I think it's over for Hillary.

[berni_mccoy]

This whole race-card episode has hurt her greatly and not touched Obama at all. I'm an Edwards supporter as are most of my Dem friends and all of us feel this way. I think it's pretty clear she started using this tactic and I believe it's backfired on her greatly. I don't see how Obama has been harmed by it and it only accents the point that someone would use his race against him. It's despicable and I think it marks the beginning of the end of her campaign. Of course, that's been said before, but I don't see how in this party, some gross tactic like this could be tolerated.

[hlthe2b]

1. ....

:eyes:

[LibraLiz1973]

2. make...it....stop

[tandem5]

9. I'm rubbing my temples right now... you? nt

[CatWoman]

19. it hurts, Mommy, it hurts!!!!!

[99th_Monkey]

3. Sadly (in my view) the CA NAACP just endorsed Hillary

bad move on their part IMHO.

[still_one]

5. They don't speak for all African Americans, or young people, or independents

in our state

[99th_Monkey]

15. I'm sure that's true. thanks for noting that. ;-) nt

[still_one]

18. That goes for any endorsement for ANY candidate, it is purely psychological /nt

[Cha]

35. That was alice huffman who

worked for terry mcaulliff in the old dnc before Howard Dean took over and has been making something out of it to be proud of.

[still_one]

4. I doubt it. I also doubt that those who support her realize how many independents

would rather not have another Clinton in the WhiteHouse

[Bucky]

27. independents?

[still_one]

31. you are right, I have no idea what or who "those independents" are /nt

[Raine]

6. I hope her tactics aren't

doing irreparable harm to the Democratic party and it's long association with black voters.

[ursi]

7. now her people are trying to turn Native Americans against Obama

http://nativetimes.com/index.asp?action=displayarticle&article_id=9244

[SaveOurDemocracy]

26. Are You Insane??

"now her people are trying to turn Native Americans against Obama"

WTF did you get that ... from your ass??

I read the entire article you linked to, and no where did I see any connection to her campaign. Unless you're inferring that Native Americans are HER people.


fyi: It was an article written by a Native American and published in the Native American Times

© 2008 Native American Journalists Foundation, Inc.

(Tim Giago, an Oglala Lakota, was born, raised and educated on the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota. He was a Nieman Fellow at Harvard in the Class of 1991. He can be reached at [e-mail])

[Double T]

8. The MLK issue is ALL smoke created by the RW-MSM and .............

nurtured and amplified by misguided obama supporters.

[Mutineer]

13. Okay--first of all?

I'm not an Obama supporter.

And secondly? I speak four languages fluently and have advanced 2 degrees so I think I get subtext and meaning pretty damn well and there is just no finesing the horribly offensive and demeaning remarks that Hillary made against MLK and the people who gave their lives for civil rights reforms in the 60's. Tell me that people who sat behind desks and pushed paper were the real agents of change when I know people who died for the cause? Sorry I didn't misunderstand her words in the least and I'm not fooled by the whitewash (to use a term for it) being done now by her and her surrogates.

[Double T]

24. MLK didn't single handedly change the course of Civil Rights in this nation.

It took MLK, his committed followers and supporters, a willing and supportive President, a willing and supportive political legislative body and MANY willing and supportive American people. GIVE ME A BREAK! Any other explanation on HOW Civil Rights legislation was passed in the USA would be a damn fairy tale!! HRC has done and said NOTHING to diminish MLK or anyone else's importance in the Civil Rights movement and legislation.

[ShadowLiberal]

34. No one can single handedly grant more civil rights to someone, that's the nature of our government

It's the people that decide, yeah we elect officials to run the government, but if you have 75% of the nation screaming "pass civil rights bills to protect " then you had better listen to them if you know what's good for you staying in Washington for much longer.

Martin Luther King and other civil rights leaders of the time are responsible for getting enough people to demand the change, which is what gave leaders in Washington like Johnson who wanted the civil rights act passed the support to get it passed. Sure Johnson probably played a role in getting some of the votes needed to get it through, him and King both had their own roles in getting the civil rights bill passed.

