Apparently Huckabee is a socialist.. (do Freepers even know about dictionaries?)

[SoCalDem]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1957764/posts


To: DogandPonyShow

Now someone else needs to step up and take out that socialist Huckabee.

16 posted on 01/22/2008 11:20:28 AM PST by Gipper08 (a real conservative for Congress... Aaronhankins.com)

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To: tpanther

I still believe that there will be a brokered convention.
And that Dick Cheney will be the GOP candidate & next POTUS.

now lets seeeeeeeeeeeee...who will be the VP?
Ann Coulter?
Mark Levin?
Laura Ingraham?

BIG SMILE!

43 posted on 01/22/2008 11:23:25 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)

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This 211 reply thread is a hoot.. There is much gnashing of teeth (up to 18 per noggin, I'm guessing), and wailing about Poor half-dead Fred..

[YOY]

1. How the f*** is Huckabee a Socialist???

F*** dictionaries...they need a whole Polisci class to get their dumb asses in order...oh wait...edumacated peeple are stoopid!

[water]

4. Far f rom socialist, but he is the furthest left on fiscal policy.

[YOY]

8. Just as Hillary and Obama are far from "Liberal"...but try teaching them anything

n/t

[water]

13. Currect, they are both center/left, with Obama being closer to the center...

... and probably even closer during the general election.

[YOY]

18. No. No, they are not. Neither is Edwards.

Sorry to disappoint. All three are Center-Right actually.



Really only Kucinich and Gravel are "Left"...As much as I like them they are "too left."

Please note that Ron Paul is truly "apeshit" according to the compass.

[water]

20. Give me a break!

That chart is meaningless without the criteria. :)

[YOY]

21. Actually it's completely meaningful. I didn't make it up and it's not out of the left field.

It's just how it is... :shrug: Pretty mainstream information based on stance. Take a look at the European comparisons if you don't believe me.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/usprimaries2008

Here's 2004 as well:


What is really "Right" and "Left" in a world that is balanced is beyond most folks in this country as we often fail to use other systems as a means of comparison.

[water]

25. It's a ridiculous chart.

It doesn't leave any room for true extremists. Where would a Stalin, Hitler, or Mussolini fit in? What about a hardcore libertarian/capitalist like Ayn Rand? Not nearly far enough away from any of those people.

In addition, but as a much smaller issue, it doesn't take into account the political landscape of each person. In an economically far-left country, someone wanting to change things towards capitalism would still appear as a far-left figure on that chart! It should be taking into account which direction the views would take their countries, not their current political platforms.

[YOY]

35. You didn't go to the site did you? If you take the test you will see Stalin, Pol Pot, Ghandi etc...

It shows exactly where they fit in. This is simple universally agreed upon PoliSci.

The site and the science behind it are absolutely dead on. The FAQs answer your question and others.

Take the test and find out but please do not continue to insult me for showing it.

[water]

47. I did go to the site.

I know that Stalin, Hitler, etc. will sit somewhere on the chart; my point is that their views differ far too much from those on the chart compared to their distance (and compared to how close the existing people are too each other.

The right-axis is economics. How the hell is Ron Paul barely in front of McCain? It's flawed, and not "universally accepted".

[YOY]

48. Why the hell are you arguing with me about this? Most PoliSci studies would agree with the compass.

Have you ever taken a course in it? You really shouldn't be arguing with me about it. Feel free to send the compass creators a piece of your mind.

I have a feeling you never have. It is no where near a flawed as you want it to be.

[Two Americas]

39. the weakness

The weakness of the chart is that it mixes in "cultural war" issues, which have nothing to do with politics, with political issues.

Power and economics are what politics have always been about.

We have many Democrats who are "far left" on the cultural war issues, but deeply and profoundly conservative on true political concerns of power and economics.

Huckabee, while "far right" on the cultural war issues, is to the left of many Democrats on real political issues.

Republicans are moving into the vaccuum left by the Deomcratic party's abandonment of Labor and the poor (which now includes just about all of us in the country, or soon will.)

[YOY]

40. Take it up with the theorists

I personally disagree...

[Two Americas]

41. theorists?

Such as FDR? That is whose ideas are informing my opinion here.

I am talking hard nosed practical politics, not theory.

[YOY]

42. The folks who made the political compass...it's their "theory" to assign schools of political though

thusly...

[Two Americas]

43. agreed

And it is congruent with modern notions about politics, as corrupted and defined by decades of extreme right wing propaganda and the creation and use of "cultural war" issues by the Republicans to gain power. That does not mean that we must accept those premises, and I would maintain that by accepting them we are a long ways down the road to surrendering to them.

[AndyTiedye]

26. And You Wonder Why the Pendulum Always Swings to the Right?

[yardwork]

28. Look at Mittens. As close to the Authoritarian absolute as possible.

Yeesh. Romney is the worst of the lot.

