'Git da rich.' OK, after you've gotten them, what?

[RB TexLa]

You can determine where the rich begin for yourself, 10,000,000 a year, 1,000,000 a year, 500,000 a year, 28,000 a year whatever you chose. But what to do with them after you've gotten them.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

1. Other: Taxed progressively.

:shrug:

[sendero]

8. Exactly..

.. I have no problem with the rich, I just want them to pay their fair share.

[FreepFryer]

41. They'd rather have you come at them with pitchforks than tax law. Your days are numbered, 1%'ers.

[FormerDittoHead]

98. Or a wealth tax. Make it FLAT. A *FLAT* WEALTH TAX. FLAT, so it's "FAIR". WEALTH TAX.

Make it so the rate is revenue neutral - we're not looking to raise more money, just get it from a different source than income from working at McDonnalds....

All this national defense - it goes to protect - WEALTH.

You pay to insure your HOUSE. The more your house is worth, the more you pay to protect it.

The more money you have to protect, the more you should pay to protect its value. On a FLAT RATE.

You're worth 100 million, you should pay 10,000 times more tax than someone who is only worth $10,000. EVERY FUCKING YEAR.

THAT'S FLAT. Flat, flat, flat. Flat is fair, right you right wingers? FLAT WEALTH TAX.

"Oh, we CAN'T do THAT"??? REALLY? What's PROPERTY tax based on? The VALUE OF YOUR HOUSE. It CAN be done...

Yes, and tax George fucking Soros and the Kennedys. I say eliminate trust law, too. No more trust fund babies.

Can't be done? Check out France. Whoops! Oh my God! IT CAN BE DONE!

[lapfog_1]

2. Turn them upside down and shake vigorously!

Then collect all the money that falls on the ground... use it to pay down the US debt.

[Kutjara]

3. Forced to live on the income of those they exploit.

I can think of no greater torture for them.

[MikeNearMcChord]

6. I'll second that!

But how about making them pay the rates they use to pay before Ronald Reagan was president?

[RedCappedBandit]

37. Yes

[SammyWinstonJack]

110. Yes, that would just kill them. Lets start with the bu$h family.

[lonestarnot]

4. Make them pay their fucking share for living in America like the rest of us.

[Zywiec]

5. Nothing. Should we start with George Soros? n/t

[Raine]

85. or the Kennedys ...

what a ridiculous poll. x(

[WinkyDink]

7. Watch them live within MY means.

[pitohui]

9. they should live on the same income i do

if you think that isn't good enough, i would ask you, why should they be entitled to live better than i do, aren't we all supposed to be equal in this country?

there is no excuse for anyone to be rich when others cannot buy medicine and are dying of treatable conditions in the most technologically advanced country in the world

none

when the basic needs of all are taken care of, then the rich can go back to the party

i am not saying that they should live in a ghetto but i'm saying enough is enough, there shouldn't be any billionaires in a world where others still don't have electricity or even a $2 mosquito net, a middle class lifestyle should be enough for anyone who isn't a complete and total fuckwit

[swoop]

16. Some folks work harder than others.

They are entitled to the fruits of their labors. Some people have unusual talents that earn more. They are entitled to that, as well. People should have the same OPPORTUNITIES; they are not all guaranteed equality of outcome.

[JackRiddler]

17. Fuck-tee-doo

90 percent of the people working hardest for the longest hours are the ones being the most fucked over by the system. They are weaving carpets in Pakistan as children, mining coal in some hole and shovelling shit out of the way of the rich fucks who have the freedom to choose how many hours they work (and who apparently spend the whole time fearing their god-given toys will be taken from them).

[swoop]

35. We're not voting for...

...president of Pakistan. We can't control who coal mines in China etc. We can't control EVERYTHING, are not responsible for EVERYTHING, can't fix EVERYTHING.

[LanternWaste]

54. We can fix everything...

We can fix everything HERE, and that's a damned fine start. But too many people would have to give up the 'necessities' of life such as gaming console systems, I-pods and our nightly six-packs for it to actually happen...

