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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:24 PM
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"Bluestate, Redstate" - It's a scam
The designation of states since 2000 as Red for Republican and Blue for Democratic long ago became a psychological operation and should be rejected as such.

BACKGROUND:

Since the ascendancy of color TV, blue and red have alternated as the colors assigned to the Democratic and Republican presidential candidates on the election night maps used by the TV networks. Many readers may remember that Reagan states were shown in blue in 1980 and 1984. Bush was given red in 1988, but Clinton states were red in both 1992 and 1996.

An informal rule has governed color selection since 1972 and has almost always been followed by every network: color alternates for the incumbent party. Since incumbency varies, the same party can get the same color several times in a row.

If the rule is followed in 2008, then the Republican states will be shown in blue and the Democratic states in red.

All this is described, neutrally, in what I think is a right-wing blog, which features a table showing what colors were used in different election years:

http://biglizards.net/blog/archives/2006/02/a_tale_of_red_a.html

CONTENTION

After the 2000 election, something changed. For the first time, the colors used arbitrarily on the election night maps came into common usage as permanent symbols of the parties. This may have arisen because the election took more than a month to resolve, so that the TV coverage constantly featured maps with Gore in blue and Bush in red. But since then Blue and Red have remained widespread as terms describing a dichotomy.

Democrats and Republicans may often sound and act the same, but to call them Blue and Red generates a spectacle of true and irreconcilable differences. The two-party system is both legitimated as genuinely adversarial, and enshrined as a natural state. But there is more to it than that.

Colors are beyond rationality. They are abstract and yet emotionally powerful. To speak of Blue and Red is to turn political ideologies into essential aspects of geography, culture and identity. A state no longer votes Republican but simply is Red by nature. The country is graphically polarized. The discourse of the culture wars is given primacy over mere debates on issues. Thus the Blue/Red terminology encourages a manner of thinking about politics that I would argue is skewed to favor "Red."

November will bring a test: if the networks follow their own longstanding informal rule, they will designate blue as the Republican color and red as the Democratic. If they instead stick with the color scheme of 2000 and 2004, they will be intentionally endorsing the role the colors have come to play.
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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:56 PM
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1. Interesting. So I kick. Hai-yah!
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:59 PM
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2. Thank you...
Let's support new material on DU!!!
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:01 PM
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3. It's supposed to be the party in the White House is blue and the challenging party

is red. I wish they would go back to that.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:13 PM
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6. Not quite - see the link in the OP
Since 1972 according to the usual arrangement the incumbent party has been switched between red and blue with each election. So since the incumbent party switches also, you had Clinton in red in 1992 and 1996, then Bush (in keeping with the rule) in 2000 and 2004, and in 2008 the Democratic nom should be red again.

The difference since 2000 and the point of my little essay is that "Red and Blue" entered the language, as we can also see on this board. Basically it's just rah-rah-go-team thinking, but I believe it serves the Republicans. They appeal to the rah-rah mentality, they benefit most from politics being seen as a team sport -- or as a question of essential identity tied to geography and culture. They take identity terms like "Christian" and "traditional" (code for "white") and forge these into majorities, while avoiding issue terms like, say, health and education. Red and Blue is one small thing that feeds into that.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:06 PM
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4. Perception becomes reality.. republicans LOVE red..it reminds them of Blood & lipstick
:evilgrin:

go to google & type in republican red (images)..

Nancy Reagan Red became the de facto dress code for republican women...and men adopted the flashy red tie..(they wear blue when they want to be "bi-partisan")

It's become a brand..like Kleenex for all tissues and Xerox for all copiers..

I don't see the lapdogs changing anything this fall..

Incumbent states should be gray..for same-ole-same ole

Insurgency states should be green ..for electile envy :evilgrin:
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:20 PM
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7. I like your color scheme but...
one reason blue and red are so often the choices in color schemes, besides that they are primary, is that they are always distinguishable to the color blind (who come in different varieties).
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:07 PM
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5. "abstract and yet emotionally powerful." That speaks to psyop's efficacy
Truth be told, the Bush/Cheney regime has certainly never been considered popular by anything even remotely close to a majority. The trouble is the broad chauvinism/jingoism they used as the vehicle for mass acceptance of their draconian methods/policies ... sadly, that shit is highly effective on an unwary, disinformed, propagandized, terrorized populace.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:21 PM
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8. I gotta say, I'm glad Dems aren't "Red," or it'd be constantly
associated with communism. Don't think that'd help us much.
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XboxWarrior Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:28 PM
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9. Colors......and gangs
Crips=Blue

Bloods=Red

It all seems a little childish to me.

Oh yeah Green=Environmentalist.....

It's just a freakin color, get over it.

I have a beautiful red coat, I never wear it cause it clashes
with my red hair.

Who cares?

p.s. I wanna silver and gold state race. (maybe even bronze)
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:43 PM
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10. a bump
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SmellsLikeDeanSpirit Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:20 PM
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11. How elementary, but blue has always been my fav color so I hope it stays the way it has been.
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water Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:31 PM
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12. If red stood for Democrats...
Republicans would be using the "C" word.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:03 AM
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13. another bump
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