What Has Hillary Clinton Said about Sibel Edmonds Case?

[fascisthunter]

Any quotes out there?

Would she do anything regarding the gag order on a real patriot such as Sibel? Has she ever been asked? Or would she turn a blind eye to it? I really want to know, because Sibel's case is the kinda a shit that needs to be dealt with and not swept under the proverbial rug like Iran Contra was when Bill Clinton got into office. You want change, PROVE IT!

[Chovexani]

1. Has any candidate talked about this?

I'm curious.

[Bitwit1234]

2. NO nowhere in the press but you know they always hold Hillary

responsible for anything whether the other candidates take a stand or not. And so it goes.

[blonndee]

6. If she's such a good candidate, shouldn't she stand on her own? n/t

[HughMoran]

3. Haven't heard it discussed myself n/t

[fascisthunter]

8. Since it Looks as If Hillary will Be the Nominee

I am focusing on her! And if she does become the nominee, this will need to be addressed. Please try to understand that people are really concerned and not just "picking" on her.

[Chovexani]

16. I wasn't being snarky at all

God knows I'm not a Hillary supporter in the slightest. This is an important issue to me too, and I really am curious because I haven't really heard it talked about. I was wondering if it did come up and there was just the usual MSM blackout, or if no one's touching it with a 10 ft pole.

[fascisthunter]

24. Sorry about that

I really want to know as well. Right now I'm doing some research to find out what all or any candidate has said regarding her case. So far I have found nada. If you do find anything please post it.

[Chovexani]

26. No worries

Emotions are running high around here this election season. :hug:

I guess it's time to use the Google. :silly:

[madeline_con]

4. Here's what Sibel said about her.....

All Show, No Substance
Hillary Clinton, a Fool's Vessel
By SIBEL EDMONDS
and WILLIAM WEAVER

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton is a perfect example; an elected senator who has served six years in her seat, never taking a strong stand in support of her constituents on any serious or controversial issue; a senator who has used her record-breaking TV public appearances to say "nothing"; a senator whose senate office adheres strictly to a motto of "See no Evil, Hear no Evil"; an elected official who has no record of conducting investigations into cases that are matters of great concern to her constituents and to our nation; a senator who has consistently stood quietly on the sidelines when the issues at hand demand public hearings ­waiting to determine the direction of each blowing wind; a politician who has spent all her focus and energy on a campaign of shallow publicity glitz and her PR empire behind it. Here are some documented illustrative examples:



http://www.counterpunch.org/edmonds08282006.html

[fascisthunter]

10. Oy.... Well, That's My Concern

If Hillary gets the nod, I'm afraid she will do nothing about this. FUCK!

[AntiFascist]

11. GEE, you would think that a senator who is so revered in New York City...

would have the decency to investigate the type of FBI corruption that may have added to the intelligence failures which allowed 9-11 to occur. I guess politics trumps decency!

[99th_Monkey]

12. Well, I pretty much agree with her assessment of HC.

Does she say anything about any of the other Dems running.. ?

[madeline_con]

15. I googled the two names, et viola! n/t

[fascisthunter]

17. Good Question

I'm googling Kucinich right now.

[99th_Monkey]

23. I tried too, but to no avail so far. n/t

[leftchick]

41. Ouch! Fool's vessel indeed!

I am still amazed that people support her when her actions, or lack there of, speak to her character more than her empty platitudes.

snip>

Between 2000 and June 2006, numerous contacts with Senator Hillary Clinton over the Stratton tragedy went unacknowledged, or glossed over, or shuffled around to various offices with no substantive action. No less than five Clinton staff members heard presentations and received documentation about the experiments, and Senator Clinton herself is personally aware of the detailed facts of the case. This personal knowledge did not translate into action, for though Senator Clinton carefully scripts her numerous public appearances to give the impression of caring and concern, her actions speak otherwise. She noted "our nation made a pact with those who serve their country in the Armed Forces ­ a commitment that those who served would have access to quality health care through the VA hospital system . . . and they deserve to be treated as the best." But while Senator Clinton was issuing such lofty statements and mugging for photo opportunities with active duty military, she did nothing about the systematic abuse and murder of veterans within her own constituency. The Veterans Affairs Whistleblowers Coalition, and more recently the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition, sent numerous letters and e-mails and copious documentation, pleading for help from the Senator to investigate and address the crimes committed at Stratton, including unrelenting retaliation against the whistleblowers who brought these matters to public attention

Notably, the VAWBC recognized that the motivations and incentives that led to abuse at Stratton were present at many hospitals throughout the VA system, and that greed and poor management in the VA guaranteed that the events of Stratton would be repeated elsewhere. The most vulnerable people, the sick and dying with nowhere to turn but to the VA, were exploited and killed by those tasked with their medical care, and their suffering and death were ignored by Senator Clinton. It is doubly offensive that this woman sits on the Armed Services Committee, which, along with the Veterans Affairs Committee, has the duty to provide for the well-being of current and former military service members. For all her posturing; for a senator who advertises herself as a hawk and pro military; how does she show it in action? By abandoning our veterans and war heroes in need!