[swoop]

67. That's true.

For myself, I want to see an Al Gore LIVE like Al Gore PREACHES we should live.

[EstimatedProphet]

112. He does more to live like he preaches than you do

[fascisthunter]

70. You Got That Right! (nt)

[Lydia Leftcoast]

18. Yeah, the guys who take two-hour lunch breaks and have "business meetings"

over golf work so hard in comparison to the guys who clean their offices at night and then go their second job on the breakfast shift at a restaurant.

[ieoeja]

52. I loved the bank president where I once worked.

He found time to be...

- President of Harris Bank, one of Chicago's largest
- CEO of Motorola
- #1 golfer on the CEO circuit

... all simultaneously. And what was his big contribution at Harris Bank? He negotiated a deal with Motorola to exclusively supply network and telecom equipment to the bank. Must have been really tough negotiating with himself.

And two years later Harris Bank, which went through the entire Great Depression without laying off a single employee, began laying off employees. Though they called it "right-sizing". First time I had ever heard that term. So the President/CEO/golfer may have been the man who coined that phrase. Another feather to stick in his hat.

[TahitiNut]

19. Bravo! A post worthy of FreeRepublic.

:puke:

[swoop]

36. Fair is fair--or it's not.

The day you can realistically complain about THAT is the day I will also see you protest the money Bill Clinton earns for his speeches, Bono gets for his concerts, Jimmy Carter earns for his books, John Edwards charges as a lawyer, Bill Gates earned for his work developing Microsoft, Sean Penn gets for directing a movie, all the Kennedy/Pelosi/KerryHeinz family money, all the money Jesse Jackson lives off of and what Al Gore charges for a Global Warming presentation.

I sure don't see you saying Obama should have earned, for his community organizing and Michelle for her work, the same as a coffee server at a White Spot restaurant. I don't see you protesting Harry Reid's land deals, or Barbra Streisand's house in Malibu. If you REALLY believed that everyone should have the same thing, then you'd believe it was true for BOTH sides--not just the Republicans. To say that 'they' are the only 'rich' that 'need to be divested' is pure propaganda.

I have a feeling that, if you had done any of the work these people I've mentioned have done, you'd be madder than hell if someone else came along and suddenly said you HAD to give a certain amount to those that did and had lesser than you just to 'even things up'. And, if you wouldn't be mad if someone said it to YOU--then why aren't YOU saying it to Hillary, Edwards, Obama, Kucinich, Dodd, Biden Richards, Murtha, Reid, Leahy, Pelosi, Boxer, McDermott, Kennedy, Rangel, Conyers, Carter, Ellison, Gore etc. (and why aren't you giving half of what YOU earn NOW to someone in Honduras, or Indonesia, or Eithiopia?)

If you want to be fair, then be FAIR to EVERYONE.

edit for sp.

[TahitiNut]

43. Bravo! ANOTHER post worthy of FreeRepublic! What an encore!

:applause:



:puke:

[swoop]

50. More silly ad hominem.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......

[TahitiNut]

62. Yes, your posts are FILLED with them ... and straw men, too.

Did you get "Fallacies Made Simple for The Simple-Minded" for Christmas?? How nice. :rofl:

[DireStrike]

45. Wow.

Enjoy your time here. Hopefully you get a lot of pleasure from tossing around straw men.

[swoop]

51. I know.

It is quite common to threaten to tombstone anyone who points out a truth you do not like to hear or who does not march in lockstep with prevailing opinion. That's fine; it will speak to what DU is, or is not. But that won't change the fact that there are many, many very wealthy Democrats (I know, I live in Seattle).

If you really believed in an equal playing field, you would have to admit money would have to be taken from them also. And, because, many times, wealth is relative, you'd need to explain why you are not giving away a good portion of even the most modest wages you earn here in the United States already; we earn many times what they do in other countries.

