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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:52 PM
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So, what would/should we do if a US govt agency all of a sudden decided to pull the plug on the net?
I was just wondering. What would be the best efforts, the smartest preparations, the wisest moves, the best way to keep connected - if this country went under martial law because of this or a future US govt administration decided to try and protect their tails. I know their efforts would have to be very wide to achieve outright silence, but a bunch of orders coming from the sitting CIC and armed guards have a way of getting people to listen.

Thanks for input.
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:54 PM
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1. Simple, general strike.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:55 PM
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2. ssssshhhhhh
Don't give them any ideas.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:57 PM
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3. Storm the Capital with torches
Or be grateful they would be saving me about $50 per month.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:25 PM
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9. I like the thoughts about the cost effectiviness of it all. HA n/t
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:58 PM
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4. Hey! just incase you forgot
this is a Democratic board, those fascist ideas should be expose over

there in Freeper country.

Its amazing that a Liberal will actually think that way.

<got my eyes on you>


:eyes:
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patrioticintellect Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:00 PM
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5. Two choices
1) Ignore it like we do all other real threats to our democracy or freedom

OR

2) Actually the moment we figure out the net is gone, flood all our Internet providers with phone calls jamming their lines and refusing to pay for our Internet bills. When this happens, the corporations that provide Internet collapse, Wall Street goes into chaos, we probably will really have a recession, and what is the premise for this scenario of the net being pulled again?

Why would the government do this when it knows it will bring about chaos? Why would it do something like this to corporate America?
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:30 PM
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12. and demanding refunds
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Ahpook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:02 PM
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6. I'm no expert , but..
can they actually "Pull the Plug" on the net? I can't really see it.

I can see them limiting ISP's in some way so we can't pull up info as we please.

I may be wrong though:)
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:15 PM
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7. I'm pretty sure that they could take out the main routers and name servers quickly
Maybe there'd be isolated pockets of ongoing traffic, but I wouldn't count on it.
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Ahpook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:16 PM
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14. I just don't know enough about this, honestly
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 09:23 PM by Ahpook
I do play an online game and when their provider gets hassled with DDOS attacks, etc, the game servers die. I suppose this is similar?

By the way, this not only affects American subscribers but European subscribers as well.

I need to get myself more aware of this sort of thing.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:25 PM
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8. I would think a preplanned take out of main routers across the country would be simple for them n/t
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:26 PM
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10. I guess, first we'd have to stand up.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:32 PM
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13. And hope our achilles tendons work.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:28 PM
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11. Never happen.
Too much commerce tied up in the web at this point.

They wouldn't dare. Their corporate overlords would be displeased.

- as
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:27 PM
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16. commerce on the web is small potatoes to the REAL overlords
Web commerce is just more diversion for the masses. The critters on top don't care about the merchants in the middle. If they did, the economy would never have been left to get this bad.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:25 PM
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15. Prepare now for that eventuality
There have been posts on DU for Ham Radio operators to post their calls and frequency. They gave us good info about getting short wave receivers so we can have a chance of hearing news should the government black out our usual means.

And, it might be good to learn about the care and training of carrier pigeons. Only half kidding here.

Many DUers are proficient at Morse Code. It might be good for more of us to learn.

Watching the series about the American Revolution is good too. The use of messengers relays worked then and we might do well to study, plan something similar.

The really bad part will be dealing with all the Polly Annas who will be shocked and confused. THEY will be annoying as hell and constantly in the way.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:58 PM
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17. I concur about the last part... You just know it. "what what? our govt did something wrong?"
I thought about the ham radio thing. Couldn't they come up with something that tracks/blocks them if they really wanted to? But, like you said, there are more old fashioned ways to accomplish messages through morse code, pigeons, and code messages.

Thanks for your input.
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:41 PM
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18. they cant. too much biz done over the net. Economy would take a nosedive
they're watching every word we type - tracing so why would they have to pull plug?

they may want to pull the plug - but then we couldnt buy buy buy over the net, and they want us to buy buy buy imported products.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 12:11 AM
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19. It may be easier than we believe, but why be so blunt. Their wet dream is to turn the net
into a biz net tier and a fuzzy net tier which would be charged out of existence. A mob protection racket would be their model.

Example; Du(Skinner) would have to pay a fee for a time slot to get its link open for any requests to read or post. Thus DU would need to charge a fee in order to keep the site open.

Very quickly the net would become biz only.
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