Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Tasering the Country Into Submission, We Are a Police State

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:49 AM
Original message
Tasering the Country Into Submission, We Are a Police State
Tasering the Country Into Submission, We Are a Police State
by Anthony Wade

Day by day our civil liberties are eroded in a purposeful campaign to turn this country into a police state. They start with pretending that seat belt laws are designed for safety, when it really just gives the police another reason to pull you over. Same goes for cell phone laws. Then they place cameras at red lights to generate revenue without applying any resources. We all sit silent. I have heard the flawed logic that says, “Well, I don’t break the law, so why would it bother me?” The issue is not whether you feel you break the law, it is the power you concede to others to interpret if THEY feel you are breaking the law. Perhaps the most egregious violations of our civil liberties happen every day when the very people we pay to protect us, instead are killing us. The new weapon of choice is the Taser. Designed to pump electricity into a human being, the Taser has been used inappropriately, and has resulted in the deaths of innocents across this country for far too long now. It is time to remove this weapon from the arsenal of police officers who do not deserve to wear the badges they have.

I say innocents because even though the police have forgotten; this country is based upon the concept that we are INNOCENT until proven guilty. Thus ANY person killed while being arrested was killed while innocent and their death ensures they will be buried innocent as well. Perhaps the flaw at the heart of this problem is that the police seem to operate on the opposite premise. They presume that everyone is a perp (perpetrator), until proven innocent. They no longer work to protect the citizenry, but rather to ensure they are alive at the end of the day, regardless of whether we are or not. Obviously, this is not meant as a broad brush stroke as generalizations are dangerous. I am sure there are plenty of decent honest police professionals but their insistence to silence in the face of what their peers do makes them complicit. It is time to put a human face on the death toll and the spin.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_anthony__080119_tasering_the_country.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:51 AM
Response to Original message
1. Bloomberg wants to take DNA samples from everyone who is arrested, for anything
Not convicted, and not violent felonies - anything.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Wisconsin Police Fingerprinting On Traffic Stops
Wisconsin Police Fingerprinting On Traffic Stops
Sarah Thomsen
WBAY-TV
December 23, 2007

If you’re ticketed by Green Bay police, you’ll get more than a fine. You’ll get fingerprinted, too. It’s a new way police are cracking down on crime.

If you’re caught speeding or playing your music too loud, or other crimes for which you might receive a citation, Green Bay police officers will ask for your drivers license and your finger. You’ll be fingerprinted right there on the spot. The fingerprint appears right next to the amount of the fine.

Police say it’s meant to protect you — in case the person they’re citing isn’t who they claim to be. But not everyone is sold on that explanation.

More:
http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1391
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:48 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. This next generation, this country will go completely down the shithole.
Unfortunately, I am young and will live to see it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:50 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. It's absurd. Everything could be different, be better for all, if people cared/were informed
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:18 AM
Response to Original message
3. Many police were schoolyard bullies
Not only do they bully the populace but their fellow officers as well. Screen these people out and things will get better. These are the people who make policy as to how the law will be enforced. Should the person who held your head in the toilet in 6th grade ever be in a position of responsibility regarding your freedom?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. Authoritarian personality disorder
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:03 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. Thank-you for those links.
I never knew that any one had a word for them other than "hateful, ass-kissing, greedheads".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:13 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. Those with a "potentially fascistic" disposition
And it should be noted that many authoritarians likewise have the psychological requirement of being subjected to rule-crazy, belligerent leaders. It's the might = right thing. I suspect that explains a good deal about Bush/Cheney's die hard cadre.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Apparently Americans are either lacking in intelligence,
courage or both. Otherwise they would rise up and put a stop to this fascists crap.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:45 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. I too believe the rational free thinkers could easily overcome authoritarian blind faithers
We outnumber them. Drastically. Hence the enormous 24/7 cable "news" propaganda effort to control mass opinion.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:26 PM
Response to Original message
10. k & r
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:33 PM
Response to Original message
11. Seat Belt Saved My Life, and those of many others.
And I wish there was MORE enforcement of cellphone while driving laws.

Shut Up and Drive.

The Life you Take Might be MINE!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. That doesn't invalidate the basic argument
The case of seat belts is a tricky one. Yes, they do save lives. But making them mandatory opens up uncomfortable possibilities, especially when cops then become able to ticket you for not wearing them. I'm not sure where I'd draw the line there. Same thing with motorcycle helmets and a host of similar safety issues.

But the situation with tasers is clear-cut and unequivocal. They got brought into general use with the argument that tasing people is better than shooting them -- and now they're being used to zap (and potentially kill) people that a cop would never dream of shooting. The net result is to make people terrified of resisting authority -- and that is a bad idea no matter what you believe about seat belt laws.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. I don't believe such laws are passed with safety over revenue in mind
In propaganda, yes. In actuality, no. Such intrusive measures specifically open the door further for authoritarians to snoop into to and profit from, again, in more ways than one. Never give them the benefit of the doubt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #12
15. Ever Read the Darwin Awards..?
Some people are just too stupid to live without some baseline of acceptable behavior (ie - buckling a seatbelt and keeping your eyes on the road)

Respect for authority is healthy.

Fear of authority is food for revolution.

/i just made that up
//i think its pretty good
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr 29th 2024, 01:09 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC