Hey mc cain you dumb shit, leaving a disaster is NOT surrender.

[Philosoraptor]

mc cain said Hillary wants to 'surrender' in Iraq. What cartoon world does johnny live in now? Can you see Hillary entering Iraq with her entourage setting up a little folding table and signing surrender papers and turning herself into the Iraqi authorities, and signing the U.S. over to the Iraqis?

Surrender? Kiss my ass you crazy republican, is leaving a burning building surrender, or just plain common horse sense?

Fuck you mc cain, YOU SURRENDERED DECADES AGO you tired old crazy fucker.

[physioex]

1. You know...

I am really concerned he might win the nomination this time. Unless you can bring that dirty trickster Rove to take him down...

[Angela Shelley]

2. What do you call it when a country deliberately

"creates a disaster" and then leaves the rubble for someone else to deal with?

[Ganja Ninja]

5. At this point I would call it self preservation.

And what makes you think they can't deal with it better without us around?

[Angela Shelley]

9. I´m with you, Sentinel Chicken.

I think that the attack, invasion and occupation of Iraq was detrimental activity for everyone involved.

I trust that any country on this planet is better off without US occupation.

My point was, that we have caused so much pain and turmoil in Iraq and surrounding countries. We can not just "walk away" and pretend like nothing ever happened.

[Ganja Ninja]

10. I'm more than willing to extradite the perp's and offer reparations.

I think it would be best for all concerned.

[Angela Shelley]

11. Hoorah! We have reached an agreement

:toast:

Have a nice day!

[madokie]

13. we can't just turn and walk away but we must remove all bodies and equipment

anything except for money and food that has any ties to us will need to be removed and soon, people are dying because of our occupation and that won't stop until we no longer occupy. You are right we can't just pretend like nothing ever happened. I've read the number of dead Iraqi is anywhere from a few tens of thousands to more than a million. That last number tells quite a story because it indicates that untold thousands have perished of who all will never be counted.

the people in the Arab world will never trust Americans ever again, never. Providing some did before the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq that is.

[Jacobin]

8. The owner of a china shop

Would just as soon have the bull leave, so that he can clean it up himself, thank you very much.

[Ganja Ninja]

3. We just narrowly staved off an economic panic this week and

these clowns want to keep spending $3 billion a week on this shit hole. Do we elect them to run Iraq and take care of Iraqi's or do we elect them to run America and take care of America? What is this obsession over Iraq? You would think it was America's crown jewel.

[Philosoraptor]

4. Israel is America's crowned jewel.

[physioex]

6. That's right....

Just look at all the wasted foreign aid sent to such a rich country....

[MiniMe]

7. But, but...

The surge is working. cough cough.

[deacon]

12. He's a super warmonger and doomed in the GE if he is the nominee. He will be mocked

and laughed at.

[patrice]

14. I'm starting to hope they do run him. Then we can compare & contrast

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
. . . for Un-Ending War with all of those Budget Cuts all of them mention without going into any detail.

McCain also said last night some very scarey things about how to deal with China.

We get to say to America, "What do you want: War anywhere and everywhere all of the time forever? Or do you want trade policies that put the people of this country first, SANE national defense, and basic national health care?"

[shenmue]

15. Hussein is dead and we should give the country back to its own people.

That's simple.

[Virginia Dare]

16. Somebody should tell Johnny that we surrendered the day we..

pulled out of Saudi Arabia with our fucking tails between our legs after 9/11. Somebody should tell him our "president" just spent a week and a half kissing Saudi ass and god knows what else.

The Saudi's fucking OWN us, right along with the Chinese, and our "president" handed it all over on a silver platter in the name of GREED.

[MGKrebs]

17. The problem cannot be solved with a military solution, so 'winning"

or "surrendering" are false arguments. It is a political problem, not a soldier problem. The military aspect of the operation (justified or not) is pretty much over. Just because we were to remove the military from Iraq doesn't mean we would stop resisting terrorism wherever it occurs.