[Hutzpa]

39. you sounded so much like

Bill Clinton....is that you bill


:hi:

[papau]

38. Your university owes you your tuition back if you can't accept that bills are signed into law

by Presidents - and can't note that Hillary praised the work of MLK in getting enough pressure on those politicians including the president to have them get off their asses and legislate a law

"I didn't misunderstand her words" - you have got to be kidding - try reading a transcript - or have it read to you.

[Hutzpa]

41. Twister, twister, twisted, twisted n/t

[Mutineer]

10. And if it is?

So be it. Enough of the inevitable. Maybe this country would be a whole lot better if there were no crowning of "winners" months before the first vote was cast.

[annabanana]

11. bs.. It's media driven and a load of horseshit..

Most of DU has figured this out already...

[ElizabethDC]

14. Precisely. n/t

[ileus]

12. She'll still win 50 states in November...Obama is a pipe dream.

[Kucinich4America]

17. Thanks! I needed a laugh today.

:rofl: You really could do standup with one liners like that. Hillary, win 50 states :rofl: :rofl:

[ileus]

30. I've posted it at least 100 times...maybe more.

[stillcool]

36. no doubt.

[CatWoman]

20. actually

I think Obama is the great(?) black hope.

[comradebillyboy]

25. I am a Hillary supporter, but Obama can win nt

[Raine]

28. Speaking of pipes

what are you smoking to come up with that hallucination? :rofl:

[ileus]

32. there's a meth lab in every other house in my area...LOL

[Hutzpa]

42. How much you getting paid

for making "fairytale" comments like this.

"This whole thing is the biggest fairytale i've ever seen"

[KharmaTrain]

16. Flavor Of The Moment

Lets fast forward a month or so...the primaries are over and a candidate is chosen. Hard fought, but it's over and this issue will be as well. Those who are bent out of shape now will be bent out of shape about some other outrage...the next flavor of the month.

I agree that the current spin has the Clintons looking bad, but anyone who seriously thinks they are racist are biting on the talking points. Be it Senator Clinton, Obama or Edwards...these people have outspoken records in civil rights and are a major contrast to whomever the Repugnican select.

There's a looooooooong way to go until the general election and the only way this "fight" endures if if Democrats themselves allow it to be. We're already seeing how skittish the campaigns are and how quick to point fingers and hop on these "controversies"...always fueled on by the corporate media. My hopes are some of us are wise enough to see through the games here and not get dragged into this mudfight.

The only people who will use this as a major issue to base their vote already did...they were just looking for "justification".

[Proud2BAmurkin]

21. chortle.

That's why she's 14 points ahead.

[ruggerson]

22. You got it backwards, berni

the media tried to harm her by inflating this into a "race war" and Obama's been seriously damaged by the resulting schrapnel.

[CatWoman]

23. You know what makes the irony so delicious?

"we" have been railing about the MSM for doing the same shit to Gore and Kerry, and now "we" are doing it ourselves.

Guess some just wanted to cut out the middleman :nuke:

[OHdem10]

29. Just tonight Pundits were reporting that Hilary still has the

advantage. Will probably be along race because Barak can challenge,
but she still has the advantage.

[leeroysphitz]

33. May all your guesses be right. n/t

[TheFarseer]

37. I disagree

this is exactly what she wanted. If Obama is ever seen as the "black candidate" he's completely finished. People are turned off by race baiting. Obama is being portraid as a race-baiter now because some people have tried to make a big deal out of this. It's mind-boggling how Clinton Inc accuses Obama's campaign of playing the race card in reaction to a statement that Hillary made that the Obama campaign has not commented on. Obama has done a good job of not getting tangled in this up til now but it's hard when the media keeps pushing and pushing. At some point you have to defend yourself as John Kerry found out the hard way. Typical Clinton tactics, do something and then accuse your opponent of doing that exact same thing.

[intheozone]

40. Wrong, the whole thing turned me off Obama. He was

letting the race card allegations continue as long as his poll numbers were going up and only Hillary and Bill was getting the heat for it. Once the heat started to be directed to him and his campaign, only then did he speak out against it. We don't need a President who is willing to let that shit go on to advance his position or deflect his opposition.

[Hutzpa]

43. You are a disgrace to your

own intelligence....

are you kidding, you are actually blaming Obama for not saying anything

inspite of all the insult he has received from the Clintons?

"This whole thing is the biggest fairytale I've ever seen"