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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:35 PM
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Don't Even Think About It - Enter the thought police. (Mother Jones)
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Don't Even Think About It
Commentary: The war against "homegrown terrorism" is on. Enter the thought police.

By James Ridgeway and Jean Casella

January 23, 2008


Perhaps no campaign tactic is more effective than fearmongering, and in the current presidential race the sum of all fears, once again, is radical Islamic terrorists—or "jihadists," to use the now-ubiquitous term. On the Republican side, it's a pissing match over who can look toughest against this shadowy enemy, with John McCain running ads showing masked Islamic gunmen, while Mitt Romney spouts the old neocon warning about forces that want to "unite the world under a single jihadist caliphate." Although the Democrats' rhetoric is more restrained, Hillary Clinton didn't hesitate to suggest that the new president might quickly face another terrorist attack on American soil, as part of her quest to convince voters they need her cool-headed experience.

Largely ignored by the mainstream candidates—as well as the mainstream media—are the latest efforts to bring the fear home by targeting "homegrown terrorism"—another new catchphrase. Only liberal Democrat Dennis Kucinich and libertarian Republican Ron Paul have warned that in the name of stopping domestic terrorist plots before they happen, Congress is in the midst of passing legislation aimed not at actual hate crimes or even terrorist conspiracies, but at talking, Web surfing, or even thinking about jihadism or other "extremist belief systems." Last October, a piece of legislation called the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 sailed through the House with near-universal bipartisan support; it is likely to reach the floor of the Senate early this year and appears certain to be signed into law.

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Both the legislation and the report are presented as reasonable, rational responses to the threat of terrorism from domestic "extremist" groups and are framed not as plans for action but as efforts to "study" and "understand" the roots of homegrown terrorism. Both promote precisely the kind of broad approach—targeting beliefs rather than actions, assuming that "radicalization" leads to violence, defining terms loosely and casting a wide net—that has been used in the past by government authorities to monitor and disrupt legitimate dissent as well as illegal plots.

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Wherever it may ultimately lead, the bill seems clearly part of a growing push toward expanding domestic intelligence operations—spying that is aimed not at any Al Qaeda members who may have slipped across the border, but at U.S. citizens and legal residents. The great civil libertarian Frank J. Donner, in his book The Age of Surveillance: The Aims and Methods of America's Political Intelligence System, argued that the true goal of domestic intelligence was not to prevent or punish criminal activity, but to protect existing power structures and suppress dissent. Unlike law enforcement, which deals with illegal actions that have already been committed, domestic intelligence is by nature "future-oriented": It is not looking for criminals, but potential criminals, and it does so by relying on "ideology, not behavior, theory not practice." Anyone who thinks the wrong way could at some point act the wrong way--so they have to be watched.

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http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2008/01/homegrown-terrorism.html
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:57 PM
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1. There will always be a way to circumvent surveillance
to a determined criminal organization that is truly dangerous. What if blackwater were to move it's operations underground? Or some other radical right organization? They could blindside our anti-terrorism network because Bush has put them in charge of it. While intelligence agencies listen in on 12 year-old kids making butt jokes about president Hillary, inside operatives could doing horrible things. Those are the homegrown terrorists I fear.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:35 PM
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2. Hammer meets nail!
It's whats on the plate. to protect existing CORRUPT power structures and suppress dissent.
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2 Much Tribulation Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 08:12 PM
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3. Agents asked to spy on US citizens ought to resign their jobs, if they're real Americans

Domestic Spying? Don't Even Think About It
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 11:27 PM
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4. Self-delete -- wrong thread
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 11:30 PM by warren pease
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