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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:38 PM Original message |
UK Times: Official Documents Prove FBI lied to protect US officials |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. Great article. K&R. |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. bingo |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. Let's Show the MSM |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
25. We'll get to work. |
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randyconspiracybuff (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
4. Under Freedom of Information... |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Your Answer |
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randyconspiracybuff (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. National Security Archives... |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. NS Archives |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. NGOs? |
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randyconspiracybuff (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Maybe This Will Wake Waxman from His |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
61. I doubt it |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
7. Aschcroft that would be him and Gonzales |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. don't forget |
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ajeffersonian (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
10. Reaching the boiling point |
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randyconspiracybuff (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Let's Hope It Boils and Steams |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Hopefully... |
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ajeffersonian (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Hope springs eternal |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
48. The best chance of that happening is the McClatchy Chain of newspapers...n/t |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. What makes you say that? |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. The McClatchy papers have been more independent in their investigation and reporting... |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. They were almost alone reporting a lack of evidence to believe Saddam had wmds... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. I've been having difficulty with them. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 02:04 AM Response to Reply #48 |
79. i wonder why they don't run anything on this? i thought they were |
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kas125 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. I hope it is reaching the boiling point - |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Boiling point |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
14. Comment at Times website |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Definitely will. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
16. why isn't this 'explosive' story in the New York Times |
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randyconspiracybuff (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Because It's Explosive :-) |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #17 |
92. That would be an understatement considering OUR US officials facilitated nuke proliferation. |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. darn NYT |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
19. K&RRR, more obstruction of justice by the FBI...where will this lead? n/t |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
21. hhhmmm. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
26. "how can they possibly be trusted to investigate the CIA's destruction of evidence?" INDEED! |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. And... |
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kas125 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Well, now their excuse is that they can't find any evidence |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. hopefully |
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bonito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
28. K&R |
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kenoma (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
31. Grossman's not worried... |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. darn you kenoma! |
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kenoma (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Sorry lukery! |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:52 AM Response to Reply #35 |
76. just kidding! |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
33. Fuck you, FBI. Just FUCK YOU. It's WE THE PEOPLE, you should be protecting. |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #33 |
78. And that goes for you too Agent Mike! n/t |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
34. Usually when something breaks, it's the coverup that gets them. |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
36. Q for Lukery? How far back in years does this go back? Which US Administrations? Thanks. |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. 1996 |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. To be more specific ... this has to 'pre-date' Sibel's observations, right? Do we know how far back? |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. depends how you define 'this' |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. And as far as using terrorism, drug running, and such for clandestine |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
58. Excellent links! |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:33 AM Response to Reply #39 |
84. OK, I just read through Indira Singh's testimony in 2004.... |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #39 |
91. The corporate owned/controlled CIA has created even greater 'blowback' than ever. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
37. Outstanding post. |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. I have to agree with you .... but it leads me to believe that both Repubs & Dems were involved... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. They are. |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I don't have any links readily available, but I recall reading somewhere... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Here's a link |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. the US was watching the network |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. "watching" or "participating"??? Pakistan should not have gotten the bomb under any set of facts... |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. nope |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. You're right the Pentagon and State told them to --but they had to give Courts a plausible reason... |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. sibel says |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:30 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. I believe her --but Courts operate in a different way than the garden variety criminals... |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. kind words |
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ngGale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
47. K & R ... |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. amazing |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
51. If TimesOnline is smart, they have already 'shared' the info w/another media outlet outside G.B. |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
102. . |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
59. Wow, just wow! |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. With so many knowing in government, |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Sibel says she was warned |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Oh yes. I remember. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:50 AM Response to Reply #64 |
85. There were seven Congressmen pictured at Sibel's post: |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #59 |
67. read it correctly? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
62. Question for lukery or Sibel! |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. ummm |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. was the recorded "High Official" Denny Hastert? |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Don't forget that Denny got a bag full of donations all under $100 ea from the Turks... |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. $100 |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 02:55 AM Response to Reply #73 |
80. The small denominations were intentional to evade campaign finance reporting requirements...n/t |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #68 |
72. "High Official" |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Sorry... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
74. Just Reposted this Elsewhere |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
77. and American government really is amongst the most corrupt |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:06 AM Response to Original message |
81. FBI agent also got rid of anthrax evidence,burned lab, and got promoted. |
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Oilwellian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:17 AM Response to Original message |
82. kick n/t |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:20 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. When the FBI violates Laws nothing ever happens to them. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
86. K&R |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
87. So the whole planet knows that the bush*** admin was stocked with liars, |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
88. Wow!!! This is the mother of all conspiracies!!! The whole Wilson/Plame drama,... |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #88 |
93. ...and where is the 24/7 cable "news" reporting of it? Exactly |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #93 |
96. You mean, the coporate-controlled VIEWS,...we don't have "news", anymore. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Yes, understood. Just further illustrating the point of how big this is, yet zero U.S. coverage |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #98 |
112. I,... |
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StateSecrets (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
89. Morning Kicks: Needes |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #89 |
107. An honor and a privilege |
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Stalwart (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
90. We helped the brits |
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stubtoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
94. A thousand thanks lukery and StateSecrets. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
95. Thanks...K&R as always....... |
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Jon Gold (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
97. Sunday Times Changes Title |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Title prolly peed-off Ruppy's corporate buddies. |
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cal04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
99. lukery, more on this from Brad and Larisa |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
101. I wonder if congress will do anything with this information. |
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ursi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
103. Kick! But who will have the guts to go after these people? |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
104. I wonder why the McClaskey papers have not sopped the story up. |
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kenoma (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Don't worry... Fox News is on the case! |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Fox News?! The media outlet of choice for this Admin to spread their lies! |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #104 |
117. McClatchy has it. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
108. This web page seems to put everything into important context.... |
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f the letter (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
109. Please let this be the scandal that finally wakes people up n/t |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
110. Thank you--Sibel, lukery, leveymg, everyone. n/t |
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Misha2 (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
111. Get angry if you want but- |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #111 |
116. Witnessing enormous miscarriages of justice is painful and stressful. |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
113. Are we going to find out who the 7th Congress person is? |
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lukery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. let's hope so n/t |
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Swagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
115. the ghost of J.Edgar lives on |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
118. I'm so relieved the DOJ is investigating. I trust them 100%.................. |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
119. how far has congress got with understanding what has been going on? |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
120. I think your answer is embedded in the article. This started under Bill Clinton |
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liberalla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 06:06 AM Response to Original message |
121. Kick |
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