Third, I'd like to know that, if you and I worked on a committee together and I worked 25 hours a week to mediocre result, and you worked 50 hours a week to outstanding result, would you accept a paycheck equal to mine? If not, why not. For the poster who said everyone should have the same regardless of whether they worked for it or not means we'd earn the same. Would you be willing to continue to work 50 hours a week, to outstanding result, under those conditions (next to me, doing half the work), for the rest of your life? Please explain what would motivate you to do so, why that is fair for everyone, how that would continue to motivate everyone to work hard and develop new jobs and, if we were both doctors, which one you'd send your friends to.

[Tyler Durden]

60. Your big straw man: EQUAL pay for everyone.

What idiot said THAT? You are really throwing it out there.

Just raise the damned tax rate so that the rich pay a higher rate than some schmuck making $30k. They'll KILL themselves donating to charity just so they can shelter the cash, and everybody wins.

[ProfessorGAC]

63. Great Catch, Tyler

The whole point being made collapses as soon as you realize that nobody is talking about flat income distribution. Flat-er, maybe. But, not flat.

So, the outcomes can still come out at levels, just as fewer of them, and closer together. And, the easiest way to do that is to have a highly progressive income tax.
The Professor

[swoop]

65. These folks said...

#3 Forced to live on the income of those they exploit.
#7 Watch them live within MY means.

#9 they should live on the same income i do
if you think that isn't good enough, i would ask you, why should they be entitled to live better than i do, aren't we all supposed to be equal in this country?
...when the basic needs of all are taken care of, then the rich can go back to the party

[pitohui]

73. and you have a problem with that?

sorry, if *i* was god of the world, the rich person would be required to live on a middle class income just like everybody else, there is no excuse for anyone to be rich when there are people in this world who don't even have running water and i'm not talking about in their house, i'm talking about even in their whole village

i've seen this with my own eyes

if *i* were in charge, yes, the world would be different, and the wealth would be more evenly distributed

if you are so great and wonderful, then you would be successful for the sake of being the top scientist or the top leader or the top artist or whatever in your field, you don't become the "best" just for money, stock traders and american idols at the end of the day do not contribute anything to society anywhere near comparable to what a damn chicken farmer contributes, those who work the LEAST end up with the most toys and if i were in charge, yeah, it wouldn't continue because it's morally wrong, it doesn't make sense, and it's unfair

and if you don't like it because you think rush limbaugh works so hard for the money, that's too darn bad because i couldn't care less


at such time as ALL had decent middle class lifestyles, THEN it would be okay if some people were able to somehow get more and be rich, but right now, NO it ain't okay, we have a society where even people who are decent are forced to spend their lives grabbing more and more and more and more just to protect themselves

i would change this and i bet even a lot of "rich" people would be better off because they could use any talents they have (some don't have any but assuming a rich person who actually had a gift for something) they could actually use the talent for good instead of to hog everything for themselves and their own family and their lawyers

[Tyler Durden]

89. Why don't you give up?

You're cherry picking. AGAIN. These people are PISSED that the rich duck the check at the table. Let them pay their way and they can keep their millions. Ain't gonna do them any good in the ground anyway.

Your straw man is on fire: let it burn.

[swoop]

92. You can't just holler 'straw man'!

...and think the argument is done. You provide no counter or rationale--and you can't answer the question.

[Tyler Durden]

94. There is no question...and your argument IS a straw man.

You have ignored facts, and put up and argument that isn't germaine.

[LSK]

48. I have heard Clinton, Kerry, Buffett all say they do not want or deserve the tax breaks

So while they are loaded, they agree that current system is NOT FAIR.

[swoop]

49. That's good.

Do they, then, give what they consider to be the unfair portion of their tax breaks back? Do they pay that portion to the government? As far as I know, there is no law that says one cannot overpay their taxes.

[Oddball]

88. Did you ever here them say they gave the money back?

[Tyler Durden]

59. No but I sponsor 3 girls in India...

And we have 4 $100 micro loans out to that agency that lends very small amounts of cash to women starting business in the 3rd world. They tell me it's been recycled at least 10 times already.

