My mother, a liberal Democrat, HATED Jimmy Carter..

[Hawkeye-X]

She claims he was anti-Semite - true?

[movonne]

1. If you read you know better than that...

[physioex]

2. False

I believe Carter wrote a book on this topic. The true anti-smites are the fundie Xtians that give blind support to Israel.

[aquart]

5. Riiiight.

Supporting Israel is always wrong for some. Because of the Jews, you know.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

16. So you're saying fundie Xtians aren't anti-semites?

I suppose they love black people and gays, right?

[physioex]

36. LOL.....

Can't utter a word of critcism without being mischaracterized.

[timtom]

49. More like because of the Palestinians you know.

[wuushew]

3. Maybe she was confusing Jimmy Carter with Richard Nixon

Carter is a living saint.

[Fed_Up_Grammy]

4. A lot of people hated Jimmuh !!! Four awful years.

[TheDebbieDee]

9. Jimmy Carter WAS and IS a good man........

but, as President, he was OFTEN ineffective!

[Thothmes]

47. President Carter

was probably the most honest man to occupy the oval office in a century. But it seemed he was in over his head. He inherited a crummy economy and was unsuccessful in correcting the problems. I alway liked him but IMO he was ineffective as the President of the United States. Maybe a little dishonesty is a prerequisite for the job.

[backscatter712]

57. Not to mention the Reaganites were sabotaging his efforts.

Case in point, the Iran hostage situation, resolved conveniently just as Reagan got inaugurated...

[Thothmes]

58. I can see them getting away with it with President Carter

I could not visiulize them being successful in such an underhanded scheme with LBJ, or Bill Clinton.

[Recursion]

62. He was also a horrible micro-manager

He would appoint people and then go over their heads and remake their decisions for them.

Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but his leadership style was not effective

[shanti]

24. yeah, and a lot of people love(d) him!

did you hate him? if so, why?

[Skittles]

61. I don't remember them as awful

not at all

[H2O Man]

6. No.

[Zywiec]

7. Could it have been 20% interest rates to buy a house. n/t

[Bluestar]

15. Uh, I believe that started with Ray-gun (could be some of Jimmy's fault)

Although Jimmy was clearly not a great president--a better ex-president, though! I lived through gas pump lines, soaring prices, America Held Hostage by Iran every night on the teevee, letting the military diminish to the point that we couldn't free the hostages. He also refused to allow our athletes to attend the Olympic games for some ideological reason (I can't remember why, but I didn't agree with it.)

It is so odd that he was so ineffective--I think because he lacked experience--maybe being governor of Georgia during that period of time was a lot simpler than the federal government?? He clearly didn't listen to the American people, but marched to his own ideology--very scary.

[madrchsod]

23. ok

carter started rebuilding the military after years of neglect after nam.he really did`t want the iranian mission that failed. the Olympic games and the embargo of grain was a response to the russian invasion of afghanistan.
he underestimated the entrenched power of the senate and house and could`t figure out how to effectively work with them. he was caught up in factors that he had no control over. the oil deal was very interesting-at that time there was a huge effort to start producing alternate energy sources do to the soaring oil prices..then in one day oil prices crashed...

the more i think about his presidency i wonder just how much of it was undermined by the "boys in the basement" during reagan`s presidency.were bush ,cheney ,and others undermining carter as they did to reagan?

carter is the best ex president we have ever had

[Bluestar]

31. I agree with you that he is our best ex-president so far

And looking back at history, I'm sure that he was undermined by the Republicans. At that time, we thought we had neutered the beast (the far right). Little did we know they were working behind the scenes to fight another day. We were so naive then.

[physioex]

32. This is whole lot of dudu......

Look, Carter warned about the coming energy crisis but this country chose to ignore the warning. And now look at the situation we findourselves. The US is nothing but a drug addict consuming 25% of the world's energy while we are at the mercy of Saudi Arabia and Iran.

As for the hostages, how do you suggest we solve the problem? Ohhh wait that coward Raygun traded WMDs for hostages. Man that really made things better right?

I could keep refuting everything you said....

[sandnsea]

38. Boycott was for invading Afghanistan

Jimmy Carter wanted to use diplomatic measures to get the Soviet Union out of Afghanistan. Reagan decided to arm Bin Laden. Yeah that Jimmy was a real doof.

*sigh*

Jimmy Carter was right on most of his proposals. It was just too much crap going on at once for him to gain the trust of the country. And honestly, Teddy Kennedy didn't help and I love Teddy.

Carter ought to be a good lesson to people about why Obama is the right choice. So much of a President's ability to accomplish anything is based on how much the people trust him/her.

[lumberjack_jeff]

42. High interest rates were the result of getting inflation under control.

I can remember getting a mortgage at 11.18% and thinking I was the luckiest guy in the world.

[Toots]

53. Actually it began under Ford

Remember Ford's Campaign Motto WIN (Whip Inflation Now) Carter inherited not only a super bad economy but also bad foreign policy with Iran. Remember how Ford allowed the Shaw of Iran to come to America for treatment and fought tooth and nail to keep him in power in Iran. By the time Jimmy Carter got into Office Iran was in completye turmoil. Carter was unable to calm down the situation and Khomeni (sp) came back from his exhile in France and really stirred the pot. The American Embassy was overrun and Americans were taken hostage. Carter was unable to negotiate their freedom because of their demands. This all instigated an oil embargo from the Newly created OPEC and inflation really took off. Reagan made a secret deal with Iran to give them arms if they would release the hostages but not before he became President. It was called Iran-Contra affair and still has not really been prosecuted. Every person involved was let go with nothing but a slap on the hand..

[NewJeffCT]

41. The high interest rates resulted from Nixon

but, it's always blamed on the person actually in the White House at the time of the high rates.

