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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:50 PM
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Poll question: True or False? NPR is like Pravda squared
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:00 PM
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1. NPR is to Kool-aid like fast food is to cholesterol
:spray:
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MinM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:02 AM
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11. New York Times playing the role of Izvestia or the role of Pravda
NPR's not the best --
Ted Koppel
“Natural Fit” at NPR News and Longtime Booster of Henry Kissinger
Back in 1987, Newsweek noted a basic disparity between the image and function of Ted Koppel: “The anchor who makes viewers feel that he is challenging the powers that be on their behalf is in fact the quintessential establishment journalist.”

but they're not the worst either:shrug:
Democracy Now! | New York Times Trumpets Pentagon's Claims Over Iran Sending Bombs to Iraq
The Times is without question an establishment newspaper; I always read the New York Times the way Sovietologists used to read Izvestia, the government newspaper, and I half-kiddingly always ask the question: is the New York Times playing the role of Izvestia or the role of Pravda, which was the party newspaper. The New York Times owes its success, its long-term success, economic and otherwise, to being close to the government, to being sort of the semiofficial government newspaper and giving the administration line to the public fairly unfiltered. And Michael Gordon is just a tool. He’s just a conduit for this policy that the paper has been pursuing for decades.

Day After Gordon's Latest 'NYT' Front-Pager -- Bush and Cheney Threaten Iran
The C.I.A. and the Culture War - Paper Cuts - Books - New York Times Blog
NPR | New York Times reporter William L. Laurence

Why Were Government Propaganda Experts Working On News At CNN?
The Return of PSYOPS
CNN Is An ACTIVE Participant In Planning War With Iran!!
YouTube - IRANIAN BOATS PROVOKE U.S. NAVY - CNN REPORT

Consortiumnews | CBS Falsifies Iraq War History
Terror Watch: What 60 Minutes Didn't Run - Newsweek National News - MSNBC.com
Sept. 22, 2005 - In its rush to air its now discredited story about President George W. Bush’s National Guard service, CBS bumped another sensitive piece slated for the same “60 Minutes” broadcast: a half-hour segment about how the U.S. government was snookered by forged documents purporting to show Iraqi efforts to purchase uranium from Niger.

The journalistic juggling at CBS provides an ironic counterpoint to the furor over apparently bogus documents involving Bush’s National Guard service. One unexpected consequence of the network’s decision was to wipe out a chance—at least for the moment—for greater public scrutiny of a more consequential forgery that played a role in building the Bush administration’s case to invade Iraq.

A team of “60 Minutes” correspondents and consulting reporters spent more than six months investigating the Niger uranium documents fraud, CBS sources tell NEWSWEEK. The group landed the first ever on-camera interview with Elisabetta Burba, the Italian journalist who first obtained the phony documents, as well as her elusive source, Rocco Martino, a mysterious Roman businessman with longstanding ties to European intelligence agencies.

Although the edited piece never ended up identifying Martino by name, the story, narrated by “60 Minutes” correspondent Ed Bradley, asked tough questions about how the White House came to embrace the fraudulent documents and why administration officials chose to include a 16-word reference to the questionable uranium purchase in President Bush’s 2003 State of the Union speech.

But just hours before the piece was set to air on the evening of Sept. 8, the reporters and producers on the CBS team were stunned to learn the story was being scrapped to make room for a seemingly sensational story about new documents showing that Bush ignored a direct order to take a flight physical while serving in the National Guard more than 30 years ago.

“This is like living in a Kafka novel,” said Joshua Micah Marshall, a Washington Monthly contributing writer and a Web blogger who had been collaborating with “60 Minutes” producers on the uranium story. “Here we had a very important, well-reported story about forged documents that helped lead the country to war. And then it gets bumped by another story that relied on forged documents.”
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loser_user Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:31 AM
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17. I'd say it's in-between. Try Pacifica instead
NPR has it ups and downs. Pacifica is usually consistently good. Try KPFA and listen to Free Speech Radio News...great newscast!
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:05 PM
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2. NPR has definitely gone downhill over the years,
But in what is more of a sad commentary on the state of our media, it is still one of the better MSM outlets nationwide.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:09 PM
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3. NPR: When you want to be reassured it's all going to be just fine (tm)
It's their specialty...
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:32 AM
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9. The Iraq palimpsest...
Today on NPR, blah, blah, blah, we'll hear from blah, blah, blah, (clarinet solo). In Baghdad, a corner market sells coffee and blah, blah, even though electricity is non-existent.

And now the news.

Congress says nobody wants to impeach President Bush. It may seem that way as you walk down the street, talk to people at church, listen to Union reps, your barber, and generally breathe, but nobody blah, blah, blah, really does.

This just in, the BCCI scandal never actually happened. Cokie?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:10 PM
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4. Wouldn't someone actually have to listen to it to be propaganda?
:shrug:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:24 PM
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5. they frequently have good things on it, best radio here in NC, i do turn it off occasionally.. no
big deal.. but hey,.. nothin's Fuck'n perfect. i am sick of the pseudo intellectual cynics around here, go back to your perfect solid gold Utopias. why are you crap'n on us for. if you live in the South, NPR is the only window to rational thought or sanity for quite a fir piece.

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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:38 PM
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6. So is it Pravda or " the truth"?
I couldn't tell from your post. :spray:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:08 AM
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13. it is what it is under the circumstances.. it is pretty good all in all, they have some commentators...
i don't agree with.. but if you want to throw out the baby with the bath water.. throw your own baby out

be my Fuck'n guest not to listen to it..
your agenda is vividly described in how the "Statement" is framed.. it cant be a question.. if it is you are revealing a 'Disturbed' mind.

you are simply being divisive, condemning and deceptive... you offer no links>, no examples.. you are just trying to sound smart, and end up being a smart ass. you have said nothing,

i don't play mind fuck games, it could use some improvement, but i really feel fortunate that NPR hasn't been given to Fox to operate.

everybody knows it isn't perfect, but anyone with an IQ of 60 would know that doesn't make it a Soviet News Paper.

you come across as a Troll, NPR is a good thing, one of the few good things left.. ..get a fuck'n life.




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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:10 PM
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19. "NPR is a good thing, one of the few good things left"
Have another one. :spray:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:39 PM
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7. Did anyone think they'd let NPR/PBS survive --- ???
They've been working on that for 30 years !!!


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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:23 AM
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8. The dried husk of Truth
I can't bear to listen
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 07:41 AM
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10. Kinda like watching your grandmother descend into alcoholism...
after a long, productive life.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:04 AM
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12. I turned off NPR for good after *'s first SOTU address
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 10:11 AM by devilgrrl
Neil Conan couldn't kiss his ass hard enough
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:12 AM
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14. NPR sucks!
I used to rely on them many years ago.
:-(
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:15 AM
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15. NPR (Neocon Public Relations)
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:16 AM
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16. The day after the Iowa primaries, there was no mention of Edwards on NPR
...even though he came in second.

But after the South Carolina primary, NPR was quick to point out that Edwards came in third in a state he came in first in 2004.

Yeah, "fair and balanced" :eyes:
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:48 AM
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18. now you're in for it
National Propaganda is a sacred cow to some here, I hope you've got your abestos underwear on. As for myself they are pravda cubed.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:13 PM
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20. After my IQ dropped when I had to listen to NPR because my AAR affiliate vanished...
I couldn't take it anymore. Now I listen to AAR podcasts. I'm happy to report my IQ has returned to normal.
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western mass Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:18 PM
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21. same right-wing message, but gay friendly
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