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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:18 AM
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Just received an email - The Republican Recount is OFF
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 10:21 AM by Laura PackYourBags
Just received this email. I have not been able to confirm this from another source....NOTE: Republican Recount!!!




Karen

I do not know where to begin with all of this so I will just lay out the basic facts as they are being reported to me:



The state of New Hampshire ballot appeared to have been tampered with.

The people of America (and about half of the world too!) pulled together to sign a petition and have their voice heard, across the aisle, in an effort that has seen both Democrats and Republicans call for a recount of the ballots for the state of New Hampshire.

The Secretary of State placed a January 15th @ 15:00 deadline for the $55,600 to be handed over to cover the cost of the recount.

The money was raised by, again, people from all walks of life who simply wanted to see that every vote was counted.

At the very last moment, PayPal froze the Granny Warriors account and refused to release the funds whilst they “investigated” a “suspicious” $1000 donation.

The money could not be handed over and thus, at this point in time, it appears that the recount will NOT take place.


So, the following is what we are meant to believe:



PayPal have clearly not been paying ANY attention to what has been happening during this campaign and thus have no idea how quickly and in what amounts the Ron Paul Revolution is able to raise funds.

PayPal were clearly unaware that Ron Paul supporters were in the majority of those donating to this effort and would likely break the target REGARDLESS of what last minute donations were required.

PayPal were so unlucky during the four days that this appeal ran that they managed to:
Crash the original ChipIn at least 3 times making it impossible during this time to donate any money at all.

Destroy the original ChipIn altogether after around $40,000 had been donated requiring the Granny Warriors to start a new ChipIn for the remaining monies.

Crash the new ChipIn for about 2 hours on and off on the final fundraising date.

Stop the recount by denying that all and any funds received are now frozen (note: NOT just the $1000 which, by this point, was no longer needed as we were over the top by then) pending an investigation into where a perfectly decent sized donation came from.

The Secretary of State is unable to stretch the deadline or accept that said funds exist regardless of the amount of documented evidence placed on his desk.

This entirely calamitous and accidental chain of events was, at no point whatsoever, manipulated by anybody to ensure that this recount never took place.


I am sorry but I do not believe for one second that 1 through 4 could possibly have happened without 5 being false.



I never will either.



This is democracy being stolen, right in front of our eyes and we are watching it, some in disbelief, some in denial, all in bond.



America has been stolen and the vote with it.



I do not know what comes next. What new horrors? What new wars? What new laws?



I fear for the future of America.



Best wishes and good luck,



Shaun
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:19 AM
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1. Stolen is right
we've got to figure that this would happen. They don't want us to know how the elections are being rigged.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:21 AM
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6. It is not off- This is an email from a freaked out Ron Paul supporter
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:33 AM
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12. "A freaked out Ron Paul supporter" -- what other kind is there? (NT)
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:20 AM
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2. The recount is not off
The Republican side is having a money issue and it was not canceled it's just not starting on time.

Perhaps a news source would be a bit better then a freaked out Ron Paul supporter's email.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:20 AM
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3. One more reason to not use paypal and another reason to hate the way our government
has made it almost impossible to verify votes in this country.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:24 AM
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8. Yes, I just closed everything with PayPal. On a daily basis, I
was getting emails from them trying to confirm my request to change my password - which I had never requested !
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 04:38 PM
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24. Probably spoofing.
Probably not Paypal contacting you, but somebody wanting your paypal password.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:20 AM
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4. ****CONTACT INFO FOR NH SEC OF STATE OFFICE***
New Hampshire
Department of State

Location: State House, Room 204, Concord, N.H. 03301
Phone: 603-271-3242 Fax: 603-271-6316
Email: Elections@sos.state.nh.us
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:21 AM
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5. According to the Union Leader, the Republican recount is off....
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:24 AM
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7. It is post-poned until the rest of the money arrives
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:27 AM
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9. "There is no Republican recount at this point"
"There is no Republican recount at this point," Gardner said. If Howard were to come up with the money during the Democratic recount process, Gardner said he would make a decision on whether to start counting GOP ballots.

"If the money were to show up, I'd deal with it at that point," he said.

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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:27 AM
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10. ON local news they said it was just a matter of waiting for the money to clear.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:45 PM
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18. do you have any kind of link on this?
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:14 PM
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21. I believe you can check bradblog for more info
Something happened that held up the money in PayPal- NH officials said if the Republicans get their money in they can start their recount.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:28 AM
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11. Ron Paul revolution, huh?
Hey, Ronbots should be thankful he got 8%. That's more than twice as much as the idiot is polling nationally.