[NewJeffCT]

22. But, if you listen to Rush and his Ditto-Head Army

Hillary & Obama are radical socialists, bordering on being commies and that the Democratic Party is way, way, way to the left of where they were in the 1960s.

[YOY]

24. Yes, but they're assholes

I know from experience and that I used to be an asshole before I actually learned that people from other countries actually have higher standards of life and DAMN me! I wanted the same for my country!

Damn you passport! Damn you to hell!

[water]

27. Conservatives seem to like Obama (read: he has a chance).

[NewJeffCT]

33. Barack Hussein Obama, the Muslim educated in a radical Madrassas?

The only Democrat I've heard Rush express anything positive for has been Kucinich. And, that was because - according to Rush - Kucinich spoke his mind and would take firm stances on the issues, while the other Democrats wouldn't take any strong stands on anything. Again, that was Rush and this was before Biden, Dodd & Richardson had dropped out of the race.

[dorkulon]

46. No. No. No he isn't.

A flat sales tax is more regressive than any other candidate's tax plan. Huckabee pays lip service to "populism," but he is a rich man's wet dream.

[Kittycat]

2. A repuke posted on another site I frequent, that he & McCain are both democrats.

After I corrected her, she began referring to them as Republicrats :eyes:

[niyad]

3. dictionaries don't help those who cannot read. my question is, "do they even have two

brain cells that arc?"

[unpossibles]

5. "Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots!"

wow. Irony runs deep over there.

I love how this crowd never takes responsibility for their own actions or failures. Bush - who they defended forever - is now considered a Liberal along with Nixon by many of these clowns. I've seen them call Clinton a Socialist too! Jeez.

[CJCRANE]

6. Freepers' posts always

seem like parody to me. I can't take them seriously.

[jwirr]

7. They are anti-intellectuals - dictionaries are against the rules. nt

[crim son]

9. It's funny but a little bit scary, too.

What in the name of gawd do they find to admire in Fred? Also, "popen borders"? :rofl:

[SoCalDem]

12. He's a mooooovie star like Reagan..and he's "dreamy" and he dated a CW singer

and he talks with a southern accent like the guys from "Dukes of Hazzard":shrug:

[Arkansas Granny]

16. That's the thing. He could act Presidential enough to fool them

into thinking he was good at it, like Reagan did.

[SoCalDem]

19. and wouldn't you know.. all the best writers were on strike..

He couldn't get scripts..

[Arkansas Granny]

38. Very astute observation!

:rofl:

[robbedvoter]

10. "Socialist"= everything that we don't like. It's a special dictionary - they teach in speacial ed

[KillCapitalism]

11. Well, he complained about big corporations...

so he has to be a pinko Commie right? :sarcasm:

[Mythsaje]

14. Proof positive these people are psycho...

Dick Cheney the next POTUS? He's about as popular as scabies. Hell, he's about as friendly as scabies.

Nobody wants to have a beer with Cheney, especially if he's anywhere near a shotgun.

Freepers are the kind of people that morons pity.

Bleh.

[water]

29. Yeah, what the hell about Cheney is... good?

[SoCalDem]

45. some freepers think he's a rock-star..and even sexy

:silly:

[Bok_Tukalo]

15. Huckabee is a heretic in the Republican Party

He has expressed concern for the plight of the poor and working class in this nation.


Also, in order to balance the budget in Arkansas, and comply with a court order on education, he raised taxes which to the modern Republican makes you worse than Stalin.

[Virginia Dare]

23. He's actually a true conservative christian..

and the freeps are all used to the fake ones.

[yardwork]

30. I think that is correct. He might actually believe in giving things to the poor.

Probably not, but he might, and that's too much of a risk for the Republican Party to take. Huckabee will never get the nomination. The corporations need a corporatist in charge.

[Virginia Dare]

31. He might be a convenient V.P. candidate..

they'll need somebody to throw a bone to the rw fundies.

[NewJeffCT]

34. I agree - I see Huckabee

as a VP candidate for either Romney or McCain so he can help gin up the Fundie vote. We know they won't turn out for a Mormon like Romney, and they don't trust McCain.

[Kingofalldems]

17. Dictionaries are communist

That Webster was a fellow traveler.:rofl:

[yardwork]

32. Are they CCTL?

Are dictionaries "Communists Calling Themselves Liberals?"

That's a new catch phrase. I learned it on Free Republic. :rofl:

[LondonReign2]

36. Once, Huckabee didn't rape and pillage to the fullest possible extent

To Freeptards, that means he is a Socialist.

[LittleClarkie]

37. It depends on where you're standing.

To Conservatives, Huckabee is a Socialist, and Hillary and Obama are Communists, and Moveon.org is a radical organization.

To some who are farther to the left, Huckabee is a fascist, and Hillary and Obama are Republicans.

[Two Americas]

44. yes

From the top of the economic scale, they all look like socialists. From the bottom, they all look like aristocrats and royalty.