I have nothing against rich people, just pay the damned taxes. Their share of the pie is certainly worth it.

Spank me with that stick all day long: in all those peoples' places, I would sign the 1040 and send it in.

[mrbluto]

84. Not so simple.

The situation is not so simple.

Some people make great profit based on being initially well capitalized without having a track record - i.e. mommy and daddy paid for things. (school, housing, medical etc.) Does this seem fair? Should the state do anything to level the playing field?

Some people can only make the money they do because of the infrastructure that everyone has paid for - did they really earn all that money?

Some people take great risks to make their money, some multiple times. Often when those who take these risks fail they depend on society to insulate them from the worst repercussions of their failure, yet don't consider society to have any stake in their success. Does that seem fair?

Some people basically cannibalize the social capital of this country and monetize it for their personal profit - think drug dealer, a poorly run charitable organization, or a purveyor of empty entertainment for examples.

Some people make their profit on products that are actually pernicious - hand sanitizer is a surprising example for instance: it creates a hazard of more resistant bacteria is not reserved for people who have weak immune systems, yet is marketed with fear-based campaigns for all of us to use. There are many many examples of ostensibly useful products that are actually pernicious or useless.

How much does a CEO deserve to make? Well, what are the risks? Not many actually - most have golden parachutes and make money even when they do poorly. Doesn't seem fair, does it. Certainly not to the stock holders.

How much money should landlords make? Do they take a lot of risk? Do they add value? Let me put it this way: Adam Smith, champion of capitalism & etc., HE didn't like landlords, said they don't add value.

Another choice quote from Adam Smith is "Whenever three businessman get together they soon conspire to deprive laborers of their just wages."

My take?

Most squawking about "equal opportunity" is the disingenuous final rational of deluded republicans. It's the last rational way to defend the existing (and planned)inequalities. I actually agree with the essential premise of equal opportunity, but am often disgusted by the sorts people who depend on this argument. They dream of a system where all the cultural bias and past inequities are not accounted for and where their particular and idiosyncratic strengths are the ones that matter.

Taking the leg weights off a guy 30 meters into a 100 meter dash does not make for a fair contest.

One other reason people often talk about "equal opportunity" and particularly "the rules" is that they'd like a device to allow them to be cruel, yet be morally insulated from the suffering they cause. They take extra time to cause suffering and then say "hey, them's the rules" as if the rules are unquestionably fair or unbiased. They use the law to pretend that they are unaccountable for their actions.

What and where profit and risk are is not so cut and dried as your post suggests.

[TheWatcher]

25. If Ignorance was currency

You could buy Bill gates five times over.

[TahitiNut]

44. Indeed. Lord Acton is shown to be correct yet again.

"There are two things which cannot be attacked in front: ignorance and narrowmindedness. They can only be shaken by the simple development of the contrary qualities. They will not bear discussion." — Lord Acton

[LanternWaste]

53. Like Ken Lay?

"They are entitled to the fruits of their labors..."

Like Ken Lay?




Let's be honest-- the hardest workers get paid far much less than what their work is worth. The CEO's of multi-nationals? Not so much...


Personally, I think everyone in this country should be guaranteed a home to live in, health care, food to eat, and transportation. Then and only then do we have a real and an equitable Equal Opportunity.

[swoop]

66. You said...

"Personally, I think everyone in this country should be guaranteed a home to live in, health care, food to eat, and transportation. Then and only then do we have a real and an equitable Equal Opportunity."

All I'm saying is you'd have to take money away from the Heinzs and Kennedys, Murthas and Pelosis etc. the same as you would the Cheneys, Bushes, Romneys and Limbaughs.

[TalkingDog]

104. Where does it suggest we only tax Republicans? (much less foist their fatty carcasses on the poor)

I don't think you are reading the same posts as everybody else.

The Japanese system has a salary cap for the top employee. The highest paid employee can make NO MORE than 10 times the lowest paid.

The Highest Paid, then has a strong incentive to increase productivity, quality, sales and so on, because he can then increase everyones wages, including his own.