So, when we have 10% or higher inflation and interest in 2010, it will be blamed on Obama/Clinton/McCain and not Bush.

[Webster Green]

8. He's been critical of Israel's insanely cruel occupation of Palestine

Right wing nut-jobs equate that with anti-semitism.

[malta blue]

10. Exactly.

I suppose my feelings towards Israel on the same topic make me an anti-semite as well....:eyes:

He is most certainly NOT an anti-semite.

[frylock]

29. if you listen to posters like aquart..

then yes, your dislike of destructive pro-Likud policy makes you an anti-semite. in fact, you're worse than 100 hitlers.

[physioex]

33. And that's how they like to frame the issue...

Can't criticize US foreign policy in anyway.

[rockymountaindem]

13. It's a smple as that!

:eyes:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

17. It is as simple as that.

Unless you've got evidence of anything Jimmy Carter's ever said or done that's anti-semitic that I don't know about.

[rockymountaindem]

22. I'm not talking about Carter in that post

I know he's not an anti-Semite, although I disagree with him on the I/P issue.

[DutchLiberal]

26. Without the misplaced sarcasm, your post would be spot-on.

[LSK]

21. yep

[blondeatlast]

54. Precisely. Thank you. nt

[treestar]

64. Exactly. Anyone subscribing to this viewpoint is doing it from that

viewpoint. Which is silly.

[sakabatou]

11. My mom says the same thing...

[Island Blue]

12. Anyone who hates Jimmy Carter

is obviously an Anti-Dentite. :)

[Jim Sagle]

14. I hated him too. Still do. Tough shit for anyone who doesn't like it.

[wuushew]

18. Are you aware of the other choices in the 1976 primaries?

George Wallace, Scoop Jackson, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29_presidential_primaries%2C_1976

[Jim Sagle]

20. I voted for him in '76.

[Hippo_Tron]

43. Frank Church would've been a good President IMO

[DutchLiberal]

27. Why???

[VP505]

34. I didn't hate

him then and I don't hate him now but I sure as hell didn't like that he had us freezing our asses off with his turn down the heat and wear a sweater bullshit. I didn't like the all the extra work I had to do to make sure I could buy fuel everywhere I needed to go.

[physioex]

35. Well...

We can agree your hatred for him can only be matched by my hatred of the Xtian fundies that control our foreign policy and the hardliners in Israel....

[H2O Man]

51. Bitterness

contaminates the vessel which contains it.

[madrchsod]

19. no

[DutchLiberal]

25. I would like to say what I think of people who hold that position,

but I don't want to offend you since it's your mother. Is this clear enough?

[UTUSN]

28. I can one-UP you: My grandmother HATED Woodrow WILSON!1

When I was in the 7th grade, I told her I idolized him, and she replied,"He was a total JERK!1'


She didn't explain. However, now that Shrub attempts to be "spreading democracy" - Uh, NO.

[RB TexLa]

30. Was your grandmother by chance Irish?

That would explain it.

I don't care for Wilson at all either.

[SmellsLikeDeanSpirit]

37. Didn't Wilson appear in a pro KKK propaganda film in the mid 1910's.

Plus his promising to stay out of the war to win election and then after winning gets in the war. Do I have this correct? If so, sounds like a slimeball.

[Recursion]

63. He praised "Birth of a Nation"

A romanticized history of the KKK.

In fairness, from artistic standpoints it's the best movie of the 1910's. The problem was, Wilson (a noted scholar) praised its alleged (and non-existent) historical accuracy.

Damn well-made movie, though.

[Selatius]

39. I find Wilson a distasteful president as well, for crushing the 1st Amendment.

His attacks on anti-war activists and provoking the first Red Scare was totally beyond the Bill of Rights.

[Hippo_Tron]

44. Wilson's 14 points were visionary

On the other hand, he was a dinosaur on race relations and set the country at least a decade if not more so back in that area.

[NewJeffCT]

40. A lot of Democrats didn't like Carter - it's why Kennedy challenged him in '80

He was viewed as too moderate & too religious.

For the first time in his life, my father didn't vote for a Democrat - he ended up voting John Anderson in 1980.

[El Pinko]

45. Contrary to the popular image, Carter was NOT a liberal.

I don't know that he's an anti-semite, but he ran as a social conservative, and also cut income tax rates.

I don't consider Carter to have been a very effective president, but the recession late in his term wasn't nearly as severe as the one in 72-74.

Just saying - he was not the darling of the liberals when he ran in 76.

[NewJeffCT]

46. as I posted above

He also was not the darling of liberals in 1980 - which is why Ted Kennedy challenged him from the left in 1980.

And, it's also why my dad did not vote for a Democrat for the first time in 1980 - he voted Anderson.

[El Pinko]

48. My dad did likewise. NT

NT

[RebelOne]

50. I am a liberal Democrat, but I never cared for Carter.

Mainly because he opened up our borders to the Cuban refugees during the Mariel boat lift. After that, the crime in Miami soared because Castro opened up his jails and sent all the criminals here.

[Echo In Light]

52. Noted: Carter's admin supported/supplied arms for the worst atrocities in East Timor

http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199910--.htm

http://www.zmag.org/crisescurevts/sunil.htm

http://www.oikos.org/ecology/timor.htm

[Tommy_Carcetti]

55. There's a big difference between....

...being an anti-semite and not being a slave to the hard-right Zionist agenda in Israel.

Israel is Exhibit A as to the follies of a lack of separation of church and state. Because if one criticizes Israeli state policy, it is automatically translated into an attack on the Jewish religion. And that is just wrong.

[xchrom]

56. all i know is i'd vote for him -- again.

[mdmc]

59. Ted Kennedy is super cool

Perhaps that is why she didn't like Jimmy.

[pinto]

60. No.

:hi: