the fun!! |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 04:01 AM Response to Reply #29 |
120. Only two autobahn experiences to share. |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. She lives right down the street from me |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Hahaha.... |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. So doll, when you get here |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Hey, speak for yourself, I want to meet her in the city! |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. but of course, we'll do both |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Oooh, we can do that, too.... |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. You bet, lady.... |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. It's the difference between starving and eating... |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Hey 48percenter ... did you see how easy that was? |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. well, we ARE friendly locals, LOL |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. and you are probably alot more friendly ... |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Moi ici?? |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. I never give an informant´s name in this forum. |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Ich muss meine Hausaufgabe machen, jetzt, SOFORT!! |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
57. Hey! |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. Thanks for the ROCK! |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Ja wohl! Das stimmt. |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. A long time ago, in a land far, far away, the sun was shining |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Hey one more post and you break 800! |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Thanks for the ADDICTION! |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. My pleasure!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. A valid passport is a valuable document |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
8. Um, Italy's center-left coalition just collapsed, the PM resigned, and Berlusconi is ... |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Probably not because of the candidate |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. I tried years ago to get legal standing but my grandfather had naturalized |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
12. Hate to burst your friend's bubble |
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bikebloke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Tried it. |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. This looks like a conspiracy, 48percenter |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. yes! ;) |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Just when I thought it was safe to open my eyes |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I'm only 48percenter |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Sorry, it´s the overdose on antibiotics and General Discussion |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. don't go into GD: P, you'lll have a relapse! |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I´ve already peeked in there, it´s scary |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Nice how we hijacked the OP's thread, huh? |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. We´re going to the Wiener Opernball for the evening |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
14. We've done drifted |
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sjdnb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
18. Personally, I'd pick a Nordic country ... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
40. I looked into ancestry visas |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. You can always make a "long legal visit" |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. this thread is now flaming thanks to our hijack |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. It´s a Hijack, it´s a nasty job, but somebody has to do it! |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. It's harder than most people think |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. and Italy requires a parent |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-11-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #61 |
128. Hmm, I have encountered many cases of "post-Ellis Islanders" getting residency in Italy |
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ProgressiveFool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
58. I've been thinking about moving to Europe (specifically Germany) off and on since college |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
59. The worse things get here in the States |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. I hope you're right |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #68 |
111. Well, at least in Germany seems like they are welcoming to Americans, Asians, others |
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Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
62. We may be heading for Australia in a couple years... |
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BooScout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:51 AM Response to Reply #62 |
103. You do know Australia has age restrictions .... |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #62 |
112. Have actually been hearing some less kind words about Australia from some emigrants |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Howard's out of power (by a landslide) -and "work choices" is dead |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 01:34 AM Response to Reply #114 |
119. Right, I also expect some improvement post-Howard, though the sheer dryness of Australia |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
65. As a college professor, I would take a huge hit in salary to work in Germany or France. |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #65 |
86. Interesting, with the way the Euro has risen and dollar plummeted, |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #86 |
91. The exchange rate only matters when you're buying something from another country |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. But again, EARNING money in Euros seems to be the draw, not spending savings |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #65 |
92. But look WHERE you would be. What here compares historically, architecturally, culturally, ...? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 04:20 AM Response to Reply #65 |
122. Wow, you must've landed a sweet position in the States. |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-14-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #122 |
129. I've also heard that-- European universities sweet for professors, paid tuition for students |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
67. understandable |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
69. Makes sense if you are still young enough to adapt |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 04:50 AM Response to Reply #69 |
87. Sad but sound |
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KillCapitalism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
70. I'm looking at heading somewhere more friendly towards Socialists. |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
71. wish I could move to Germany, I really like it. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:39 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Ich also |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #72 |
84. Sweet, yeah they've got a rockin' blues scene there too, and |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:12 AM Response to Original message |
73. Sigh..... |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 12:52 AM Response to Reply #73 |
107. Heh, I sympathize-- though she said Germany e.g. takes those with English/Scots ancestry |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:25 AM Response to Original message |
74. I hate to be a downer but |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #74 |
106. Actually, she was saying that Eurozone countries were a better bet than |
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Liberalboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
76. We moved to Canada |
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shenmue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
77. Coward. |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #77 |
85. It already has happened, dumbass-- she's just the latest in a wave |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:21 AM Response to Reply #85 |
101. Some people just have sour grapes, so they can make whine |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
81. Gawd, even if this country weren't fascistic I'd want to move to Italy. |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #81 |
88. Gorgeous country, I agree |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
83. Hubby and I are retirement age and we have been planning our escape to Panama |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
89. i wish your friend well |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #89 |
95. Damn right about the soccer |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
90. Yes, IMO it has. |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 07:21 AM Response to Reply #90 |
105. Yeah, a lot of ducks to line up, but she said language/contacts are key |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
96. Belice is an English-speaking nation! |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 03:47 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Yeah, never been there but heard |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 04:10 AM Response to Original message |
98. I will not abandon my country to these fascists |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 04:17 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. I hear you |
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margotb822 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:41 AM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Damn right |
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BooScout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 05:14 AM Response to Original message |
100. I'm someone who has done it.....some words of advice.... |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-11-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #100 |
104. Yeah, even she acknowledged many of these things |
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BooScout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-25-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #104 |
113. Sounds like a lot of my thoughts...... |
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KatyMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-03-08 04:38 AM Response to Reply #104 |
123. There's an interesting book |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 05:47 AM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Yeah, it's fascinating that even then Berlusconi lost to Romano Prodi, a more liberal leader |
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Demagitator (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
108. Democracy is dead.... |
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Angela Shelley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. Your insight is appreciated, but |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-28-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #108 |
118. Boring is as boring does |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-05-08 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
125. abandoning your own country to fascists |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-07-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Dude, she has concluded that the fascists already control this place, and she does not want |
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