Son-in-law boarded airliner with NO photo ID.

[trof]

Business trip BOS-SFO yesterday.
When he got to security he discovered he'd left his wallet at home.
Not just no photo ID, NONE AT ALL.

Somehow, between his convincing 'argument' (he's an attorney) and his firm's travel department, he was able to talk his way into a boarding pass and admittance to the aircraft.
Our daughter Fed-Exed his wallet to him.

So much for 'Homeland Security' and the TSA.
:eyes:

[Cant trust em]

1. I feel safer already

Good thing that we're at color maroon, or whatever the F we're calling it, other wise we'd all be screwed.

[LynzM]

2. They cannot legally force you to show ID.

http://www.lookingglassnews.org/printerfriendly.php?storyid=7040

This is one of several websites I've seen that give the background for it. TSA, as far as I can tell, is garbage, invented in part to "make us feel safer" and in part to keep us afraid.

[trof]

5. Whoa. Amazing.

Thanks.

[LynzM]

18. Yeah, I was pretty astounded.

I still haven't tried this, as I generally am either a) traveling with a child and real luggage, not just carry-on or b) traveling for business, where my arrival time is not really negotiable as much.

Still, it's a good thing to know.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

10. more to make us afraid... in an in-your-face kind of way

[Gormy Cuss]

21. TSA is a dog and pony security show.

Or to use another allusion, all hat no cattle.

[OnyxCollie]

27. You'll have to show an ID when REAL ID comes out.

What is a REAL ID license needed for?

The REAL ID Act requires that a REAL ID driver’s license be used for “official purposes,” as defined by DHS. In the proposed rule, DHS is proposing to limit the official purposes of a REAL ID license to those listed by Congress in the law: accessing a Federal facility; boarding Federally-regulated commercial aircraft; and entering nuclear power plants. DHS may consider expanding these official purposes through future rulemakings to maximize the security benefits of REAL ID.

[Nailzberg]

28. I hear they're having a lot of trouble with REAL ID

A lot of states haven't signed onto it, and the effective date keeps getting pushed back.

I can't keep track of this shit any more, so I just fly with my passport domestically.

[opihimoimoi]

3. TSA have no choice...had to let him board....common sense over strict rules

[KamaAina]

8. Note well: According to the site above, they discriminate against us (and Alaska)!

http://www.lookingglassnews.org/printerfriendly.php?storyid=7040

A. IF THE SELECTEE IS ON A FLIGHT WITHIN THE 48 CONTINENTAL US STATES, OR TO MEXICO, OR TO CANADA, ITEMS CAN BE CLEARED BY EITHER OF THE FOLLOWING METHODS:

1. EMPTY THE LUGGAGE OR ITEM AND PHYSICALLY SEARCH ITS CONTENTS BY A QUALIFIED SCREENER, OR;

2. BAG-MATCH -- ENSURE THE BAG IS NOT TRANSPORTED ON THE AIRCRAFT IF THE PASSENGER DOES NOT BOARD.

B. IF THE SELECTEE IS ON AN INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT -- CHECKED LUGGAGE, CARRY-ON LUGGAGE, AND SUSPECT ITEMS CAN BE CLEARED ONLY BY THE FOLLOWING METHOD; EMPTY THE LUGGAGE OR ITEM AND PHYSICALLY SEARCH ITS CONTENTS BY QUALIFIED SCREENERS.

So now we're an "international flight"? What about an interisland flight (all are less than an hour hop)?

[opihimoimoi]

20. I iz only a poi boy....i neva know dis shit...lol

[Ravy]

4. I don't think TSA has a regulation about showing IDs. It is the airline. nt

[tyedyeto]

22. Where do you think the airlines 'receive' their info about....

who can board and who cannot?

The TSA!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. Well, why shouldn't he?

You can just get your boarding pass from the automated ATM style things now, right?

Or was I hallucinating last time I was in the airport?