Everybody works and contributes, everybody benefits, but no one excessively or to the detriment of others.

I think that's fair and all anyone can ask for. I don't really see that happening in America. Do you?

My Favorite Master Artist: Karen Parker GhostWoman Studios

[TheWatcher]

105. And what would be the problem with that?

Somehow your post suggests that we are of the opinion that only the Republicans should be taxed. Well, to be honest I can only speculate what you are talking about, because on the face of it, your words make no sense.

You are simply embarrassing yourself here. Please go back to the other Site you came from where you can be around people closer to your own intellect.

I mean, I have a broken toaster lying around you could talk to, but it can't type.

[pitohui]

72. rich people don't work harder than i do, so get over it

if compensation was based on how hard you work, the ditch diggers would have all the money

getting drunk and doing coke in an air-conditioned office before stepping on an airplane to drink champagne in business class before shaking hands with your buddies in some private club in london -- and calling it work -- and taking money for it

that's bogus

people don't have the same opportunities, never have, never will, and only stupid people incapable of believing their own lying eyes believe they do

[jgraz]

80. You seem to be working very hard at keeping your head in the sand

How much are you getting paid for that?

[TheWatcher]

106. How so?

Ir seems to me he doesn't have to work very hard at all for what appears to come naturally to him.

No effort required.

Just wind him up and watch him go.

[SammyWinstonJack]

111. LOL!

You aren't serious, are you? Some people work two and three jobs just to survive and georgie calls that "uniquely American". I suppose those people aren't entitled to a better life than, say, a professional ball player, simply because one has talent? oh boy! :eyes:

[JackRiddler]

10. This post is transparent propaganda on behalf of the class war from above.

After so many years of the wealthy elite fucking everyone else, of course there are those among the fucked who identify with the rich to the point that they think it's the rich who are endangered.

Every American needs to spend a night in jail, it's a real eye-opener. Every American needs to spend a night on the street, to see where people really are being "strung up" to die.

[FreepFryer]

40. Correct you are. The OP is transparent and manipulative, like most from the mouths of bluebloods.

[TheWatcher]

107. Well he is transparent but not very clever.

That's what they still haven't learned yet.

They like to try to come her and be coy, and clever, and subliminal, and work their schtick, but what they fail to realize is that they are dealing with a group of mostly sharp people who can see through it a mile away.

It's embarrassing. They aren't smart enough to realize it either.

[Richard Steele]

42. No surprise there, considering the source. He's been doing this a lot lately. nm

[TahitiNut]

61. Aww... c'mon, now. You make it sound like a "drive-by trolling."

Haven't you seen the OP fairly engaged in serious and intellectually honest discussion in his own thread?

No? Neither have I. :shrug: (He must be too busy pissing on the homeless.)

[lurky]

11. Who said "Git da Rich"?

It sounds like you are quoting someone. :shrug:

[Leopolds Ghost]

28. The Blue-Collar comedy guy.

Oh no, that's "Git 'r done."

RGBolen is right. See, EVERYONE wants to be rich. That's what America is all about. It's known as the Baptist Church, directly descended from the pro-business wing of the 17th century Puritan church in Holland and Britain which funded the rise of the Western state economic system and
invented concepts like the stock market in areas of Dutch and British
influence, chiefly Holland, London and Newe York (formerly Niew Amsterdamm). There is no class conflict in America because the casual religious belief of most Baptists and mainline protestants is that class conflict is evil, but greed is good, because monetary success issymptomatic of a moral victory under Calvinist and Secular Judeo-Christian (Deist, Atheist, Jewish, Episcopalian -- all the little branches of the post-1600s Enlightenment bourgeoisie that sprung up in Reformation Holland and England) theology. They were all rebelling against Catholicism and the "lazy, carefree, land-oriented" aristocratic mentality of Catholic Europe, but also trying to create a new class of privileged burgomeisters in which the remainder of the polis is governed by contract instead of by station, in which religious freedom for all these persecuted sects (not least, the intolerant Puritans and Baptist Calvinists who moved to America) is coupled with a civic religion (secular or religious, basically social Darwinism -- a Protestant re-imagining of Darwinism, in fact) that promotes the never-ending increase of wealth amongst the privileged class.