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:36 AM
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14. It's New Hampshire, the national home of/for Libertarian morons.
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 10:37 AM by Tesha
> Hey, Ronbots should be thankful he got 8%. That's more
> than twice as much as the idiot is polling nationally.

It's New Hampshire, the national home of/for Libertarian morons.

o http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project



Whatever tally he got here is the best he'll ever do in this
contest.

Tesha
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:38 AM
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15. I don't like Paul but ALL votes should be counted and verified. I think the tie
up of funds raised sounds mighty suspicious.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:43 AM
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17. Talk to Pay Pal; as far as I'm concerned they're substantially a scam. (NT)
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bperci108 Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:39 AM
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16. 8% .....That's it?!?!
Good gawd....

My local paper's LTTE page looks like a paid advert for the twit.

The moon-pies here in militia country seem to think he's the second coming.

Alas. Perhaps it's time to emigrate out of Jesusland......


:wtf:

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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:02 PM
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23. And check out all those signs on public rights-of-way
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 02:13 PM by Lasher
Both of the Paulards in my state worked pretty hard to put them all up.

Thanks for the chuckle on my birthday.



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bperci108 Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:18 PM
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25. Well....you don't say.
Happy Birthday!

:party: :toast: :hi: :party: :toast: :hi: :party: :toast: :hi: :party: :toast: :hi: :party: :toast: :hi: :party: :toast: :hi: :party: :toast: :hi: :party: :toast: :hi: :party: :toast: :hi: :party: :toast: :hi::party: :toast: :hi: :party: :toast: :hi::party: :toast: :hi: :party: :toast: :hi::party: :toast: :hi: :party: :toast: :hi::party: :toast: :hi:
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:21 AM
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27. Woo hoo, cyberparty!
Had a great birthday, mostly doing things for other folks. Delivered meals to shut-ins and visited a little kindergarten girl who just broke her leg at school.



Congratulations on a great Jayhawks sesaon and super Orange Bowl win over Virginia Tech!

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:35 AM
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13. "There is no Republican recount at this point,"
Kucinich hands over $25,000 to start NH recount
By TOM FAHEY
State House Bureau Chief
11 hours, 13 minutes ago


CONCORD – A recount of all Democratic ballots from the New Hampshire presidential primary last week gets under way this morning.

The campaign of U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich gave Secretary of State William Gardner a check yesterday for $25,000 to begin the process, which will start at the state Archives building in Concord at 9:30 a.m.

Gardner said Albert Howard, the Republican candidate who paid $2,000 when he requested a recount, did not turn over money to pay for a Republican recount by the 3 p.m. deadline yesterday.

"There is no Republican recount at this point," Gardner said. If Howard were to come up with the money during the Democratic recount process, Gardner said he would make a decision on whether to start counting GOP ballots.

"If the money were to show up, I'd deal with it at that point," he said.


more:http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Kucinich+hands+over+%2425%2C000+to+start+NH+recount&articleId=c5b584b0-6965-4ded-bdd4-b554a0a11399
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:57 PM
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19. Holy Cow The Paranoid Hysterics.
Everything's always a damn conspiracey. Too funny!
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:08 PM
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20. Does everyone recall that this is the exact tactic that held up
Andy's money for his surgery in Paypal?
Somebody donated, then yelled scam--which put the brakes on ALL of the money.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:22 PM
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26. Yes I recall. Zactly same deal.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:16 PM
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22. Aren't the Granny Warriors just older freeper women who support Ron Paul?
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 01:17 PM by NNN0LHI
That was my understanding. Are we working with them now?

Don
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:32 AM
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28. A check was received yesterday for the GOP recount.
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=GOP+check+arrives+as+Dem+recount+starts&articleId=eed65384-1c47-4086-a07f-cd5f29f89f4e

GOP check arrives as Dem recount starts

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

7 hours, 27 minutes ago

CONCORD – Teams of counters have started re-counting the Democratic ballots cast in last week's New Hampshire presidential primary.

They are looking first at ballots from Manchester.

Secretary of State William Gardner says his office has received $27,000 from Ohio Democrat Dennis Kucinich to pay for the start of the re-count. Gardner said observers from campaigns and fair elections groups have the right to see and approve every ballot.

Kucinich received less than 2 percent of the vote. He said he is suspicious of the results, although he doesn't expect a re-count to change his vote count much.

Kucinich can stop the re-count at any time and get a refund for the balance of the costs. To re-count the entire state would cost him about $70,000.

The Secretary of State's office received at $56,000 check yesterday from Republican Albert Howard of Michigan, who has asked for a re-count of the GOP primary.

Gardner was not available to say when the Republican re-count would begin.

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