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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:17 AM
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Bill Gates Issues Call for a Benevolent Capitalism
A Wealth Of Ideas: Davos Speech Sets a Plan to Use Market Forces
To Help Poor Countries; 'We Have to Find a Way'
By ROBERT A. GUTH
January 24, 2008 6:58 p.m.

Free enterprise has been good to Bill Gates. But on Thursday, the Microsoft Corp. chairman called for a revision of capitalism.

In a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, the software tycoon called for a "creative capitalism" that uses market forces to address poor-country needs that he feels are being ignored. Outgoing Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates talks to The Journal's Rob Guth about his concept of creative capitalism. (Jan. 23, 2008)
"We have to find a way to make the aspects of capitalism that serve wealthier people serve poorer people as well," Mr. Gates told world leaders at the forum.

Mr. Gates isn't abandoning his belief in capitalism as the best economic system. But in an interview with the Journal last week at his Microsoft office in Redmond, Washington, Mr. Gates said he has grown impatient with the shortcomings of capitalism. He said he has seen those failings first-hand on trips for Microsoft to places like the South African slum of Soweto, and discussed them with dozens of experts on disease and poverty. He has voraciously read about those failings in books that propose new approaches to narrowing the gap between rich and poor. In particular, he said, he is troubled that advances in technology, health care and education tend to help the rich and bypass the poor. "The rate of improvement for the third that is better off is pretty rapid," he said. "The part that's unsatisfactory is for the bottom third -- two billion of six billion."

Three weeks ago, on a flight home from a New Zealand vacation, Mr. Gates took out a yellow pad of paper and listed ideas about why capitalism, while so good for so many, is failing much of the world. He refined those thoughts into the speech he gave at the annual Davos conference of world leaders in business, politics and nonprofit organizations.

Among the fixes he called for: Companies should create businesses that focus on building products and services for the poor. "Such a system would have a twin mission: making profits and also improving lives for those who don't fully benefit from market forces," he said.

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• Issue Briefing: Doubts Dog DavosMr. Gates's Davos speech offers insight into his goals as he prepares to retire in June from full-time work at Microsoft -- where he will remain chairman -- and focus on his philanthropy, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

Mr. Gates sees a role for himself spurring companies into action, he said in the interview. "The idea that you encourage companies to take their innovative thinkers and think about the most needy -- even beyond the market opportunities -- that's something that appropriately ought to be done," he said.

His thoughts on philanthropy are closely heeded because of the business success that made Mr. Gates one of the world's richest men. His eight-year-old charity is expanding rapidly following the 2006 decision by Warren Buffett to leave his fortune to the foundation. That donation, at the time valued at about $31 billion, increases to some $70 billion the hoard Mr. Gates says will be given away within 50 years of the deaths of him and his wife.

<snip> Belief in Technology

A core belief of Mr. Gates is that technology can erase problems that seem intractable. That belief was deepened, Mr. Gates says, by his study of Julian Simon, a now-deceased business professor who argued that increases in wealth and technology would offset shortages in energy, food and other global resources.

Mr. Gates wove the influence of such optimists into his comments Thursday. "In the coming decades we will have astonishing new abilities to diagnose illness, heal disease, educate the world's children, create opportunities for the poor and harness the world's brightest minds to solve our most difficult problems," he said.

Describing himself as an "impatient optimist," Mr. Gates said he would ask each of his Davos listeners to take up a "creative capitalism" project in the coming year.

And he vows to keep prodding them. "I definitely see, once I'm full-time at the foundation, reaching out to various industries -- going to cellphone companies, banks and more pharma companies -- and talking about how...they can do these things," he said.



entire article @ The Wall Street Journal Link: (subscription required) http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120120041750814009.html

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:18 AM
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1. Will Capitalism 2.0 come with digitial rights management? n/t
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:25 AM
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2. But Bill Gates is
evil incarnate. how could this be possible? Lies i tell you . LIES.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:30 AM
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4. Three years ago, he predicted the dollar would fall.
No big surprise; he's been big on offshoring...
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:29 AM
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3. oops
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 08:42 AM by HypnoToad
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:33 AM
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5. Why not demand vegetarian sharks while you're at it, Bill?
:eyes:

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:39 AM
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9. Capitalism is about people selling goods and services.
The problems involve cost and what is perceived as being valuable.

