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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:40 AM
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I stopped clubbing people with a baseball bat ...
I stopped clubbing people with a baseball bat a few years back. Since I have discontinued this practice, all is well now and people should move on to my other, less criminal, actions

Some people just want to live in the past though. Those people who think my former practice of clubbing people with a baseball bat merits accountability are nothing more than roadblocks to the future.

We must move on from those days when I used a baseball bat to club people - sometimes to death.

Together, we can put the unity back in immUNITY. (and impUNITY)
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:49 AM
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1. You are an inspiration! You are a voice for the possible!
:applause:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:53 AM
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4. Thank you. And remember..can't spell immunity without unity
Let's all come together and make it happen!!!

Because really, do we want to dwell on such an ugly subject as hitting people with a baseball bat? Do you really want to believe me capable of such a thing?

Besides, I was protecting others...I was spreading harmony.





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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:03 AM
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13. Ahhh I get it now.
Spreading harmony at the end of a bat! Damn good Solly! :P :hi:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:05 AM
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14. Hi Muse!
:)
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:50 AM
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2. how do you define it
this so called 'hitting' people with this so called 'bat' of yours.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:51 AM
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3. enhanced attitude adjustment, of course
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:53 AM
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5. Why do you hate America's national pastime, Solly?
:silly: :) :D
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:55 AM
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6. But..but..I was protecting America's national pastime!!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:51 AM
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7. baseball bats are passe'. I've moved onto tire irons. nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:54 AM
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9. But you stopped, right? Otherwise it would be a serious crime and we
would have to take a look at it.

Or maybe we'd just pretend it isn't happening....

Or even if it is happening, we'll pretend that it's still debatable whether or nor hitting someone with a tire iron constitutes a crime

and anyway, I'm sure you were just protecting America from bad people



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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:54 AM
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8. with all due respect, i suspect you still club the odd-fellow just to keep your chops up
:toast:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:56 AM
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10. snicker....only figuratively
lol

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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:59 AM
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11. As long as you realize that there are more "advanced" methods
of enhanced attitude adjustment, I think we can overlook your few hundred indiscretions.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:03 AM
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12. Funding science for the purpose of extracting information
is ever so much more patriotic than funding science to save lives.

and besides, when you're beating the life out of someone, aren't you really saving life?



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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:48 AM
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15. in all fairness, there was some question
about the meaning of clubbing during your time at the handle.

Re-hashing the ugly debate over this meaning is not good for the American public, we need to move forward - to the future. Retroactive is better than reactive.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:01 PM
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16. I knew you'd understand!
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 12:06 PM by Solly Mack
No one wants to put America through such an ugly debate. We must look toward healing and unity. It's not like I'll ever club again.

Besides, it was desperate measures at a desperate time...I was caught up in the moment.


Surely people will admit that everyone thought I should do whatever was needed!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:05 PM
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17. Did I mention that enhanced attitude adjustment with a bat is not assault?
In Solly-world, we don't engage in assault.

And furthermore, enhanced attitude adjustment by bat is not specifically mentioned in the Geneva Conventions.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:18 PM
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18. You ought to
write that up in essay form, I think I know a few hundred people to email it to, people that might benefit immensely from being exposed to such irony.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:31 PM
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23. and call it the Baseball Bat Memos?
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:42 PM
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19. Good for you.
Now give me my goddamn hat back.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:28 PM
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21. Is this a test?
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:58 PM
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20. Why dredge up the past?
We need to look at the road ahead, not at the rear view mirror.

Besides, there isn't time to investigate these kinds of allegations. We need to spend our energy doing the peoples' business, not rekindling old grudges.

And the distractions! It's hard enough to walk and chew gum at the same time without running an investigation into serial baseball battings and naming dozens of post office buildings after unknown dead white guys. We need to keep our eye on the ball, as it were.

Plus which, in the interests of bipartisanship, we need to end the bitter divisiveness that causes people to pick up bats as weapons in the first place.

We as a people need to heal our wounds and celebrate what unites us, not dwell on what divides us. Remember, immUNITY is the sign of a healthy nation, while DISimmUNITY makes us vulnerable to threats both foreign and domestic.

And most importantly of all, if we lose focus on immUNITY, the terrorists win.


Gawd bless america.

wp
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:30 PM
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22. Yes! ImmUNITY - it's what binds us together as a nation!
Forget the ugly! Embrace the shiny key thinking of a free mind!!!
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:49 PM
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24. Oh, by the way... Don't get rid of the bat; I might need to borrow it...
I'm thinking of a little personal revenue enhancement. Hanging out at the ATM with a bat and an attitude might be just the thing to deal with spiraling health care costs, oppressive property taxes and maybe even get a decent hot meal at Chez Burger Roi for my troubles.

Is it a 32 ounce by chance? Maybe 34" in length? I always favored that model, but I'm adaptable.


wp
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:57 PM
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25. Sorry...after reviewing the process I felt it was best to destroy the bat
However, I wouldn't want anyone to think I was destroying evidence. It was just a case of protecting myself in case the country's mood shifted from being pro-enhanced attitude adjustment to being humane and decent. One day it's not legal... next thing you know it is legal... and then it's not legal again.... What's a poor attitude adjuster to do?

