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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:25 AM
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So since Clinton is the only Democrat on the ballot in Michagan, what does it mean? /nt
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:25 AM
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1. Kucinich is not a democrat? Since when?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:32 AM
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14. didn't mean the way it came out. Just curious how this comes out in the wash
since the state violated the DNC rules

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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:26 AM
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2. The primary means nothing, zilch, nada, zero.
n/t
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:27 AM
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4. Incorrect. The Republicans are having a vigorous primary where they are debating Mich.'s economy.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:39 AM
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11. Good on them Repigs
They are always very concerned about how the economy is trickling down onto us.

Don
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:45 AM
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12. I haven't heard a PEEP from Obama, Clinton, et al about Michigan's economy.
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 10:46 AM by Romulox
So I guess the Party is ceding these voters to the Republicans. It's an idiotic move.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:28 AM
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5. you forgot-----nil------
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:33 AM
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15. so what happens to the delegates? /nt
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:01 PM
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25. Who gets MI delegates - or does nobody ever get them?...n/t
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:26 AM
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3. It's like the groundhog's shadow: it means 4 more years of NAFTA, H1B, "free trade"...nt
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:29 AM
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6. Well considering a lot of people have no idea......
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 10:30 AM by sunonmars

that Michigans delegates were stripped. A huge Hillary percentage tonight might provide an unexpected momentum for her. If Hillary gets over 50% then i suspect a lot of people unlike us will just look at that fact and ignore anything else.

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:36 AM
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16. I am one of those who didn't realize that either. However, since the main focus
is on the repukes by the media, and since they WILL have to report why Obama and Edwards aren't on the ballot, I am sure it may not mean as much

However, if Kucinich wins the primary, that would be news



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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:29 AM
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7. Kucinich not only is on the ballot, he's actively campaigning
I'm sick and tired of people assuming that the nomination is only between two people.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:38 AM
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17. I worded it wrong, give me a break. I was curious about the delegates
I realize now that since MI moved its primary, its delegates have been taken away

I would be quite happy if Dennis won the primary, or for that matter the nomination


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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:30 AM
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8. Nuttin.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:36 AM
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9. That if Obama wins it, it still was not vote fraud and we should just move on
:rofl:

Sorry, couldn't resist.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:37 AM
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10. I am voting UNCOMMITTED. Gore, Edwards, Obama, Richardson, Biden supporters should do the same.
That is what it means.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:53 AM
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13. Allow me to correct your statement
"...Clinton, Kucinich, and Gravel are the only Democrats on the ballot in Michigan..."
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:23 PM
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20. I thought Dodd was on there, too
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:46 PM
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21. I don't believe so.
I got my info from Randi's broadcast yesterday. A google search doesn't give a clear list (a hasty search, that is).
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:52 PM
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23. why would anybody believe Randi Rhodes
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:48 PM
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22. He wasn't on mine.
It was Kucinich, Hillary, Gravel, and Undecided.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:52 PM
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24. then you had a fake ballot and should
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:21 PM
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26. Have you called your state's Secretary of State yet?
Her number is 1-888-767-6424


Please let us know what happens.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:46 PM
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28. Terri Lynn Land, the one who wants to be governor?
She's a Republican.

I honestly don't think it was fake. I think he just wasn't on there.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 04:18 PM
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29. Seriously
if you had a ballot without Chris Dodd on it, it was fradulent, and you should report it.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 04:31 PM
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30. You know, the more I think about it, I remember five lines.
Kucinich
Hillary
Gravel

Undecided.

That must mean he was on there but I didn't pay attention, given I was voting for Kucinich. Weird. Normally, I'm more careful. It's been a bad day, though, considering my vote means nothing to my party.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 05:16 PM
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31. Thank you for your vote!
I'm afraid I won't have the opportunity when May 20 comes around.
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:42 AM
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18. I thought Kicinich was on the ballot too. Whisper campaigns were instrumental
in ending McCain's bid for the presidency in 2004 so why not start a positive one for Kicinich for President? As long as people buy into the media mantra that he's unelectable he won't be. All that's needed is to reach a critical mass, a tipping point by the people. I think all the Democratic candidates are superb and so do not ascribe to the notion of counting any one of them out!
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:22 PM
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19. It would be a joy to see Kucinich win at least one state.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:27 PM
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27. It would be more than a joy.
If Dennis wins Michigan today, that technically makes him the front-runner. Yeah, there's the question of whether the delegates count or not, but the fact is that he would win a bigger state than either Hillary or Obama have.

And THAT is why the DLC'ers are frantically spinning this "vote uncommitted" and "vote Romney" horseshit.
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