And the hypocrisy; jobs paying more money are usually offered at those wages being offered. Money is an incentive.

If the cost of items is being reduced by offshoring, then why:
1. Does Vista cost exorbitantly more than its predecessor?
2. The goods sold at "lower prices" don't allow people to get into those professions and make a living?

So why does janitorial work pay so little? Nobody I know wants that type of job...

Silly comparison, yeah, but the day the US started slicing off its arms to give other countries a helping hand, without compensating other factors like cost of living, it's reasonably safe to conjecture assume somebody knew our status would fall.

At least to some extent, but the last 2 years haver concluded - to keep the world economy up, America has to remain up. The cost of living imbalance must end.

America has poor too, and there are plenty of poor Americans who don't have the big TVs detractors whine about. Even so, TV provides news and information, like the internet, and compared to health insurance, a TV is merely a one-time purchase. That insurance costs the price of the TV for every single month.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:47 AM
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11. Exactly - it's not about benevolence or beneficence
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 08:48 AM by hatrack
It's about selling as much as possible for as much profit as possible while incurring the minimum costs possible. Follow that logic, and you end up where we are today.

And now, Bill suddenly realizes, there's going to be a price to pay for that - 300 million people who were rich (at least by global standards) and are now slowly arriving at the realization that they're not likely to remain that way much longer, at least in comparison to what they're used to.

Hence the need for "benevolence" - helps soothe the increasingly surly help, while burnishing the company image.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:33 AM
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6. The fact he's calling for it now suggests it used to be the opposite of benevolent.
:shrug:
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:38 AM
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7. great, I gots mine so now you gotta change what you're doing
What a crock. The man makes billions of dollars on what essentially amounts to theft, shifty marketing and slave labor and THEN he calls for Benevolent Capitalism???

Sure...

sP
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:44 AM
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10. It's possible people can change...
But the dude's pushing 60. It's been said it's easier for younger people to change their lives than older ones.

Bill could be lying; if only to prop up his retirement account?

BTW: How is it slave labor when we're flooded with H1Bs and every corporation wanting to move its butt into India, complete with demand for products increasing? It is not slave labor, nor is it exploitation. We are nation-building.

The trouble is, slice off a hand to help someone else and you'll bleed to death after a while.

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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:48 AM
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14. Him & his wife have always used their money in a way for those less fortunate. Yes, he has
made millions by being in on tech from the beginning as so many others has. All of his and his wife's foundation is going to charity. He has given thousands of computers to inner city schools along with other gifts to many.

I guess if he had not made himself rich, all of this would have been possible. Its just like those who criticize John Edwards for being rich like it is hypocrisy to be rich and try to help those less fortunate.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:39 AM
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8. which system is best.?? well if you kill people on the way to work cause your car has no brakes,
take the muni bus, but that is socialism.. so it's better to kill people, pollute, destroy.

there can be a blend of different systems.. but it requires regulation to prevent mentally ill obsessive compulsive wealth accumulator sociopaths from steam rolling over anyone who has wealth they want or those who have nothing and are just in the way of grasping more wealth.

and the wall street gambling addicts..and like the Bu$hitCo crime family, we need to end their ability to BRIBE Politicians.. the people should elect our Representatives so the people should finance their elections.

and we dont have any time to waste.
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:59 AM
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12. When Bill Gates starts talking about full legal Regulatory limits
on Corporations, on anti-monopoly activities, etc. I'll start to take notice. Who does this SOB think he is?

NoFederales
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:23 AM
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13. Easy to talk benevolence...
... when you made your pile using criminal methods to foist on the world products that have cost it untold billions in lost productivity and security.

Fuck ya, Billy Boy, and the monopoly OS you rode in on.
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