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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:11 PM
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26. That's a hell of a bind... You might start by buying a senator or two...
You can never have enough insulation between you and the Constitution.


wp
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:14 PM
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27. Oh, I would never resort to bribery. However, a fat donation or two
might do the trick.

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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:38 AM
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28. Gosh, don't you know it's only certain, especially evil ones, who get the bat?
We reserve the right to club the brains out of those who might know something.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:40 AM
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34. True...it was only the bad guys
and everybody knows bad guys don't have rights
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:47 AM
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29. like excusing Edwards for co-sponsoring an illegal, immoral invasion
is that what you mean?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:47 AM
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35. Well, you know, if I knew then what I know now - so on and so forth
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 08:04 AM by Solly Mack
this is about America's sordid love affair with torture

and I make no excuses for anyone on that vote....never have, never will
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:53 AM
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30. That's ok. McCain will pick up the slack.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:50 AM
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36. Yes...McCain is really big on the word IF
and with McCain, I know there will be UNITY in ImmUNITY

Now watch this swing...
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:06 AM
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31. Now
Put down the monkey wrench, that lead pipe, the kendo stick, the car antenna, the oar, the ballpeen hammer....

Great post Solly :pals:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:55 AM
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37. I'm sorry. I can't talk about possible other methods of enhanced attitude adjustment
the enemy would learn to combat our methods and it would hurt national security


besides, it's a state secret


Thank you, SalmonChantedEvening!!!!

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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:12 AM
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32. The change ... was it a faith-based program? n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:00 AM
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38. Oh yeah... faith in that one day my ass could go to prison
so I destroyed the bat and want people to know we don't do that anymore...and everyone knows once you stop committing crimes, you're innocent of all crime and have regained your moral authority.

And, most importantly, my image with the world is now instantly improved because I made the claim that I stopped clubbing people.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 07:14 AM
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33. You're forgiven, now, go and club people with a baseball bat no more.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 08:02 AM
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39. I forgave my victims too...repeatedly
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:06 AM
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40. Enhanced Kicking in honor of Mukasey who is currently telling
the Senate judicial committee that he can't speak to discontinued practices
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:23 PM
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41. Enhanced Kicking of Mukasey should most definitely be...
a sanctioned and continued practice!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:29 PM
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42. Tsk.Tsk. I'm relying on that fine specimen of shit to get my immunity
by "not discussing those discontinued practices" which "could be constitutional under article 2"
and which "reasonable people" can disagree with each other as to whether or not enhances attitude adjustment with a baseball bat is assault or not.

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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:40 PM
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43. Ahem. Adjusted people have enhanced reasons for clubbing...
that is not to be argued.

Congress must have an attitude, eh? Let the clubbing begin!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:44 PM
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44. To drop character for a moment. Are you watching that POS?
He's giving me more and more "talking points" for enhanced attitude adjustment with a bat

I'm not surprised Mukasey is a thug just like his boss...but I am so outraged that America is tolerating such criminals. It's such a mockery.

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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:07 PM
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45. Ya, I've been watching but I switched to listen to Edwards' withdrawal.
I see the simple solution in all of this testimony is to just plop 'em down and get out the waterboards. There are quite a few guys who have "tested" and "demonstrated" this "interrogation method" on the tv and on YouTube...allowing themselves to submit to such treatment as a "learning experience".

I say that all of the ones who believe it is NOT torture and think that it is an effective questioning technique and not something that should have been considered a crime against humanity, ever, need to show us what they're made of, publicly. Then let's hear them claim that the use of such torture is not a punishable offense!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:14 PM
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46. Mukasey admitted that water-boarding would "feel like torture" IF
he was being water-boarding

However, I wouldn't water-board anyone.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:45 PM
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47. me neither, hell I can't even take a shower cause can't stand water in my face
But if Specter feels like excoriating anybody right now, I don't think I'd mind.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 02:47 PM
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48. ((((countryjake))))
Just cuz...

Now, I'm going back in character :)
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:26 PM
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49. Let me tell you, that Mukasey fellow sure knows how to put the unity into immunity
With him around, I'll never have to worry about ever being charged for my participation in the enhanced attitude adjustment program.

He's all about bringing America together behind the idea that by pretending that something that is happening isn't really happening, means that it never happened in the first place. And even if it did happen, it happened in the past, and since that's the past, and we gotta move forward to the future, we have to just forget those crimes.

He's all about protecting the integrity of his department too...would hate to dirty it up with such ugliness.

Course, he couldn't answer too many questions because Bush didn't give him permission...but he's constantly thanked for that "firewall" of independence he put up between the DOJ and the WH.

Now, if that statement sounds like a contradiction...then you heard it correctly!!! But let's move on...wouldn't want anyone to get all "retrospective" ...



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