[VP505]

7. OMG!

TSA employees using some common sense, what in the hell is happening!

[Nailzberg]

9. TSA does not require you show an ID. Airlines make that policy.

My brother goes through security every time without showing ID, just to keep them on their toes.

[tyedyeto]

23. Airlines do not make policy as to who can go through security checks.

That is TSA.

An airline could give one the go ahead but when it comes to the security checkpoint, that is all TSA. Don't kid yourself that it is not.

[Nailzberg]

26. I'm not gonna argue with you, but I'm going with my brother on this one.

I don't want the hassle myself, but he's done it. It is best to show your ID if you are concerned with missing your plane or unwilling to argue policies with an uninformed TSA screener, but ID is encouraged not required.

TSA has begun training screeners to check IDs at the entry point to the screening areas. It is still not system wide, and at some airports the entry to security checkpoints are still staffed by private security through the airport authority or the air carriers. ID is gonna make your life easier, but a photo ID is not required for passing TSA screening.

[AlCzervik]

11. my daughter is 13 but she looks likes much older, when we fly within the us i bring her passprt

because they always ask her for an id.

[matcom]

12. dude, he is WHITE

(I'm assuming).

we whities get a free pass don't you know

[alarimer]

13. Yes it is a good thing too

What if you were robbed on vacation and had no ID and couldn't get a new ID before you left? You would literally be stuck. You couldn't rent a car (no driver's license, if that was what was stolen), no bus, no train.

It would be a stupid system if they wouldn't let you board without an id. All they have to do is some extra screening of you and your carry-on.

[warren pease]

14. Imagine TSA's heartfelt concerns over administering a stupid system that inconveniences travelers.

[alarimer]

19. It's an asinine system that does no good.

Just window-dressing to make you feel like they are doing something.

I am GLAD they let the person on without ID. Showing they have a little common sense instead of the shit-for-brains they usually seem to have. Shit-for-brains with bad attitudes at that.

[Yael]

15. Is he not going to have problems coming back?

[FreeState]

16. I have done that before - wallet stolen on vacation

all you have to do is call ahead and they let you on - or at least they did me.

[Fleshdancer]

17. On a business trip....

I was flying with 2 colleagues and we were all listed under the same account (or whatever you call it). I checked in with one colleague while the other was returning the rental car but the guy behind the counter gave us all three tickets. He checked in our third person without him even being there. Needless to say, it freaked out my colleague when he arrived and I handed him his boarding passes.

[LizW]

24. I flew with 220 high school kids

New Year's Eve out of Phoenix and they didn't ask any of them to show ID. They told us that anyone under 18 doesn't have to. That was the first I had heard of this. When we've flown as a family our kids have always had to have a picture ID, and I know friends who have to take their infant's birth certificate along when they fly.

[Leopolds Ghost]

25. Gloria, Liz, I hope YOU aren't "freaked out" by the prospect of moving around the US w/o "papers".

Many Democrats here including so-called "lefties" have bought into the unconstitutional notion that carrying ID at all times is "common sense" and a person without it is a fool. "What if I got murdered and nobody knew who I was? What if I got mistaken for a terrorist?" They are comforted by the notion that we all suffer equally repressive cloud of suspicion at all times because it surely means the terrorists are out there suffering right along with us, hence the absence of attacks. Oh, and they bristle at the notion that once you could just walk into the PEOPLES house (capital legislatures) without producing papers to show that you were wanted, even to attend a PUBLIC hearing. "No ID, no entry, no food, you can't throw that away here, you have to go back where you came, so what if they don't own a plastic card, that means they are not entitled to the rights of citizens because they are not in our tracking system." Most Americans feel an implicit sense of comfort knowing they are in the already tracked and scanned, non-threatening, walk right-on-through "safe" group. It gives them a sense of entitlement, nay demand that others not be allowed to follow them on the preferential line without careful vetting before they too are approved for good credit, good money and a clean bill of genetic health.