[KG]

12. re-education camps.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

13. I haven't seen anybody proposing KILLING the rich

Just getting rid of their tax loopholes and the flaws in the corporate tax structure that let bankrupt companies pay "golden parachute" bonuses to their executives before paying wages, benefits, and pensions owed to the rank-and-file workers, you know, the people who actually do all the work. Stuff like that.

[LostInAnomie]

14. The question is moot.

The last two capitalists on Earth will kill each other fighting over possession of the rope that will hang them.

[warren pease]

15. Fill a large pot with water, a bit of salt and some olive oil for the pasta dish...

...meanwhile, prepare the roasting pit for some extended use.

wp

[Leopolds Ghost]

27. Eat them with fava beans and a nice Chianti.

[Quantess]

20. 'Git da rich'?

Is that surfer speak, bra?

[RadiationTherapy]

33. No, that is his "po people" slang. because "po people speaks bad english"n/t

[last_texas_dem]

81. And you have to watch out for anyone with a southern accent, too.

They're all on crystal meth, you know...

(Just recalling an earlier post from the OP.)

[MrSlayer]

21. Eat them of course.

Whatever Lemmy says.

[Buns_of_Fire]

76. ...don't forget the steamed rice and a nice MD 20/20!

(Have you priced fava beans and nice Chianti recently?)

[Occam Bandage]

22. I only play catch-and-release class warfare.

[The Inquisitive]

23. Horde their money and live like a king!

With all the money I'd probably set up a bunch of overseas production facilities of various sorts to ensure I could maintain my newfound fortune. Then I'd buy off a bunch of politicians to protect my immense wealth from the hungry masses gnawing at my heels.

[FlyingSquirrel]

24. Is there an exception for certain rich people like Bill Gates?

Who set up foundations and give hundreds of millions to various causes?

I mean really, not all rich people are worthy of the above treatments. The real problem is not the rich people themselves, but the system that is redistributing the wealth ever upward in their direction at the expense of the rest. And the scum of the earth politicians who make that happen.

[Leopolds Ghost]

26. RGB, the issue as you know, whether an economy is capitalist, communist or feudal...

Economics dictate that wealth exists only in proportion to other people.

As such, everyone cannot be wealthy. If everyone were wealthy, the
result would be rampant inflation reducing the net worth of the top
tier while (at best) increasing the RELATIVE net worth of the bottom tier
(it's all paper anyway, a society's actual consumption is purely
dependent on inergy infrastructure and the division of labor, i.e.
how much free time and capital do SOME get to buy extra services
with the dividends of their labor, at the expense of OTHERS who have
to pay for said dividends by generating material goods at an actual
loss (this is the feudal / colonial / third world manufacturing system
on which we have always depended in a nutshell).

So the real question is:

Do you want SOME to be rich while others must be poor?

Or do you want to level the playiong field -- increase
the proportion of the economy in the hands of the producing
("manufacturing and service jobs") and lower classes at the
expense of the consuming ("value added jobs") and investor classes?

Wealth and poverty go together due to basic economic principles.

What does your religion say about this -- if you have one?

See, people with some pretty specific religious beliefs
created Western style capitalism. They did it in a country
called Holland in the 17th century at a very specific time
in history. Their justifications were cultural, religious
and philosophical -- at the time, most religions did not
(and still do not) condone usury (in fact, usury was illegal
in the US until Nixon).

Argue with their "whacko" religious beliefs - such as
the Protestant work ethic, a type of social Darwinism
that predated Darwin and laid the foundation for much
of the present misunderstanding about how the world works.

The notion that ones objective in life should be to get ahead
of others, including ones parents, for example.