Senator Clinton's failure concerning Stratton is not an isolated event; it is part of a pattern of studious avoidance of principled action in the face of serious government misconduct, and the refusal to come to the aid of those people who expose that misconduct. When Bunnatine Greenhouse exposed extraordinary graft and impropriety in government contracting with Halliburton, when Sergeant Samuel Provance reported prisoner abuse and torture at Abu Ghraib, when Russ Tice disclosed violations of the Constitution by the National Security Agency, and when Jay Stroup, Thomas Bittler, Jim Griffin, and Ray Guagliardi exposed serious defects and negligence in the Transportation Security Administration that puts travelers at risk, Clinton did nothing. No words of support, no calls for investigations, no efforts to prevent the lives and careers of whistleblowers from being destroyed. Documents on numerous cases were shared with her office, offers to brief her and her staff have been made on many occasions, pleas for her to live up to the words she so casually utters, have all been ignored, or even ridiculed.

In her six years as senator she has done nothing but attempt to position herself for the presidency, done nothing but avoid acting out of principle and justice, done everything to offend no one.

:applause:

[rodeodance]

5. Has Obama spoken out about it?

Not that I know of!

[blonndee]

7. Sorry, but somehow this reminds me of my HS students.

Me: John, please stop talking and do your work.
John: But Zane is talking too!

Me: Christie, where is your homework?
Christie: Why are you asking me? Bradley didn't do his homework either!

[rurallib]

9. Funny thing. We asked our senator (Grassley) about this the other day

at an appearance. Grassley had mad a big deal of Edmonds a couple years ago. Said he couldn't remember the name. Didn't ring a bell.
Did I mention Grassley is a Republic?

[mmonk]

13. Yeah, we're sure he doesn't remember the letter he and Leahy signed

or the 60 minutes interview or anything like that.

[rurallib]

14. Well he is near 80. Having some of that selective Alzheimer's

[mmonk]

19. But I bet he hears well when the State Department whispers in his ear.

[IdesOfOctober]

18. Kick

Already rec'd.

Ides

[fascisthunter]

21. Thank You Friend

[IdesOfOctober]

42. Thank you for asking a simple question with no answers from the Clintons.

[fascisthunter]

20. Folks... Have ANY OF THE CANDIDATES SAID ANYTHING about Sibel?

just to keep this fair and to inform us all where the candidates stand on such an important topic. And please reframe from making this into a flame war.

[mmonk]

22. Nobody asks them.

At least not in public.

[fascisthunter]

25. Well.... Maybe It's Time Somebody Did

I wish there was a way to do so knowing how touchy this subject is.

[mmonk]

27. I gave this a recommend by the way.

[fascisthunter]

28. thank you mmonk

[LSK]

29. let me post the question again: has any candidate spoken about this case??

Its a valid question because if you want to make this an issue, some candidate must have spoken about this issue to be a beneficial issue to serve as criteria for selecting a candidate.

[mmonk]

30. lukery responded in the FBI Times thread.

[flyarm]

31. Sibel was walked into the 9/11 commission b y 9/11 families..and hillary didn't say

a G.D. thing..and never has..Hillary is a fraud..to her constitutiants..and to the families of 9/11

from fly..a flt crew of one of the airlines involved in 9/11..2001 Flight Attendant of the year NYC Base..JFK,LGA,EWR for one of the airlines..

this is why i will not support Hillary in any way!

nor Obama..I have met both and neither will do a damn thing about investigating 9/11

that is why i support Edwards..he has promised me he will!

[mmonk]

32. He did flyarm?

If so, that makes the presidential choice very easy.

[flyarm]

34. he looked me in the eye and promised..i do not take it lightly..

my co-workers died that day..two of my neighbors lost their sons that day..and i have worked with Pilots for Truth..and the Four Jeresy gals..since two are from my hometown..i take it 100% seriously.

And Edwards looked in my eye in 2004 and now again..in 2007..

that is why i packed up and went to work for him in Iowa..and it is why i just finished packing and leave in the morning for South Carolina..from my Fla Home this time..after just having Surgery on Tuesday..

i amy not be able to do all the canvassing i did in Iowa..but i will be there to help them do whatever i am capable of..now post surgery ( i am going pretty slow)

but By God ..i am going to be there for john..if he will be there for those of us who lost people on 9/11!!

and again i say..he looked me in the eye and promised me..he would fight for answers ...so i am going to fight my ass off for him!

fly

[mmonk]

35. Thanks so much.

Godspeed.

[fascisthunter]

33. He Did?

I would like to hear more about that. If I become convinced I will throw all my weight (that's not much) behind Edwards.

[MercerForPrez]

36. Zip.

eom.

[sojourner]

37. in tonight's rally he mentioned "illegal" wiretaps, adding, "I use that word deliberately"

I think he's our best chance for justice and truth in this nation, and for restoring our rights and our name abroad

[flyarm]

38. what part of that do people not get?? i see people posting here daily who support a lady who

will keep us in Iraq for god knows how long..who didn't do jack shit for anyone after 9/11..and don't tell me she did ..i know better ..up front and personal with it..she did not do jack shit!

what part do people not get that Obama won't even allow it to be discussed..what has become of the real dems here that used to be outraged by this..and yet now pander for the two candidates who could give a rats ass????????

i am dumbfounded at this point..there are people here now.. i do not know,.not in what they said they believed in.. and now their actions!

I am at a loss..but each day i say..i will not come back here..because all i see is frauds!

fly

[sojourner]

40. but please come back...or else help us find "another place" cuz we ain't all frauds!!

:hug:

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