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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:52 PM
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Did Brian Williams "Predict" Cheney's Ouster?? On Hardball: "...a VP vacancy.."
Matthews cut him off right quick, but this turned my head:

WILLIAMS: And the Democrats are so excited.

While some Democrats are bemoaning, can you believe we have got 10 months to go until election year begins, for goodness sake—and Democrats are tearing themselves apart when you talk to them—you talk to Republicans, and they now sound like Democrats. They can‘t believe this kind of thing is going on.

Chris, the most interesting dynamic—and I know you share this theory—is the notion of watching this president, who is so intensely aware that this is legacy, this is ball game right now.

MATTHEWS: Right.

WILLIAMS: He knows that the historians are going to be writing about it.

He has all but said publicly: Just wait. Do a measured view of my administration. Don‘t do any instabooks.

(CROSSTALK)

WILLIAMS: And now he has the ability, with a V.P. vacancy, to tilt, to change the dynamic of this election. Is he really going to watch this organically unfold as someone—I don‘t know, as an observer?

(CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: Well, that brings me back to the book that you have had a hand in. You wrote the introduction in it.


Anyone got a "benign" explanation? WTF?

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 12:56 PM
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1. Talk talk talk! President Cheney's not going anywhere ... he'll finish the term.
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 12:56 PM by ShortnFiery
There's miles (and gazillions of corporate war profiteering bucks) to go before he sleeps.

Maybe he'll get his heart transplant like some right wing nut wished for on WJ this morning ... then HE can run for President (in title too! - he NOW makes all the important decisions within The Unitary Executive). :wow: :scared:
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:24 PM
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13. Actually he doesn't plan on finishing.....he will try and nullify the elections
What better excuse to nullify the elections than starting a massive war in the middle east that just could possibly go nuclear by bringing Pakistan and possibly India into the mix? Why else would they still be grabbing presidential power and undoing the constitution when they are in a lame duck term? I just cannot see them leaving except at gunpoint. Do you think this Iran thing is about anything else>? It's the ultimate power grab. "We can't change presidents in the middle of armageddon." -- GW Bush
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:04 PM
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2. I heard that, too!
Williams said it so matter-of-factly that it sounded like a fait accompli. It spun my head around so fast that I have whiplash today.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:05 PM
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3. I will not forget the Williams/Russert Looks After Their Pre-SOTU Meeting With Bush....
Williams held up a notebook full of quotes he could not disclose because of the terms he agreed to before meeting with Bush. He and Russert both appeared stunned. Russert said they would have to report about what was said 'very carefully.'

Each said the meeting with Bush included Bush giving them a tour of the world, what was going on and what we were doing.

It was obviously an uncomfortable interview since it appeared they were trying to guard what they had learned.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:06 PM
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4. I heard that interview. i admit I did a double take when I heard that
VP comment. Ihave no way of knowing for sure, but it really DID sound like a "slip" to me! We can only HOPE!!!!
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:07 PM
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5. He may just mean that the current VP has no plans to run for president in 08.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:10 PM
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7. I don't think so. The context of the word "vacancy" wasn't just not
running in the campaign.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:32 PM
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14. Yeah, I suppose that could be it
And all he's "predicting" is the coming push for Romney that's already being floated.

My prediction is that they're going to push Romney in front, then "out him" for something "horrible" in order to shift Jeb in at the last minute.

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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:08 PM
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6. I heard him say that last night and had myself convinced that I misheard what he said.
I hope Cheney is still obsessed with Hardball and heard him say that.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:15 PM
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8. Key question. In watching that interview, Tweety barely
registers Brian's slip (a slight pause) and then never revisits the assertion. Do the media talking heads know more than they should? Very curious. I too would love to hear the explanation for the comment.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:19 PM
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9. Doesn't Hardball have a transcript?
If it's taken out of the transcript then I would say it smells pretty fishy.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:23 PM
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11. Here's a link to the video of that interview.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/

I just watched it. It IS the entire interview. Check it out and decide for yourself.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:19 PM
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10. if a vacancy I think Bush would name Rudy
because of the 9/11 connection and because as of right now he is the leading candidate for GOP nomination and does the best in match ups against Democrats. But I think in the end Cheney will stay.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:23 PM
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12. I'm betting on Jeb nt
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:33 PM
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15. Cheney out in '08 and George to run again? That's what I got
out of it.

"And now he has the ability, with a V.P. vacancy, to tilt, to change the dynamic of this election. Is he really going to watch this organically unfold as someone—I don‘t know, as an observer?"

Why did Williams start to say 'someone', then think about it?

First they scapegoat Libby.
Are they going to scapegoat Cheney?
Is 'they' Baker, Botts, Carlyle and all the other honchos? Will Carlyle let Halliburton, KBR, and Blackwell contintue to reign?

Is the vacancy of Cheney the end of PNAC? Maybe the acronym, but never the imperialism. PNAC simply sold the higher honchos a plan that failed in its first stage. Imperialism remains.

Someone write to Media Matters, Media Watch, or? Or maybe they're already on it?
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:35 PM
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16. He was probably referring to the fact that Cheney is not going to run.
As a result, the possibility of negative political consequences for his actions is less.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 01:37 PM
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17. No, it means that unlike most elections, the VP willing not be running for President.
:eyes:
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