[Tyler Durden]

29. Why you consider yourself a Progressive is beyond me.

You should be campaigning for Bush's tax cuts for the rich. It's obvious you would be more comfortable there.

It is a Sad Commentary that When someone posts a poll like this as a Joke, they get excoriated, while when you do it people actually consider it valid.

Why are you even Here?

[LostinVA]

57. Maybe it's performance art

Really bad performance art.

[Tyler Durden]

58. I am thinking this more and more each day.

In the survival race, I'm betting on the roaches and the rats.

[pitohui]

74. i'm pretty sure it is EOM

/

[Tesha]

30. I winder which answers to this poll will get one banned from DU?

Maybe we need a ruling before any more people "choose".

Tesha

[Leopolds Ghost]

38. This push-polling and tracking stuff has made me feel very uncomfortable.

Not to sound like a dissident, but here is my samizdat proposal:

1. Somebody alerts a poll, or maybe two or three alerts depending on how trigger happy folks are.

2. The site auto-generates a bright red tag (like the New Messages! tag) saying:

"Automatic disclaimer: This post has been alerted and the poll choices given may (or may not) meet our content restrictions. Participate at your own risk."

3. And then in smaller text, a disclaimer: "As a Progressive site, DU
cares about the implied right to privacy and does not collect info on
user response to polls that a user does not choose to make public. DU
recognizes that a poll in which responses are public, or implied that
they could be made public, is not a valid gauge of anything. However,
to prevent malicious misuse of polling, mods will be entitled to see
the identity of anyone participating in a poll after it has been alerted."

4. The alert tag is taken down if the mod determines the poll is OK, and user data on who posted what answer is junked. A reply is only public if a user chooses to be open in his or her response. (This is called
"liberal Enlightenment rules of discourse")

Of course, this would just be making existing rules public and transparent.

[Desertrose]

71. That was my first thought too.....

I think I shall abstain...what's the point to this poll anyway?

Culling the herd?

[Ganja Ninja]

31. How about another choice: "We live happily ever after." n/t

[El Pinko]

32. I don't know, as a lefty, I'm just too consumed with blind hatred for them to think straight.

:sarcasm: - or at least that's the stereotype this thread is supposed to validate, right?

Personally, I want a much more progressive income tax code and more extensive estate tax. But I don't bear the rich any ill will at all.

Some of my good friends are pretty well-heeled, big deal.

The fact is that having a more progressive tax code helps make our nation's wealth more broad-based, makes fiscal sense, and puts the tax on those who have been most fortunate, which is ultimately just and sustainable policy.

It has nothing to do with envy, hatred or any of the other old GOP strawhorses. It's the people who have slashed taxes on the rich for the last 3 decades who waged a class war, NOT us.

[conscious evolution]

34. Hold them accountable for their crimes.

[FreepFryer]

39. Typical divisive bullshit. Enforce antitrust law, close offshore loopholes and tax their income 80%.

Show them exactly what they're entitled to as American citizens.

To hell with the aristocracy.

[Selatius]

46. Curse them with a minimum wage job as the only source of income. n/t

[LSK]

47. tax them???

:shrug:

[Junkdrawer]

55. Restoring Democracy is cruel and inhumane to the Fabulously Wealthy...

We should be flogged for even THINKING of such an idea.

[LostinVA]

56. You definitely DON'T drink with them

[Javaman]

64. Soylent Green is made of rich people!!!

er, okay, a little stringy but passable.

[Bicoastal]

68. This is just stupid...

...SOME people weren't born wealthy, but managed to work their way up the ladder after years of hard work and labor.

Should THEY be beaten or maimed as well?

You have an infantile view of the American class system.

[RB TexLa]

69. I didn't vote for any of the options I gave

[ret5hd]

75. You have totally misinterpreted RGBolen's function here.

[CRF450]

77. I agree, even though this poll is a joke.

Their are alot of people who rightfully make huge amounts of money when they worked hard for it.

[Uncle Joe]

78. The poll is a joke as I believe the vast majority of people voting were making a joke as well,

although you never know, there might one or two crazy people running around.:crazy:

[last_texas_dem]

79. Close their tax loopholes? And bring back the pre-Reagan tax rates?

Those sound like good starting points, at least.

And who are you quoting with the "git da rich" statement, anyway? The only place I've seen it said was by you in an earlier thread.

[jgraz]

82. My guess is the OP's never made close to 6 figures in his life

We have a word for that where I'm from: SUCKER. Congrats on fucking yourself over.

[slackmaster]

83. If Congress never gets around to indexing the Alternative Minimum Tax to inflation

Eventually we'll ALL be "rich".

[Richard Steele]

86. Howzabout: once we "git" them, we make them form a line and kick RGBolen in the balls one at a time?

We could do it live on Pay-Per-View,
and use the resulting million$ to fund
social programs for folks who aren't
thinly-veiled FReepTrolls.

Just a thought. :think:

[HughBeaumont]

87. Go away, pro-outsourcer free-trader Joe.

This poll is stupid and so is you're M.O. The rich DON'T pay their fair share and no amount of Liberpublicanized two-stepping around that fact is going to change that.

[treestar]

90. Put them in a luxury prison

Teach them about how to relax and let other people do some of the work, rather than working themselves to death because of their fear they'll never have enough.

[conspirator]

91. FORCE THEM TO REDUCE WORKING HOURS, TOINCREASE HOLIDAY TIME

TO PAY THEIR TAXES
TO PASS LAWS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION TOWARDS EDUCATING INDEPENDENT MEN AND WOMEN NOT WAGE SLAVE ROBOTS
TO PROVIDE FREE HOUSING FOR EVERYONE
TO PASS LAWS ALLOW FREEDOM OF AERIAL TV AND RADIO BROADCASTING FOR EVERYONE, NOT JUST PEOPLE WITH MONEY

I think would go with that to start with

[zorahopkins]

93. I Refuse To Vote In Such A Poll!

I refuse to vote in a such a terrible poll!

The rich should be heavily taxed and compelled to contribute their fair share to the common good.

But I would never support any of the actions in this poll.

I am frankly surprized that there are people here who would support such actions against any human being.

[AZBlue]

95. Other: I think this hate the rich BS is absurd.

[RB TexLa]

96. You think?

:hi:

[AZBlue]

97. :-D

:hi:

(Unfortunately though not many here seem to get it!)

[kineneb]

99. Madame Guillotine, sharp sticks, tar and feathers

Not necessarily in that order. We start with the living remainders of Enron and WorldCom's upper management, the ones who are not already in jail with life sentences (damn, it leaves out Bernie Ebbers, who now wears orange).

And Bill Gates, for stealing several early, good OSs, and creating the Windoz monster from them.

Actually, I would sentence them all to full-time, unpaid work at homeless shelters and food kitchens, for the rest of their functional lives.

[lumberjack_jeff]

100. Do ants qualify as wild animals? n/t

[ToeBot]

101. Force 'em all south across the border?

Let President Calderón deal with the scum. I hate level 2, normally I'd never have to see this bullshit.

[Blue_Tires]

102. set them all up in a commune!

[ErnestoG]

103. Eat them?

n/m

[TheWatcher]

108. Take One Bite Now And Spit Out The Rest

[workinclasszero]

109. Take away their tax cut and

make them pay for their damned war.

How about pass a law that states as soon as we engage in a military action anywhere in the world all 18 year old males and females are subject to a draft?

If rich rethug kids had to fight and die in Iraq, it never would have happened, guaranteed.

Tax the living shit out of fility rich american corporations that offshore all the middle-class supporting jobs as well.

Thats just for starters....

[ileus]

113. Anyone making more than my family I consider rich.

[JosephSchmo]

114. Tax them and don't stop until ...

Every American can have the healthcare they need.
Every American gets all the food they need.
Every American gets a job that pays at least 15 dollars an hour.
Every American goes to college so they can make something of themeselves.

Or maybe I'm just crazy and we need more golden sinks and private jets.